p.2 #2 · Thypoch Simera 28mm 1.4 Z mount - images & discussion
It took me this long to realize that even the aperture ring on these lenses are "backwards"...Nikon aperture rings should have the widest aperture on the far right.
Thypoch really couldn't be bothered to make a true Nikon lens could they? Let me guess...the focus ring is "backwards" too in terms of infinity, isn't it?
p.2 #5 · Thypoch Simera 28mm 1.4 Z mount - images & discussion
Yeah...the focus turns the 'wrong' way, the aperture turns the wrong way, the aperture scale is non-linear (which I hate), the focus markings aren't correct on my copy and it loses sharpness at MFD which isn't all that close. It has flat contrast and a warm color bias and the DOF indicator gimmick is BS on my copy. Oh, and it's got that big ghost flare if a bright light source is in the frame. Once I put my own focus markings on the focus ring, the unusually long focus stroke (wrong-way though it may be) has made it possible to walk around and shoot for hours in bright sunlight at f/8 and f/11 (and sometimes f/16) without having to focus through the finder, and get absolutely sharp results on a Z7II and Z8.
p.2 #8 · Thypoch Simera 28mm 1.4 Z mount - images & discussion
It's their hallmark lens in many ways, so it's good to see it offered for such reasonable money. The 21mm, 35mm and 50mm are based on high quality designs from Cosina and Leica, with optical improvements.
The source of the 28mm design is a mystery to me at least, but it never takes a poor image, for those who know what they are doing at least. You can always identify the neggers - nothing is any good, they hate everything! Many such cases.
p.2 #9 · Thypoch Simera 28mm 1.4 Z mount - images & discussion
philip_pj wrote:
It's their hallmark lens in many ways, so it's good to see it offered for such reasonable money. The 21mm, 35mm and 50mm are based on high quality designs from Cosina and Leica, with optical improvements.
The source of the 28mm design is a mystery to me at least, but it never takes a poor image, for those who know what they are doing at least. You can always identify the neggers - nothing is any good, they hate everything! Many such cases.
It really is a good lens...frankly, it's amazing for the price.
Clearly, the old classic retrofocus and newer double-gauss-with-wide-converter-in-front designs that accommodated the large back focus distance of the SLR cameras have been abandoned for this new, short register, made-for-mirrorless design style.
I would buy a Simera 21mm if it was offered (in a stills-style barrel) in Z mount. I only see a heavy cine-style 21mm lens with E and M mount, so...I wait.
p.2 #10 · Thypoch Simera 28mm 1.4 Z mount - images & discussion
I am also interested in a 21mm lens, be it a Ksana or a Simera, don't need 1.4 on a 21mm lens, I'd rather prefer a small package at 2.8 or even 3.5. I hope they will bring out the Ksana for Z for a start.
p.2 #11 · Thypoch Simera 28mm 1.4 Z mount - images & discussion
Thypoch do need to build out their offerings. They don't need to 'do a Viltrox', but a series of f2-f2.8 (or Ksana) lenses would be fine, and I'd like to see a 100/1.4 Simera.
Their 21mm I also have, and as an indulgence I would keep it even if I never used it. It's the best build quality lens I've ever owned, and that count is over 40 nowadays. 21s are fringe for what I do, and 430 grams doesn't help. It's actually $100 less than the Voigtlander lens design it emulates, lol. I don't work by sound, so I like the soft aperture detents and damped rings, and the long index mark is great for finding the desired aperture in the dusk.
p.2 #12 · Thypoch Simera 28mm 1.4 Z mount - images & discussion
It's an M-only lens, though. Bastian thinks it works better on Sony than on M cameras, so there you go. Lots of resolution, no harshness, great color tone gradients. Here are: a closeup, a portrait and a scenic. (but the 28mm is my favorita, my mother of pearl). Oh, and they make a fantastic adapter, PL style, double locking. M>Z too.
p.2 #13 · Thypoch Simera 28mm 1.4 Z mount - images & discussion
#1 is a distortion test and CA, no post fix and (of course) no profile. These lenses are purely optical. It's in a loo of the Hotel Combermere, in Shimla. I ballsed up focus in the #2, it's on the near lip of the saucer, should be on the 'Cafe' text.
p.2 #14 · Thypoch Simera 28mm 1.4 Z mount - images & discussion
philip_pj wrote:
Thypoch do need to build out their offerings. They don't need to 'do a Viltrox', but a series of f2-f2.8 (or Ksana) lenses would be fine, and I'd like to see a 100/1.4 Simera.
I haven't tried, but I would imagine it would not be fun using a manual focus for 100/1.4 especially without eye focus confirmation.
For portraits, I will continue to use the Nikon 28mm f1.4E, but the fact that this Simera can come close to the look of the 1.4E is fantastic. I'm not shooting much these days but my use will be mostly street but having the ability to get a portrait with it here and there is a nice bonus.
p.2 #17 · Thypoch Simera 28mm 1.4 Z mount - images & discussion
Compared to the Zeiss ZF 28mm 2.0 I noticed immedeately that it doesn't focus very close. It is 40 cm for the Thypoch (ration 1:11.5) and 24 cm for the Zeiss (1:4.7) which is also close to what Voigtländer 28 2.0 Apo can do: 25 cm (1:5 ratio).
Here are two with the Zeiss ZF 28 2.0 on D 750 at the same distance (40 cm) at 2.0 to compare out of focus rendering at largest aperture (obviously Thypoch is 1.4 and Zeiss 2.0) (sorry for blown highlights in the second)
and the same images as above at the minimal distance of the Zeiss 28 2.0 - to see the different ratio.
p.2 #18 · Thypoch Simera 28mm 1.4 Z mount - images & discussion
I've always been satisfied with the OOF look of the Zeiss ZF/Milvus lenses. Nothing distracting is what I want. The Simera 28mm is also very nice in this regard. My main concern with bokeh is that I don't see that ugly line-doubling effect...ever.
p.2 #19 · Thypoch Simera 28mm 1.4 Z mount - images & discussion
I also still like the Zeiss rendering best, but on mirrorless the lenses are not ideal, I don't like the additional lenght and bulk with the adaptor.
I realized that with Z7 the image does not show ANY exif, even if the Thypoch Simera is registered as an external lens. With the ZF or Zf.2, if you set the lens in the camera you get the focal lenght and the actual aperture in the exifs.
Does anyone have any different experience?
p.2 #20 · Thypoch Simera 28mm 1.4 Z mount - images & discussion
Zeiss ZF have no contacts and therefore cannot transmit aperture data to the body, just like any unchipped lens. ZF.2 can relay the data, but you HAVE TO control the aperture from the body. With the current Simera 28/1.4, if you enter "28mm f/1.4" into the Non-Cpu Lens index on the camera, the EXIF will show 28mm, f/1.4 on every shot.** At least you will know which lens you used.
**Note: Lightroom Classic shows "28mm f/1.4" on the file info, so I assume it's in the EXIF for the file.
Let me guess...the focus ring is "backwards" too in terms of infinity, isn't it?
