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Hello all,

I’m heading to Europe for a couple of weeks. I’m looking for a camera bag I can use that would handle a Sony A7R3, 24-70 2.8 and a 16-35 F/4.

I’d love to keep the tripod internal to the bag because my wife appreciates not being smacked with a tripod when I turn. The tripod itself will be the peak design carbon fiber travel tripod.

In terms of bags I’m thinking of either the Peak Design Everyday zip Or the VSGO Black Snipe 20L. One thing I’m concerned about is pick pockets in Paris and Rome. Just about everyone I talk to tells me to be very careful. I’m sure the situation is not as bad as all the stories I hear. Nonetheless, I’d love to get recommendations.

I really like the VSGO bag, but I’m not sure it would be as secure as the peak design.

I’m open to other recommendations and would love to hear what people think.



Oct 16, 2025 at 09:23 AM
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I don’t have a solid solution for you, but I have some thoughts based on my own travel and photoraphy in France and Italy and elsewhere in Europe.

Yes, the situation is not as bad as all the stories you hear. But also, it is a real issue and you should be careful and attentive. (We almost got hit by a theft team in Venice not long ago, but saw what was about to happen and quickly got ourselves out of danger.)

Unfortunately, anyone who looks like a tourist (and it is hard to avoid this if you are a tourist) carrying large bags of stuff can arouse the interest of the bad guys. I think there is some calculation going on on when they look at us that includes how valuable our stuff might be, how easy it might be to fence it, and how difficult/dangerous it might be to try to swipe it.

So the start of a defense is to not advertise that you are carrying a lot of valuable stuff. My approach is to minimize the size of the photography gear I carry. What works for me is to rely on a few small primes and a relatively small camera… and to only carry what I’ll need for that day’s shooting. While it isn’t a perfect solution either, I will leave some stuff behind in a hotel safe if I think I won’t use it. In your case, I might leave that tripod behind unless I was sure that it would be necessary for the day’s (or night’s) shooting. (I write that as a person who typically does use a tripod for much of my photography in the US, but who almost never carries one overseas.)

I also steer clear of “camera bags,” preferring to carry something more generic. In particular I like to use bags with security features designed to discourage thieves — material that isn’t easily cut, straps with metal inside, zippers and openings that can be “locked,” and so forth. There are a number of brands out there, though we use PacSafe bags in various sizes, typically shoulder bags that do not shout “CAMERA INSIDE!”

Beyond that, I’m convinced that being very aware of your surroundings helps a lot, as does keeping a solid hold on bags and gear. I cringe every time I see someone wandering around in a big crowd somewhere with a phone sticking out of the rear pocket or with their camera bags unzipped.

I own and like some of the Peak Designs bags. (I have Sling bags in various sizes, though I don’t use them for European travel.) In my experience, their actual security features are pretty minimal, limited to things like (some) zipper pulls having ways to attach their straps to other parts of the bag. But when it comes to security features they are not on the same level as the bags designed with security in mind. I’m also not a fan of carrying camera gear on my back in cities, FWIW. I’d rather use some sort of shoulder bags that I can access more easily, that I can actually see while I’m carrying it, and that I can cover with my arm when moving through tight, crowded spaces.

Good luck.



Oct 16, 2025 at 10:57 AM
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Look here

https://pacsafe.com/



Oct 16, 2025 at 04:53 PM
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gdanmitchell wrote:
I might leave that tripod behind unless I was sure that it would be necessary for the day’s (or night’s) shooting.


thank you for your well thought response. I'd hate to leave the tripod behind as I love to shoot blue hour. But I have a feeling it might be best to just eschew it all together and shoot handheld during the day / later afternoon.

I'd hate to be inside an old church and have to shoot handheld but that just might be the way to go.

i like the NOMATIC McKinnon Camera Sling 8L. It looks like "not a camera bag" type bag. i'm still torn though. I'll keep researching! Id love to have the weight distribution on my back if i could, but it seems not to be a good idea from what you're saying.

i did look at pacsafe, but i'm not seeing any camera bags on their site.



Oct 16, 2025 at 07:31 PM
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MaluxPhoto wrote:
thank you for your well thought response. I'd hate to leave the tripod behind as I love to shoot blue hour. But I have a feeling it might be best to just eschew it all together and shoot handheld during the day / later afternoon.

I'd hate to be inside an old church and have to shoot handheld but that just might be the way to go.

i like the NOMATIC McKinnon Camera Sling 8L. It looks like "not a camera bag" type bag. i'm still torn though. I'll keep researching! Id love to have the weight distribution on my back
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PacSafe used to make some camera bags, but they stopped, unfortunately. You'd have to see if you could add separate padded inserts to one of their backpacks.

On (rare) occasions I do sometimes pack a smaller "travel tripod" that fits in my regular luggage. I don't carry it around with me, but when I think I might need it I may bring it out. It isn't nearly as solid or large and the rather humongous tripods I use in my other work, but it will do in a pinch.

With contemporary cameras and advanced NR (like the AI noise reduction in current Adobe software) and image-stabilized lens and/or cameras with IBIS, it is actually amazing what you can do with a handheld camera. These days I do a lot of street photography at night with handheld cameras, and I'm not even using f/1.4 lenses. I know tripods have other benefits, too, but you can certainly shoot blue hour handheld from an exposure point of view.

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Fred Amico wrote:
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https://pacsafe.com/


Since you shared the URL for the company, I share the URL for one of the bags (its predecessor, actually) that I use and like quite a bit. It isn't perfect, but on balance it is a good solution for me — though, as I mentioned, I use smaller and lighter gear than the OP when traveling: https://pacsafe.com/products/metrosafe-ls100-anti-theft-crossbody-bag



Oct 16, 2025 at 09:55 PM
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Very nice (if not fashion friendly) option is zipper pockets. Feels much safer in very crowded areas. For a camera bag I'd want to be able to easily swing it to my front in certain situations. Agree smaller and under the arm is good too.


Oct 19, 2025 at 06:21 AM
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I have been known to carry my Canon 77D DSLR and Tamron 18-400 Lens, Flare Shield, batteries, Lens Cleaner, and a few memory cards in a nylon lunch bag ( one like used to carry a 6 pack and a sandwich). Only those in the very poorest areas would be interested in stealing someone's lunch bag, especially after lunch time. The camera and lens with Lens hood (installed backwards) fits in one of these tightly, but it fits. Spare Batteries, lens cleaner kit and memory card pouch fit easily in the sandwich compartment above the camera. These lunch bags cost me about $10 - 15 each at Walmart, and I have several, of different colors and tow sizes to use. My camera and the gear that I listed above are in a red one right now.

Whenever I am out in public, especially in an unfamiliar place, and I need to set my backpack, this lunch bag, or any others with me, down on the ground while shooting, I place my leg and foot through the strap and stand there with both feet on the ground while I'm taking the photos. If they grab the bag, they will be taking me with it, and I can guarantee that I will make this theft very hard for them. For one, I am 220 lbs, so it will be very hard to drag me and my camera bag any distance. But I'll be beating on them until they get it off of me too. I always keep it zipped closed and open just one pocket at a time, and then zip it back up before going to another pocket, etc. When holding my camera, the camera strap is always around my neck and one shoulder too. I have even had it on a wrist strap as well, a few times. Pick pockets will try to brush or bump into you to create a mental diversion so they can get what they are after without you knowing it. "Run and grab" is another method used. Another version of "Run and Grab" is to ride by on a motorcycle, motor scooter, or even a car with an open window and grab purse, camera bag, etc. and it's gone before you can stop them. Stay away from the curb when walking and again, stay aware of what is happening around you. Keep them out of your safe space or prepare for what they might be up to. Make it difficult for them, and most of the time they won't try anything. There are too many other "easy prey" that will be easier for them.

I haven't traveled overseas in the past 25 years, so I don't really know what the conditions are like now. I had been in Germany and the Czech Republic on my last trip to Europe and I followed my own methods while there without encountering any problems. But I have been in several large cities in the USA, even NY City several times since then, and used the same tactics while there with no attempts ever made on me. Always keep yourself fully aware of what is going on around you, and if someone seems to be following you, or getting uncomfortably close, go into a store, police station, or some place safer for a while. Or find a cop and have a chat with him about why you suspect trouble, etc. Don't go down dark alleys or dead ends. Stay where the better dressed people are and out in the open where you can easily keep watch on your surroundings. If you stop to take photos it helps to have someone else with you to keep an eye out for anyone sneaking up or running toward you. Have a list (in a different pocket) of the contents of your bags, any unique identifying marks, serial numbers, and even the value. Have insurance for your gear too. If you do loose something via theft or other, this list will help them identify what is yours, if they should find it and the one who stole it. Don't keep your money in the usual places on you either, definitely not in your back pocket or wallet, well maybe a small amount each day for your convenience, but Travelers Checks for most of it. One time many years ago I needed to take a very large sum of money with me to NY City, and hid most of it in a small fabric bag that was tied to the pull straps of the Western style boots that I was wearing, with this bag comfortably inside the high top of the boot just above my ankle. I carried a smaller amount, not in my wallet, but in the front pocket of my jeans. My wallet in my back pocket only contained the bare essentials, like drivers license, a single credit card, again a few dollars so they wouldn't look further, etc. and I had a copy of all of this in my desk at home, so I can stop the credit card, and get replacements when I get home. A phone call with most travelers check companies will usually get you replacements in 24 hours or less, wherever you are. Have your valuables that you don't want to take with you daily, put in the hotel safe and don't leave them in the hotel room. There are too many master keys and even if the staff doesn't steal anything, someone else with a master key might. Some rooms have small safes. I never trusted them, so never used them. When it's in the hotel safe, they seal and record what goes into and out of the safe, so there is tracking capability and accountability on everything put into the safe. The hotel is responsible for any losses, so they are very careful who has access to the safe, and when.

Enjoy your trip, but keep yourself and companion always aware of your surroundings and try to follow my suggestions. I think you, your companion, as well as your gear will all come back safe and unharmed. Watch what you check in your baggage too. The scan every bag now.

Charley



Oct 19, 2025 at 11:10 PM
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Every time I see these post I am asking if I am living in a not safe country and I am not aware of it…
First of all, with your equipment no one will ever take a look on you.
There are plenty of people with A7RIV/V, Z8, R5 with lenses and tripods visiting Italy, and I never heard of problems.

What could happen, as in any big city in the world, is that your wallet could be stolen, perhaps on the subway or in crowded areas. Just move it from your back pocket to your front pocket for the time being.

I think that the only guesses I can give you are the same whatever place in the world you are heading.
- Do not smell money
- Blend with locals
- Keep your brain connected
- Expand your attention at dusk

Following this rules you can travel safe.

A simple backpack with rear opening will be enough to keep safe your stuff.
Less easy to open than a side/back opening one, thus it is an increased risk for the thieves.

If someone wants to pickpocket you, since it is a risky business, it must be reasonably sure to have a great value from the risk.
If you are wearing only branded (Gucci, etc…) you are a more interesting than if wearing jeans and shirt.
Exotic and very safe bags may attract attention as well: PacSafe, etc.. are like an alarm bell, you want to protect valuable stuff.
If you are carrying a very visible bag, and you are moving like a crazy dummy blocking people, you are surely a good choice.
When the sun goes down, there will be fewer people around, so if you are already being targeted by someone, you become more attractive prey.

For what concerns money, use your CC if possible:it should be accepted everywhere, but AmericanExpress (sorry).
Amex is asking (historically) a too high fee, thus is well accepted in hotels and in some good restaurants, but the stall at the Sunday market might not accept it.
I have an AmEx as well, so I speak by knowledge…

Bring a Mastercard or a Visa and you will pay your coffee as well.
I am living in a small village and I pay almost everything with my CCs.

No need to change more than 100$, usually.

Finally, I apologize for my terrible English and, above all, have a good trip!



Oct 20, 2025 at 01:06 AM
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^^^

A few comments on the above post.

There are parts of it that I agree with: This isn’t just about “international” (read “cities I trave to”) locations. While it isn’t generally a major issue in most places, it is an issue everywhere to some extent — likely even in our own cities. It is more of an issue if you are a traveler and not a local, since you are more likely to be carrying stuff that is interesting to thieves, and less aware of the nuances of your surroundings.

I also agree that one should not become paranoid about this stuff. The first time I traveled internationally I was quite worried, and I probably overdid my security preparations and worried. too much. Don’t fall into that trap. For the most part you can go about your business with teh same ease and security that you accept in your local environment, accepting that some things will be unfamiliar to you. (Hey, that is WHY we travel, right? We want to experience that!)

I also agree about “blending in” to the extent possible. Though the truth is that most of us are unlikely to be taken for locals in most places. People know you aren’t “from here.” How? It is a combination of things I’ve never quite totally figured out, but it is real. That aside, doing stuff that draws attention to yourself may not be a great idea. Be low key, non-flashy, just another face to the extent that this works for yo. That’s one reason to be a bit cautious about flashing big expensive photo gear, and other expensive stuff. Maybe instead of a brightly colored bag, you get that PacSafe bag in black.(BTW, using something like that doesn’t necessarily say “I have something you want inside.” It also says, “I’m not an easy mark.” :-) )

At the same time, some reasonable precautions (largely similar to what I take when visiting US cities or even in some local areas) make sense. It is mostly the usual advice: Don’t carry more cash than you need, don’t leave a phone hanging out of our pocket. Don’t be an obnoxious loudmouth, Keep your possessions secure. Without becoming paranoid, develop habits about staying aware of your surroundings. Exercise a bit more caution when you are in a very busy, crowded, touristy situation. Consider downsizing your photo gear for travel.

I’ve spent a fair amount of time traveling with camera gear internationally. On a day to day basis I am not the least bit worried and I don’t walk around being paranoid. I travel on foot. I take public transit. I talk to locals whenever the opportunity arises. (I could tell great stories about hanging with locals. :-) ) I don’t go with tour groups.

Do I walk around scared that I’m going to get ripped off? No? Have I been in situations where I was about to be? Yes.

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Oct 20, 2025 at 09:29 AM
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I agree.

It's not a question of location; the suggestions apply everywhere, from New York to Marrakech, Tokyo, Edinburgh, Istanbul, or...
What I mean is that US/UK/Northern Europe tourists are often too easily recognizable.

This summer, at Cape Sunion in Greece there was a girl dressed like an Ancient Greek woman with a golden laurel wreath on his head.

Everyone else (we were clearly tourists, anyway) was wearing shorts and T-shirts or light dresses.
Guess where she was coming from?

It's clearly an exaggeration, but the same applies to people wearing shorts and Hawaiian shirts when everyone else is wearing jeans and white/blue/black T-shirts.
Try not to be so easy to recognize, and this is enough 90% of the times.

Brand new backpack smells money (and fear).
If you are using an old dusty backpack, you surely bring less attention.
I keep my 8 years old F-Stop Guru with the half-erased writing, the elastic bands of the nets that no longer hold, on purpose.
It might seems professional, but is too old to hold really valuable stuff, brand new, moreover.

Clearly it is difficult to blend if you are for just one day in the southern Morocco in the Chigaga Erg, and in this case you have to trust your guide,: no way, you are a tourist.

We always shoot with A7rV, Z8, R5 cameras with their beautiful 24-120 and 24-70 zoom lenses and lens hoods, sometimes even hanging from our shoulders with Peak Design slings, and no one even looks at us.

Again, people in that "business" aren't stupid and know that a camera with a stolen serial number is worth almost nothing on the market.
If it breaks, no one will repair it, you can't resell it because there are registers with stolen serial numbers, etc.
I'd be more worried if I had a valuable watch or gold jewelry.

Obviously, you have to be careful, but as mentioned above, this would be the same anywhere in the world.

Probably the biggest robbery you will definitely experience (and the same goes for us) will be the bill at some restaurant!



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Leave the 16-35 and the tripod at home - 24-70 should cover you. If you must take a tripod, use a tabletop 'pod like the RRS pocket pod. As for bags, I have a small black Billingham that I use for either my Sony A1 with 24-70 or a Leica M11 kit with 3 M primes. Very rare that I ever need more than that. This is the setup I took to India earlier this year (with the Sony), and to several places in the U.S. (with the Leica) and it was perfect - low visibility and highly functional.


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gdanmitchell wrote:
People know you aren’t “from here.” How? It is a combination of things I’ve never quite totally figured out, but it is real.



I think it's the eyes and pace of movement. Taking the scene in rather than just buzzing through it to get somewhere.




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Superscroll wrote:
I think it's the eyes and pace of movement. Taking the scene in rather than just buzzing through it to get somewhere.



I think that is at least part of it. I also think that we are attuned to subtle differences in things like clothing, posture, gestures, etc. that different from culture to culture.

That being said, I think that the cues are perhaps weaker than they once were now that so much culture has been internationalized, at least in the so-called first world. It seems to me that people used to be more easily distinguishable in those ways, but today it isn’t as clear cut.

It is perhaps also, to some extent, where we go in cities. I live in the San Francisco Bay Area, and I hardly ever would go to the places that most tourists head to first! And most tourists don’t hang out much in places where the locals go.

Recently we were in Porto, Portugal, staying in that busy old “historical” district where, yes, all the tourists are. One day we decided to take a very long walk out of that area to a distant (if you are walking) market that locals go to. We walked miles/kilometers through areas that were nothing at all like the tourist area and — no surprise — we literally saw no other obvious tourists!

Though, as you point out, the way we occupy space is different when we are tourists than in the rest of our lives.



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Thieves can be anywhere but the more you blend in the less likely a target you are. I have traveled considerably in the US and a reasonable amount of time in Europe. I try and act the same everywhere and dress as close as I can to the locals. After that just don't be too concerned as while anything could happen statiscally you should be fine. In most places I am more likely to have a camera on a strap with it slung to the front than carry a camera bag unless I am on my way somewhere where I know I will need more.


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Pickpockets ......... pick pockets. Be more worried about your wallet and mobile phone. I travel worldwide with my Leica gear, Sony gear and cine gear and I've never encountered a single concern in Italy or elsewhere. As Leo stated, there are tourists and visitors everywhere constantly. As far as tripods go, many places don't allow them because they are a trip hazard in congested places. In Rome there's always a doorway or Corinthian column to lean against. Just don't leave your gear alone as I would worry more about other visitors than locals.


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Thieves are indeed a problem, but having said that, I have traveled a lot within the US and many times in Europe without having anything stolen. In addition to the great advice offered already, be aware of people who are trying to divert your attention or who are trying to get you to use your hands, such as signing a petition.

One time my husband and I were targeted by a group of three older normal-looking women near a little pond in Geneva. It was a quiet spot with few people around. One woman was feeding bread to geese and she started talking to us. As she got our attention, another woman approached and both ended up standing far to close to us. They had another lady watching and I guess was the lookout, who was not quite as close. All the while, they seemed very friendly and talked about how nice the geese were to see, but were obviously a pickpocket ring. Once they got too close to us, we realized what was going on and quickly left.

In general, use the normal precautions as thieves are everywhere - we certainly have no shortage of them in the US. And, be aware of the current scams that may be happening. Don't stand out or draw attention to yourself. As an American, we are pretty easy to identify as our clothing and shoes can be a little different from what Europeans wear. Even on safari in Africa, I spotted an American simply by the soles on his shoes.



Oct 21, 2025 at 11:09 AM
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LeoPizzo wrote:
Every time I see these post I am asking if I am living in a not safe country and I am not aware of it…
First of all, with your equipment no one will ever take a look on you.
There are plenty of people with A7RIV/V, Z8, R5 with lenses and tripods visiting Italy, and I never heard of problems.


I really hope my post wasn't offensive. I didn't mean it that way at all. Apologies if it came across that way. I was trying to process through the noise / stories I was getting from people saying "oh, be careful etc etc etc." I appreciate everyone's advice.

It seems what I really need to do here is just think more about the small items: phone / wallet / etc like everyone is saying and not look like a complete total tourist (I think my wife and i can manage that...probably ).

By the way, I thought about a small sling (like the one from nomatic), but i wonder if i'll get shoulder fatigue like i do with a messenger bag. I really want a backpack because we'll be walking around all day and i want it to not have to be switching shoulders every so often.

I've narrowed down to either the VSGO black snipe or the everyday backpack 20L). I'm learning more towards the peak design because it doesn't look like something out of a sci-fi show and because it seems slimmer.

I really, really appreciate everyone's feedback and the time you've all taken to point me in the right direction.



Oct 21, 2025 at 09:32 PM
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I have an old beat up Osprey backpack that I use to carry my gear as well as things like a jacket, sunscreen, water, wallet, passport etc… I have my gear insured which allows me to travel in peace.

My best advice is most thieves are opportunist…don’t behave like an opportunity.



Oct 21, 2025 at 11:45 PM
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Malux, no problems, and I apologize if I have been too rude.
It is normal to inform yourself Han you are going so far from home and you have no idea of what you can find once you are there.
The same happened to me when I went to NY for the first time.

I hope I have been able to clarify the situation and allow you to really enjoy your trip.
Paris and Rome really worth, and I hope you will I love with them as it happened to us the first time we visited!

If you need some special advices, please come back to me and I’lll be happy to guess you, up to my knowledge and possibilities!



Oct 21, 2025 at 11:55 PM
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MaluxPhoto wrote:
I really hope my post wasn't offensive. I didn't mean it that way at all. Apologies if it came across that way. I was trying to process through the noise / stories I was getting from people saying "oh, be careful etc etc etc." I appreciate everyone's advice.


It shouldn’t offend. There is so much stuff written about how much you should be concerned that it is easy to imagine international travel being a daring adventure fighting off bandits and robbers!

There are various reasons that it comes up so much. Except for those who do it all the time, travel takes us out of our familiar world, and we don’t have instincts for things — so we naturally worry and we look to others with more experience for advice.

And there are some writing about travel and doing video stuff on the subject who, in an attempt to make everything exciting and on the edge, play up the small risks to an unrealistic level. And some of them who are getting affiliate income from selling stuff would really like you to click their links and buy all kinds of expensive stuff you may or may not need.

And, of course, there are those who really have had problems with thefts while traveling. (I earlier recounted a close call we had a couple of years ago in Venice, for example.) When it happens, and I know people to whom it has happened, it can be quite disruptive and upsetting. So best to be somewhat cautious without letting fear dominate.

So, your concerns — especially if you are a new traveler — are not coming from paranoia, though you’ll likely find out that things aren’t so scary if you just take basic, normal precautions.

It seems what I really need to do here is just think more about the small items: phone / wallet / etc like everyone is saying and not look like a complete total tourist (I think my wife and i can manage that...probably ).

That’s a pretty good — and concise — summary of major goals. Not being overly obvious, remaining aware of your surroundings, being careful with small and valuable items are all good starting points.

By the way, I thought about a small sling (like the one from nomatic), but i wonder if i'll get shoulder fatigue like i do with a messenger bag. I really want a backpack because we'll be walking around all day and i want it to not have to be switching shoulders every so often.

Have you thought of using both? The backpack could well be the most useful when you are in transit — say on a train or plane, for example. Then when you actually go out on daily adventures you could lighten up and just use the sling, leaving behind gear that you might not need each day. (You can reduce the impact of this on packing but filling up that sling bag with socks and stuff and putting it inside your luggage.)

I've narrowed down to either the VSGO black snipe or the everyday backpack 20L). I'm learning more towards the peak design because it doesn't look like something out of a sci-fi show and because it seems slimmer.

I own several of the Peak Designs Sling bags in different sizes, and I have used them for US and international travel. I have not used their backpacks, though I’ve spent time handling and inspecting them at their San Francisco store. The PD gear is good stuff and well made. Sometimes it can be a bit 0ver-designed, in my opinion — perhaps a bit too many gadgety bits and pieces and extra zipper access ports and so on. My personal preference is to keep it a bit simpler, but lots of people like the PD packs FOR those extra features.

I have no experience with the other brand.

One other difference… for travel I use a much smaller camera system than I use for “regular” photography. For the latter I use a large full frame system with big zoom lenses and a tripod. For travel I use a much smaller Fujifilm APS-C system with (typically) only three smallish primes. At first it can be hard to convince yourself that the smaller system will work, but in practice it (or something similar) can work really well, and simplifying and downsizing means that the camera gear is less of a drag on the rest of the experience. And in quite a few cases going small and light for vtravel and urban/street photography can actually lead to better photographs.

I really, really appreciate everyone's feedback and the time you've all taken to point me in the right direction.

:-)



Oct 22, 2025 at 09:43 AM
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