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 p.1 #7 · Leica, Sony and Voigtlander lenses - pairing lenses with camera based on size | |
Yogifi wrote:
It makes sense, if going the Leica route eventually, why get any manual focus lenses for Sony. But then if I only get the smaller lenses for Leica, I'll never have the APOs as an option. Whereas maybe sometimes I'd rather not carry a very expensive camera body but still want high quality.
With the AF lenses for Sony, I'm mostly focussed on the compact options.
I agree it changes signficantly if I was carrying around the GMs but I think there's a difference in the quality between the APOs and the compact primes on Sony.
Though Phillip Reeves keeps saying the Sigma f2 (35 and 50) are really close to the APO-Lanthars.
I am getting those and I had some experience with the 50 APO so if that's the case then I think it makes sense to leave the manual focus for Sony alone.
Maybe just the 28mm APO while I wait, when it releases - or the Nokton. There aren't that many 28mm options on Sony that aren't part of a Zoom. But the Sigma 35mm f2 is apparently rather wide so maybe also unnecessary....Show more →
I have owned a Leica M10 twice and used the Leica 16-21 f/4 WATE, Leica 21 f/3.4 SEM, 28 f/1.4 lux Asph, 28 f/2 cron Asph v1., 35 f/1.4 lux Asph FLE, 50 f/2 APO, 50 f/1.4 lux Asph v.1, and 90 f/2 APO cron; Voigtlander 28 f/2 Ultron v. 2, 35 f/1.7; 75 f/1.5 Zeiss ZM 35 f/1.4 & Zeiss ZM 85 f/4. I shot Leica M for about 5 years.
I have shot MF lenses on Sony mirrorless for about 10 years. I currently own a Sony A7r V, but have also used an A7 II, A7r II, and A7s extensively and I have used these cameras with the following Sony E mount lenses: Voigtlander 21 f/1.4, 28 f/1.5, 40 f/1.2, & 50 f/2 APO; Zeiss Loxia 85 f/2.4. I have used the following Sony E mount lenses but don't have them any longer: Laowa 15 f/2 (no contacts, however), Voigtlander 15 f/4.5, 50 f/1.2, 65 f/2 APO, and 110 f/2.5 APO; Zeiss Loxia 21 f/2.8, and 25 f/2.5; and I have adapted the following Leica M mount lenses for use on Sony: Leica 16-21 f/4 WATE, 28 f/1.4 lux Asph, 50 f/2 APO, 90 f/2 APO cron; Voigtlander 35 f/1.7; 75 f/1.5 Zeiss ZM 35 f/1.4 and Zeiss ZM 85 f/4. So, I have used manual focus lenses on Sony a lot.
Feel free to ask me about any of these specific cameras or lenses, but let me offer these general comments. Shooting with a Leica M is not like shooting with a manual lens on a mirrorless camera. In my view if you are going to shoot with a Leica M you should like to use the rangefinder. It is true that Leica may come out with a Leica M camera with an EVF before long, but it will be super expensive for a number of years and for now we have no idea what that EVF camera will be. It is something to know is likely to develop, but not something to bank on in my view.
I like shooting with a rangefinder but more for 28mm to 50mm lenses. I think that is where the rangefinder is most useful. Shooting with the rangefinder is unlike shooting with an EVF and I enjoy it a lot, but it does come with tradeoffs. One big tradeoff is lenses need to be kept very small not to block the view in the rangefinder and especially they need to have a very small diameter. If you like small lenses, Leica M lenses will be super small primarily for this reason.
I like small lenses, but I typically like the Sony E mount version of Cosina Voigtlander (CV) lenses a bit better than Leica M versions of these lenses. Why, you might ask? The slightly bigger size allows a little longer focus throw and a shorter minimum focus distance, which I like for precision in focussing and for close ups, and a bigger diameter that reduces vignetting which can limit the depth of field in the outer part of all small lenses. That effect is reduced a bit in the Sony E mount lenses in my experience. I am happy to take the slight weight and size penalty to get a lens that I like better ergonomically and with just a bit less vignetting. That is just me, however.
I am super happy with my Sony E mount set of MF lenses. I will probably always shuffle my lenses a bit, but I like what is available. I might buy a Leica M again someday, but if I do I am now pretty sure I will keep a Sony with E mount MF lenses for when I want to shoot wider and longer, YMMV.
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