p.1 #2 · Ricoh announces development of a Monochrome version of the GRIV
I hope they can include at least one contrast filter.
I was thinking replace the ND in/out with a combined orange+ND2, which would be fine for daylight outdoors. In low light clear with no filter is wanted to maximise sensitivity.
p.1 #7 · Ricoh announces development of a Monochrome version of the GRIV
freaklikeme wrote:
Tiny lens, tiny filters?
Filters don't screw into the lens. You have to attach an adapter to the body of the camera that is a little longer than when the lens is extended and put the filter on that. It doesn't make the camera huge, but it's not going to fit into a pants front pocket any more.
p.1 #8 · Ricoh announces development of a Monochrome version of the GRIV
Driften wrote:
Filters don't screw into the lens. You have to attach an adapter to the body of the camera that is a little longer than when the lens is extended and put the filter on that. It doesn't make the camera huge, but it's not going to fit into a pants front pocket any more.
Ah. that does suck some of the fun out of it. I guess the lens wouldn't collapse properly if it weren't that way.
"The RICOH GR IV Monochrome is equipped with a new monochrome-specific image sensor. It also uses a dedicated lens unit and image control, allowing users to "enjoy the deep and diverse expression that only monochrome photography can offer."
If you look at the rear D pad on the GR Monochrome IV, you will see that the WB white balance key, of the standard GR IV, has been replaced with pictograms of either a histogram or a spectrum and a camera with lens.
If they have been really clever, this could control a filter wheel on the "dedicated lens unit"
p.1 #10 · Ricoh announces development of a Monochrome version of the GRIV
Driften wrote:
Filters don't screw into the lens. You have to attach an adapter to the body of the camera that is a little longer than when the lens is extended and put the filter on that. It doesn't make the camera huge, but it's not going to fit into a pants front pocket any more.
Most of my pants have more than one pocket.
Camera in one, filter in the other (or shirt pocket, etc.). Should be no big deal to pull 'em both out, put 'em together. And, if you're worried about the time to do that, you're gonna be worried about the time to pull it out of your pocket and boot up anyway, so no biggie. If you want it "at the ready" you'll be hand holding it or something other than stashed you your jeans pocket.
Something to mention, sure why not. A deal breaker ... not likely. I'd think most folks would figure out how to manage it just fine.
"The RICOH GR IV Monochrome is equipped with a new monochrome-specific image sensor. It also uses a dedicated lens unit and image control, allowing users to "enjoy the deep and diverse expression that only monochrome photography can offer."
If you look at the rear D pad on the GR Monochrome IV, you will see that the WB white balance key, of the standard GR IV, has been replaced with pictograms of either a histogram or a spectrum and a camera with lens.
If they have been really clever, this could control a filter wheel on the "dedicated lens unit"
That would be fantastic—and quite an amazing bit of engineering!
p.1 #16 · Ricoh announces development of a Monochrome version of the GRIV
I’m also looking forward to the Ricoh Monochrome. I’d like a version with a 50mm lens (equivalent), or at least the current X version with a 40mm. I’m afraid the price will be very high.
p.1 #18 · Ricoh announces development of a Monochrome version of the GRIV
BrandonSi wrote:
The ND filter doesn't hurt the size.. they could just swap it out.
I'm in for one for sure.
An ND is universal were contrast filters for monochrome are a lot of different colors. Sometimes you want red, sometimes orange, sometimes yellow, other times but not often blue or green. With a monochrome sensor you can't just apply the filter in post as that needs the color channel to work off. Besides for longer exposures I would want to keep the ND.
It's not that I would not buy the monochrome edition because I was forced to make the camera less pocketable, but it would make the decision harder. My favorite thing about my GR is slipping it into my front pocket as I leave the house incase I see something to photograph. It's still a small fraction of what it would cost to buy a Leica monochrome model...
p.1 #19 · Ricoh announces development of a Monochrome version of the GRIV
Interesting. It’s so small I could easily carry it alongside another camera. The problem with my Q2M is that I hesitate to only carry a B&W camera, but it’s too large to carry it with another camera all the time.
p.1 #20 · Ricoh announces development of a Monochrome version of the GRIV
Driften wrote:
An ND is universal were contrast filters for monochrome are a lot of different colors. Sometimes you want red, sometimes orange, sometimes yellow, other times but not often blue or green. With a monochrome sensor you can't just apply the filter in post as that needs the color channel to work off. Besides for longer exposures I would want to keep the ND.
It's not that I would not buy the monochrome edition because I was forced to make the camera less pocketable, but it would make the decision harder. My favorite thing about my GR is slipping it into my front pocket as I leave the house incase I see something to photograph. It's still a small fraction of what it would cost to buy a Leica monochrome model......Show more →
Agreed, I guess my thought it's they'd just go for a more general purpose filter (yellow, etc.) and then leave it up to the user for anything beyond that.. but I do think the ND being removed would be probably be seen as more of a negative than a built in yellow filter being a positive, so I imagine you're right.