Fursan wrote:
I know of the following components of a recipe having an effect on RAF file.
- White balance
- Clarity ( only processing time ) not the RAF file.
- DR ( dynamic range )
White balance is easily solved on import.
If anyone knows of other xt menu components that affect a RAF file, please educate me.
Kind regards.
If you are shooting both jpg and RAW files simultaneously, the RAW file should be unaffected by the jpg recipe or simulation that you are using. If you are only shooting jpg files (recipes or simulations), then you don't have a RAW file to work from.
Unless perhaps the Fuji camera settings are altered by the use of a recipe? E.g., a Landscape setting that uses a smaller aperture?
Chiron, Nick...
Thank you for your inputs.
I do believe that white balance ( color temperature ) does have an effect. I might be very mistaken.
However I have come across a situation where I changed from auto wb to something varying for each capture. The RAF was unusable. I should have kept the images.
I shall try again tomorrow .
Fursan wrote:
I know of the following components of a recipe having an effect on RAF file.
- White balance
- Clarity ( only processing time ) not the RAF file.
- DR ( dynamic range )
White balance is easily solved on import.
If anyone knows of other xt menu components that affect a RAF file, please educate me.
Kind regards.
You got the 3 that will affect the raw file; and as you indicated clarity only really affects processing time in camera.
However, the raw is tagged with the as-shot jpeg settings, and if you have a smart converter it *can* be set to read and apply those. In C1 it's the import toggle "Include Existing Adjustments," and if you check that you will see all of your selected images adjust in the preview to whatever the jpeg settings were; IOW a color image will change to B&W if you used a Fuji Acros film emulation when shooting that particular frame.
AZ Photo wrote:
How does White Balance affect the raw file (apart from the embedded preview)?
It will import "as shot" which might be considerably "wrong" when not tied to a full JPEG recipe, meaning you have to do extra work to "fix" the WB on the RAW.
AZ Photo wrote:
How does White Balance affect the raw file (apart from the embedded preview)?
Mainly, WB will affect net exposure. When it's set close to a "normal" WB, the exposure differences are usually trivial and can be easily tweaked to taste in post. However when extreme, either super cold or warm, it can be enough of an effect to blow (or clip) a channel if then normalized in post.
RoamingScott wrote:
It will import "as shot" which might be considerably "wrong" when not tied to a full JPEG recipe, meaning you have to do extra work to "fix" the WB on the RAW.
It's not irreparable but creates more work.
Surely it will only import "as shot" when your raw converter uses metadata from the embedded preview?
In that case all image quality metadata affect the raw file.
On Canon, I've gotten different results changing the contrast in camera vs low contrast adjusted in DPP, the Canon processor that keeps the camera settings. In theory you'd think they'd be the same, but they're not
Also if you set to monochrome it affects the photos left on card, in raw. So it seems to affect things
Why do you insist on posting completely irrelevant Canon anecdotes with systems you don’t own and don’t use?
Your monochrome example in particular is completely pointless in this conversation.
AmbientMike wrote:
On Canon, I've gotten different results changing the contrast in camera vs low contrast adjusted in DPP, the Canon processor that keeps the camera settings.
Also if you set to monochrome it affects the photos left on card, in raw. So it seems to affect things
Related to the topic of the thread, if you are shooting raw all of the original captured image data is in the real file, regardless. Of course, another useful option is to just shoot plain old raw files without setting Fujifilm profiles on the camera, and then selecting the equivalent profiles in post, for example in ACR.
One plus of that you don’t have to worry about or commit to any particular profile at the time of exposure, whether or not you have one in mind at that point. Just capture the image and deal with it later.
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On an unrelated subject, I am perplexed by one forum participant’s repeated, ongoing posts about (almost always) old Canon gear in Fujifilm forum threads.
One might almost suspect he does’t have any Fujifilm gear, has not had any, and isn’t planning on getting any.
RoamingScott wrote:
WB and DR200/400 will affect the RAW (RAW will be underexposed).
I don't understand in what way WB setting will impact RAW. I get the impact of DR200/400 because under those modes the camera underexposes to preserve the highlights and then lifts shadows. But WB shouldn't impact the RAW in anyway.
gdanmitchell wrote:
Related to the topic of the thread, if you are shooting raw all of the original captured image data is in the real file, regardless. Of course, another useful option is to just shoot plain old raw files without setting Fujifilm profiles on the camera, and then selecting the equivalent profiles in post, for example in ACR.
One plus of that you don’t have to worry about or commit to any particular profile at the time of exposure, whether or not you have one in mind at that point. Just capture the image and deal with it later.
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On an unrelated subject, I am perplexed by one forum participant’s repeated, ongoing posts about (almost always) old Canon gear in Fujifilm forum threads.
One might almost suspect he does’t have any Fujifilm gear, has not had any, and isn’t planning on getting any.
You still have to select a film emulation in all Fuji cameras if shooting raw only even if it’s just “Std.” There is no option for “none.” But yes, you can choose any you want or prefer after that in the raw converter during post.
curious80 wrote:
I don't understand in what way WB setting will impact RAW. I get the impact of DR200/400 because under those modes the camera underexposes to preserve the highlights and then lifts shadows. But WB shouldn't impact the RAW in anyway.
WB doesn't impact the RAW; it impacts the interpretation of the raw in your raw converter. For example, you take a shot in daylight, whereas your WB is ( for some inexplicable reason, and purely for example) set to 3000. Then, upon converting from raw in an app that reads this WB, you should see some rather unexpectedly bluish scene.
RoamingScott wrote:
You simply cannot shoot a Fuji in RAW without it defaulting to a profile in camera. I would expect Mike not to know that, but Dan…
You caught me in a carelessly worded post.
In fact, we have no choice but to pick something from the list in the menus. I’ve always just left it on the first one — didn’t check before writing this, but I think it may be Provia? Maybe “standard?” Maybe some combo of the two? (Camera is in the other room, so I can’t immediately check.)
But I never record jpg images on my Fujiflm cameras. (OK, I’ve done it a few times just to see how that works on these cameras or to test someone’s claims about the jpg files.) I always shoot raw and work with my own custom presets as starting points for work in post. I
