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I currently have an R6II, an R7 and 3 RF lenses I plan on taking on vacation with me outside the U.S.A. The R7 and two of those lenses look brand new because I haven't used them except for testing them out in my back yard when I first got them a few months ago.

I'm concerned that when I return from the overseas trip, U.S. Customs might think I purchased them overseas and that I'm trying to avoid paying taxes/tariffs on them. I have read that some folks are buying luxury items overseas and flying back into the U.S. with them.

Bringing along the purchase receipt of these items doesn't seem like a foolproof idea. What other options would you suggest (other than "don't travel", "stop worrying so much and just use your equipment", "just Google it", or any other rude, useless, immature response)?



Aug 29, 2025 at 02:52 PM
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While noting that the world has changed since January 2025, I’ve traveled out of and back into the United States with camera gear for years without problems.

I suppose that to be extra secure you might bring copies of those receipts (of have them online where you can find them) and/or bring evidence of insurance on the gear.



Aug 29, 2025 at 03:11 PM
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p.1 #3 · General Question About Travel & Tariffs


Officially, there’s a way to register gear you take out of the country with customs to prevent your potential problems, the ATA Carnet. When I traveled in and out of Holland with professional audio recording gear many years ago, I carried those, but I’ve never used it since.


Aug 29, 2025 at 03:41 PM
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johnvanr wrote:
Officially, there’s a way to register gear you take out of the country with customs to prevent your potential problems, the ATA Carnet. When I traveled in and out of Holland with professional audio recording gear many years ago, I carried those, but I’ve never used it since.


I'm sorry I don't have a link, but I _think_ there was a discussion of that option somewhere here in the past month or two... and IIRC the conclusion was that most people won't want to do that.

Sorry, that's all I got...



Aug 29, 2025 at 06:37 PM
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I think the answer to this question falls into the YMMV category. One person may have a totally different experience than another person, and no rhyme or reason for it.

I've traveled internationally multiple times this year with camera gear (e.g. Canon, Fuji), and had no issues with US customs when returning. Maybe it's because I have Global Entry? Maybe I just got lucky? Maybe it's just not an issue? Who knows.

Are you carrying this gear as a carry-on or in checked baggage? If carry-on, they don't require a scan of your bag upon return.



Aug 29, 2025 at 06:38 PM
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Ming-Tzu wrote:
I think the answer to this question falls into the YMMV category. One person may have a totally different experience than another person, and no rhyme or reason for it.

I've traveled internationally multiple times this year with camera gear (e.g. Canon, Fuji), and had no issues with US customs when returning. Maybe it's because I have Global Entry? Maybe I just got lucky? Maybe it's just not an issue? Who knows.

Are you carrying this gear as a carry-on or in checked baggage? If carry-on, they don't require a scan of your bag upon return.


It will be carry on. If someone is going to get hassled, most likely it will be me! 😀 Last two trips I've taken outside the U.S., (Iceland in November and Spain in March), I've been singled out both times and subjected to enhanced searches. Iceland almost didn't let me leave because they were 100% convinced I "looked suspicious", and upon entry into the U.S. from Spain I was singled out by ICE from a crowd of several hundred people. Despite showing my U.S. passport, Florida DL, and insisting I was born in the U.S.A. as well as were my parents and grandparents, ICE agent continued interrogating me until his supervisor believed me. These were only the last two times. I have lots of stories of previous encounters.

So, not being the luckiest person on the planet, I'd like to play it as safe as possible and have "all my ducks in a row", meaning having all the documents anyone can potentially ask for.



Aug 29, 2025 at 07:23 PM
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It will be carry on. If someone is going to get hassled, most likely it will be me! 😀 Last two trips I've taken outside the U.S., (Iceland in November and Spain in March), I've been singled out both times and subjected to enhanced searches. Iceland almost didn't let me leave because they were 100% convinced I "looked suspicious", and upon entry into the U.S. from Spain I was singled out by ICE from a crowd of several hundred people. Despite showing my U.S. passport, Florida DL, and insisting I was born in the U.S.A. as well as were my
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I don't know about your airport, but Los Angeles International (LAX) uses a face recognition system. No declaration to fill. Just walk through and that's it. I got sent to secondary coming back from my last trip with some new flashy luggage. No questions about them from both CBP officers at the checkpoint and secondary.

I have a couple posts here:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1897700/1#16826798

TBH there's probably aren't enough manpower and time to question and search everyone with nice new things.

If you keep getting pulled aside coming back from abroad, then try getting a redress number. I have gotten extra screening each time for the past 8 years. Just very recently got a redress number... will see if it works when I come back from a destination wedding shoot in October.








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You can travel to Europe or presumably back via ship. Might be some chance customs is more laid back or business like


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snegron7 wrote:
Bringing along the purchase receipt of these items doesn't seem like a foolproof idea.


And what evidence do you have of that



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What I usually do is complete a 'Certificate of Registration for Personal Effects Taken Abroad' which can be completed at customs at the airport before departure. The form you need to complete is CBP Form 4457.
All you need is to present the item/s to a CBP officer, and they will check the serial number and stamp the form for you. This process has never taken more than 10-15 mins.
Carry this form and a proof of purchase as insurance and you should have no problems re-entering with your gear. The instructions on the back of the form are pretty straightforward.



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Dan1313 wrote:
What I usually do is complete a 'Certificate of Registration for Personal Effects Taken Abroad' which can be completed at customs at the airport before departure. The form you need to complete is CBP Form 4457.
All you need is to present the item/s to a CBP officer, and they will check the serial number and stamp the form for you. This process has never taken more than 10-15 mins.
Carry this form and a proof of purchase as insurance and you should have no problems re-entering with your gear. The instructions on the back of the form are pretty straightforward.


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This is what you want to do if you think carrying the receipts alone will be insufficient (though I don't know why that would be the case).

The carnet mentioned earlier requires you putting money down in form of a bond/guarantee, in addition to the fee to process the carnet application. And the carnet requires traveling with exactly what is listed on it or you risk forfeiting the bond. For the average photographer, based on the advice I received, it's not the right solution, at least for entering the USA, Canada and probably most of Europe. But other countries might be more picky.

If you're getting hassled, if there was any interest whatsoever in your gear, I think it would be more about what you photographed and why, rather than the gear itself, which is not overly expensive. At the worst you'd pay 15% duty (assuming it's all made in Japan). I would worry more about examination of the contents of your phone/laptop, etc. Not to imply you have anything that would be of concern, rather, just the simple matter of your privacy.



Aug 30, 2025 at 04:45 AM
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rscheffler wrote:
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This is what you want to do if you think carrying the receipts alone will be insufficient (though I don't know why that would be the case).

The carnet mentioned earlier requires you putting money down in form of a bond/guarantee, in addition to the fee to process the carnet application. And the carnet requires traveling with exactly what is listed on it or you risk forfeiting the bond. For the average photographer, based on the advice I received, it's not the right solution, at least for entering the USA, Canada and probably most of Europe. But other countries might be
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Good information here. I wonder if you posted the original message I recalled but could not identify about the “carnet?”

I also agree that it is wise to not have stuff on your electronic devices that could make your life more difficult in the unlikely case that you get tagged for special attention. If you have political imagery or writing on your devices, I’d remove it. If you ever post anything on social media that is political or if you even follow accounts that are, I’d strip those social media apps and their data from your devices.

I never used to be at all concerned about this stuff, but these days a degree of paranoia is not unreasonable.

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Regarding the redress number process, a person I know will no longer travel by air in the current political climate because this person apparently shares a name with others including someone who was convicted of a felony. This person, who is a native born American citizen, also has brown skin…

I suggested the redress process to this person and the reply was that in the current climate even something like applying for a redress number can result in being targeted.


Sigh…



Aug 30, 2025 at 09:28 AM
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Nobody cares about a small bundle of consumer grade photo gear carried by a tourist. Not worth the hassle of examination, valuation and collection. Arriving with an R1 or A1-II in box might raise some questions but a single item again is not worth the hassle. In olden days travelers to HK would bring back heavily discounted photo gear and it was often taxed. But today there are much bigger fish to catch and retailers and manufacturers no longer complain about overseas/grey market purchases by single individuals.


Aug 30, 2025 at 09:58 AM
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gdanmitchell wrote:
I'm sorry I don't have a link, but I _think_ there was a discussion of that option somewhere here in the past month or two... and IIRC the conclusion was that most people won't want to do that.

Sorry, that's all I got...


Yup. I mentioned the same thing in that thread.



Aug 30, 2025 at 10:58 AM
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rancherpix wrote:
Nobody cares about a small bundle of consumer grade photo gear carried by a tourist. Not worth the hassle of examination, valuation and collection. Arriving with an R1 or A1-II in box might raise some questions but a single item again is not worth the hassle. In olden days travelers to HK would bring back heavily discounted photo gear and it was often taxed. But today there are much bigger fish to catch and retailers and manufacturers no longer complain about overseas/grey market purchases by single individuals.



Going about life with a "devil may care", cavalier mindset has never worked for me. Unfortunately, I'm not in "the big boys league" yet in terms of gear ownership. I can't afford an R1 with RF 1.2 glass, nor special edition Leicas to match my Patek Philippe watch collection. In my case, my R6II, R7, RF 16-28mm f2.8, RF 24-240 and Tamron RF 11-20mm f2.8 were a substantial chunk of money for my peasant bank account. So, it would actually hurt me if my gear were confiscated soley to satisfy the whim of some bitter government employee who might be having a bad day. Also, ad I mentioned before, I am more likely to be singled out and harassed based on my appearance (I have a darker shade of skin color that is being targeted more at this time). And yes, I live with it every day here in Florida. In my "what if" scenario, I'll probably be singled out yet again by ICE (as I have been in the recent past) and given the 3rd degree upon arriving from my European vacation. No matter how kind and curtious I behave, I'm at the mercy of someone who might be having a bad day. My gear could be confiscated just to mess with me. I would rather be safe than sorry, so having the proper documentation deemed acceptable by the Federal government is essential for me.



Aug 30, 2025 at 11:21 AM
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snegron7 wrote:
I currently have an R6II, an R7 and 3 RF lenses I plan on taking on vacation with me outside the U.S.A. The R7 and two of those lenses look brand new because I haven't used them except for testing them out in my back yard when I first got them a few months ago.

I'm concerned that when I return from the overseas trip, U.S. Customs might think I purchased them overseas and that I'm trying to avoid paying taxes/tariffs on them. I have read that some folks are buying luxury items overseas and flying back into the U.S.
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I just did with drones into Canada and Leica gear.

I said I had nothing to declare and I was good to go. I wouldn’t worry about it- Especially if you aren’t doing anything wrong.



Aug 30, 2025 at 12:05 PM
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snegron7 wrote:
Going about life with a "devil may care", cavalier mindset has never worked for me. Unfortunately, I'm not in "the big boys league" yet in terms of gear ownership. I can't afford an R1 with RF 1.2 glass, nor special edition Leicas to match my Patek Philippe watch collection. In my case, my R6II, R7, RF 16-28mm f2.8, RF 24-240 and Tamron RF 11-20mm f2.8 were a substantial chunk of money for my peasant bank account. So, it would actually hurt me if my gear were confiscated soley to satisfy the whim of some bitter government employee who might be
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There's no need to worry unless you do not have proper identification or you have open warrants. As a surfer who travels with large diverse groups of scruffy men, I don't think there's anyone who gets hassled more at border crossings than us. The authorities always assume surfers are going to be carrying some sort of drugs or paraphernalia, and at least one of us usually gets pulled into secondary. We have massive coffins filled with surfboards and it's common for smugglers to hide cocaine inside the foam and seal it with resin/fiberglass. From being strip-searched by the federales in remote Baja locations to being held for hours in Asia due to mini bags of creatine that looks like cocaine, it's always expected that one of us is going to get pulled aside. We are healthy athletes who travel with a lot of supplements/protein powder/creatine that we individually package in small ziplocks. It's never the 40k worth of camera gear, water housings, drones, etc that triggers the interrogations, but rather the supplements/pills that appear as drugs, or our surfboards that often get "ding repaired" while on the road. We have the whole range of skin colors in our groups and they never single us out by skin color. In fact, I have to say of all my travels I have been hassled most entering Canada from the US on our way to Whistler, BC. They have pulled me out of our group twice because I was running a very long shaggy beard and they thought I looked shady. They spend a couple hours diving into my assets, bank accounts, driving history, etc and when they find no dirt they let me go and say "have fun in Whistler". It's a hassle because it delays our plans but I've always thought they are doing it right and that's how border security should be. Also, we carry more gear than 99.9% of photographers and we've never been called out for our gear other than for bomb inspection of some lenses. Not once has anyone ever had to prove the gear is theirs, nor does anyone register their gear or carry receipts. Just be prepared with the proper documentation/ID and you will be fine. Any skin color in any Country is fair game. If you do get detained it's best to stay cool and cooperate or it will usually lengthen your interrogation. Watch this lady in Australia lose her temper as an example, they held for for a few hours:

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Aug 30, 2025 at 01:10 PM
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RustyRus wrote:
I just did with drones into Canada and Leica gear.

I said I had nothing to declare and I was good to go.


That is exactly the correct response to the question: 'what do you have to declare?' (with respect to your equipment).

This question always refers to purchases made while outside your country of residence when returning home, or when entering a country you're visiting, anything of value you will leave in that country (i.e. gift or sell to someone).

It does not refer to your personal effects that will travel with you for the entire trip. Therefore there is never reason to even mention your photo gear unless the questioning eventually leads specifically to it. In the OP's case, equipment that originated in the USA and is returning back to it. But yes, for the OP, it sounds like a good idea to get that extra form filled out prior to their next trip. And when you go to get the form done, bring the receipts just in case they ask. In the past, here in Canada, for our equivalent form, they never asked for receipts. Possession of the equipment in Canada when presented to complete the form was deemed sufficient. But back in May this year, when I wanted to add new equipment to a new form, for the first time ever in decades of getting these forms, the agent asked to see receipts, which I did not have with me. In the end it wasn't an issue when I returned home because the gear was not questioned, which is the case the vast majority of the time.

To add to artsupreme's comment about keeping your cool: keep your answers short and concise. Preferably yes or no. To volunteer more info than necessary can come across as a rehearsed response which will just make the agent more suspicious. Make them earn their pay thinking of what questions to ask rather than giving them an easy opening to dig into.

artsupreme wrote:
In fact, I have to say of all my travels I have been hassled most entering Canada from the US on our way to Whistler, BC.


Well, no wonder you were hassled. Why would a surfer be going to Whistler? That is indeed very suspicious!



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rscheffler wrote:
Well, no wonder you were hassled. Why would a surfer be going to Whistler? That is indeed very suspicious!


I had to chuckle at this! No disrespect but a great analogy! Good humor. YES Retain one's composure at all times in travels with officials. They are trained to detect anxiety in responses regardless of whether you are correct or hiding something and I am NOT saying anybody here is. Nature of our times.

I believe this is thee correct statement regardless of my chuckle and it has all to do with about a water surfer at Whistler. But both can require a "board"? And YES "The Ugly American" does still exist outside our shores and to our neighbors N&S of us.
All it takes in today's media is 1 "ah crap!" to erase all those "atta boys!" and instantly become a "somebody derangment syndrome" to the media!

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rscheffler wrote:
Well, no wonder you were hassled. Why would a surfer be going to Whistler? That is indeed very suspicious!


Well, I guess you could say we "snow surf" (aka snowboard) at Whistler during the winter months. We still travel with massive board bags but instead of surfboards they contain snowboards. Winter photo below of yours truly wearing a ThinkTank backpack full of gear headed down to my next shooting location during a snowboard shoot. You can see the shaggy beard that the Canadian customs agents love to pull into secondary for interrogations. And in the summer months we go to Whistler to ride the best bike park in the world. I've had my fair share of injuries but if you are into anything two-wheels then Whistler is a must. More photos of yours truly on the bike:




























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