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Geoff D F wrote:
The foreground swirl in the corners is a bit more clear in this one.


Yup. The 35/1.4 is aspherically corrected but still retains a lot of that Summicron/Double Gauss out of focus rendering. Whenever I had soft images with that lens it's because I fired before attaining critical focus.



Aug 13, 2025 at 11:59 AM
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Right, Jack. Those who don't see any particular "character" in a fine lens do so because they (we?) "refuse to believe it is there?" Sort of like those who don't see leprechauns in the woods because they don't believe in leprfeharuns... ;-)

At least I still recognize bokeh when I see it.



Wasn't intending to offend your sensibilities with that comment, but obviously you took it that way... My point is that myself and others DO in fact see certain character in lenses while many cannot; and you are apparently in that latter category. Which is totally fine with me, and probably makes your lens choices a lot easier than mine

Reminds me of a fellow Leica film friend back in the day when we were all talking about which lens produced the best bokeh. His comment was "bokeh schmoke, there's no such thing." My reply was along the lines of, "Okay then..."



Aug 13, 2025 at 12:10 PM
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This is all so subjective to the point of being useless, but sure, I'll share my favorite lens that keeps me in the system: 35 1.4. It's quintessential Fuji (along with the X100 line), and everyone who plans a stop in Fujiland should try this lens at least once. I also like the other two from the original trio: 18 f/2 and 60 f/2.4. Especially that 60mm, it delivers some gorgeous looks when shooting portraits, like the 35 1.4 on steroids. They aren't the sharpest or fastest focusing lenses, and they aren't weather sealed, but they're a blast to shoot with.



Aug 13, 2025 at 03:07 PM
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p.3 #4 · Fuji lens recommendations


For someone like myself that has zero experience with Fuji. I find everyone's opinions helpful. So maybe to you they are useless. But I appreciate everyone's responses.

MatthewK wrote:
This is all so subjective to the point of being useless, but sure, I'll share my favorite lens that keeps me in the system: 35 1.4. It's quintessential Fuji (along with the X100 line), and everyone who plans a stop in Fujiland should try this lens at least once. I also like the other two from the original trio: 18 f/2 and 60 f/2.4. Especially that 60mm, it delivers some gorgeous looks when shooting portraits, like the 35 1.4 on steroids. They aren't the sharpest or fastest focusing lenses, and they aren't weather sealed, but they're a blast to shoot
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Aug 13, 2025 at 06:47 PM
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Point taken! Just to be clear, I feel that "my" personal opinion isn't all that helpful and rarely receive any feedback when I do post, so often times don't bother. If you or anyone find it helpful in any way, then it was worthwhile to share it




Aug 13, 2025 at 08:37 PM
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MatthewK wrote:
This is all so subjective to the point of being useless, but sure, I'll share my favorite lens that keeps me in the system: 35 1.4. It's quintessential Fuji (along with the X100 line), and everyone who plans a stop in Fujiland should try this lens at least once. I also like the other two from the original trio: 18 f/2 and 60 f/2.4. Especially that 60mm, it delivers some gorgeous looks when shooting portraits, like the 35 1.4 on steroids. They aren't the sharpest or fastest focusing lenses, and they aren't weather sealed, but they're a blast to shoot
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The 60mm f/2.4 is an interesting lens, though flawed, too. I’ve had it since it was first released, all the way back when I was using a XE1, then with my XPro2, and currently with the XT5. It has its pluses and minuses.

PLUSES:

It is optically a fine lens.

f/2.4 is a wide enough aperture for may purposes.

With the lens hood removed (more on that below) it is a relatively small lens for a 60mm focal length — not tiny, but small enough.

It does focus a bit closer (more on that below) than most typical lenses.

MINUSES

It comes with a comically large metal lens hood that easily bends — mine did and it no longer fits. (I replaced it with a tiny screw-in hood from a third party.)

If focuses quite slowly. It is accurate enough, but really slow — probably because it has to deal with the larger focus range.

The lens hood that comes with the lens is ridiculous — almost as big as the lens itself, and made of malleable metal. Mine bent early on and no longer worked. Fortunately, you can replace it with an effective and quite small screw-in hood.

It isn’t really a macro lens — more of a “close focus” lens, really. That’s fine, but just don’t assume you are getting a real macro with it.

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18mm f/2:

I have no experience with the 18mm f/2.

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35mm f/1.4:

I have also owned and used the 35mm f/1.4 for over a dozen years. It has a lot of pluses and, to my mind, no real weaknesses:

It is an excellent optical performer. It is plenty sharp for current 40MP sensors.

While it isn’t likely as fast as some of the newest lenses, it is AFs briskly.

It is actually remarkably small for a 35mm f/1.4 lens.

I’d try a pluses and minuses approach to talking about this lens, but I haven’t found any real minuses with it.

I hear a lot about is special or magical quality, but I don’t buy that. I think a lot of that is people reporting what they want to believe about it. It is a fine lens and an excellent performer, but you aren’t going to see some photographic “magic” from it.

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Aug 13, 2025 at 11:59 PM
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From Fuji’s lens lineup, I’m very fond of the XF 35mm f1.4 and XF 50mm f1.0 WR. For me, they represent the pinnacle of Fuji’s lenses. For traveling, the very inexpensive XC 15-45 zoom is also quite handy—its photos have character, and the lens weighs practically nothing. Unfortunately, the power zoom is annoying.


Aug 14, 2025 at 03:59 AM
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So curious if anyone has received the XF 23mm f/2.8 R WR pancake lens yet? I know that would at best be a very small number of X-E5 owners. Share any thoughts you might have. Other than the advantages of its size how do we think it will compare to the XF 23mm f/2 R WR.


Aug 14, 2025 at 06:28 AM
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p.3 #9 · Fuji lens recommendations


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35mm f/1.4:

I hear a lot about is special or magical quality, but I don’t buy that. I think a lot of that is people reporting what they want to believe about it. It is a fine lens and an excellent performer, but you aren’t going to see some photographic “magic” from it.


The "magic" is the of it's far less complicated optical design compared to modern lenses. No internal focusing elements, no ED elements. 8 elements, 6 groups versus the 15 elements, 10 groups of the Fuji 33mm 1.4 WR. The simplicity results in chromatic abberations wide open, particular LoCa, soft corners wide open, some field curvature, busy bokeh. It's a rendering more often found in lens designs from decades ago rather than this century where lenses half flat focal planes, sharp corners, well controlled abberation, and bokeh that feels gaussian. These "flaws" create the charm or magic you seem incapable of grasping.

What I particularly enjoy about the Fuji 35 1.4 is it can feel almost dreamy wide open but cleans up nice when stopped down to F/2.8 or F/4. Even F/2 cleans up the LoCa while creating a delightful feel to out of focus foreground elements. Out of the 4 35mm lenses I've owned for X mount, it's the one I use the most and will never sell.



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Azuremen wrote:
The "magic" is the of it's far less complicated optical design compared to modern lenses. No internal focusing elements, no ED elements. 8 elements, 6 groups versus the 15 elements, 10 groups of the Fuji 33mm 1.4 WR. The simplicity results in chromatic abberations wide open, particular LoCa, soft corners wide open, some field curvature, busy bokeh. It's a rendering more often found in lens designs from decades ago rather than this century where lenses half flat focal planes, sharp corners, well controlled abberation, and bokeh that feels gaussian. These "flaws" create the charm or magic you seem incapable of
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I’m utterly certain that if I put my tripod-mounted 35mm f/1.4 on my XT5 and made a photo, then swapped in the 35mm f/2 lens… and made 16” x 24” prints from both and put them side by side that your ability to detect which is which would be essentially equal to random probability.

How do I know this? I’ve used the fine 35mm f/1.4 lens for over a dozen years. A few years back I also had access to the f/2 35mm lens for about a month. Since I had heard that the f/1.4 was optically better but that the f/2 was faster focusing, I decided to extensively test them both, making photographs as I’ve described above. Then I carefully compared the resulting images (all shot in raw mode), including both prints and high magnification side-by-side screen inspections.

If you put one or the other in front of me, I could not tell you which was which.

When I displayed 100% and 200% magnification crops of the same portion of the image side-by-side on one of my 27” monitors, zeroed in on the far corners, and switched back and forth obsessively between the two images looking for the tiniest visible difference…

… sometimes, if I did this long enough, I could maybe convince myself that they looked just a tiny bit different in the far corners. Possibly. But only with this side-by-side viewing at huge sizes.

In normal photography? Hope.

I often read posts in which the writer assembles a bunch of the usual buzz words — number of elements, LoCA, micro contrast, and all the rest of it — to buttress their pre-existing bias that some magic or another is in the lens. The truth is that any significant magic comes not from lenses but from the photographer’s vision and skill… at the time of capture, in post, and with printing.

The 35mm f/1.4 is a fine lens. I like mine a lot, which is why I keep using it over a dozen years later. (It is sharp in the corners, by the way). But it is not “magical.”



Aug 16, 2025 at 02:12 PM
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I’m utterly certain that if I put my tripod-mounted 35mm f/1.4 on my XT5 and made a photo, then swapped in the 35mm f/2 lens… and made 16” x 24” prints from both and put them side by side that your ability to detect which is which would be essentially equal to random probability.

How do I know this? I’ve used the fine 35mm f/1.4 lens for over a dozen years. A few years back I also had access to the f/2 35mm lens for about a month. Since I had heard that the f/1.4 was optically better but that the
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When I bought my first Fuji, I did a fairly bit of 'research' before deciding which lenses to buy. There is a Fuji website that discusses the philosophy behind some of the lens designs. The 35 1.4 was designed as a 'classic' portrait oriented standard, sharp in the middle but not so much at the edges at wide apertures. Rather like the Summilux pre aspheric 50 I had.
I could not find a single test site that had tested both f/1.4 and f/2 35s that didn't show the f/2 sharper at every shared aperture, centre and edges. Whether that can be seen in practical subjective use depends on how hard you look. But to deny that it is so is burying your head in the sand.
In addition, even then (8 years ago) an AF lens that had slow and noisy AF was a poor thing, even in the early Nikon days 30+ years ago when I had an F801 it was the camera AF that was the problem, not the lens. I'd rather have MF than slow noisy AF.

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Aug 16, 2025 at 03:51 PM
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p.3 #12 · Fuji lens recommendations


gdanmitchell wrote:
I’m utterly certain that if I put my tripod-mounted 35mm f/1.4 on my XT5 and made a photo, then swapped in the 35mm f/2 lens… and made 16” x 24” prints from both and put them side by side that your ability to detect which is which would be essentially equal to random probability.


Congrats on ignoring just about everything I said to validate your opinion with a brick wall sharpness test. I'd assume you'd shoot these at f/8, which ignores the main points I made regarding the rendering.

The difference between the 35 1.4 and 35 2 WR at F/2 or wider is obviously when shooting subjects 15 feet or closer. I used the 35/2 WR extensively for a couple of years before picking up the 35/1.4 and continued to use the f/2 WR when I needed weather resistance. I've A-B tested the two several times (and the 7artisan 35 0.95 and 1.2 mk1) and they render quite differently. I've seen A-B videos and I can tell the difference provided they aren't at f/8 shooting at infinity.

The 35/2 WR has more distortion, it has markedly different bokeh - cat's eye swirl versus the flare out of the 35 1.4. It has less LoCa wide open, less field curvature. You can write these off as "buzzwords" all you want but they are observable, measurable qualities of these lenses. The 35 1.4 is incredible for portraits, particularly compared to the 35 2, and particularly so for wider shots where is a person is 1/2 to 1/3 of the frame.

You clearly are not the intended audience for the 35 1.4. Static scenes at f/8 with digital feeling processing is not what the 35 1.4 is for. You'd be better suited with the 35 2 WR or just use the 27 2.8 WR if the wider FoV works for you.

My point regarding "magic" was it's physics. It's simple physics but you can double down on "I can't tell the difference in my tests so it clearly must be buzzword salad"



Aug 16, 2025 at 07:18 PM
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I could not find a single test site that had tested both f/1.4 and f/2 35s that didn't show the f/2 sharper at every shared aperture, centre and edges. Whether that can be seen in practical subjective use depends on how hard you look. But to deny that it is so is burying your head in the sand.


I don’t deny that two types of lenses are not identical. In fact, I said that if I tried really hard, looking at large prints or even larger magnifications on screens, with the images side by side, that sometimes I thought that maybe I could convince myself that there was a difference.

My point is two-fold. First, any difference (albeit measurable on the test bench) is so small as to be essentially invisible in actual photographs, even when printed at good sizes. Second, these small differences (even if we go accept for the moment the notion that they might be just barely visible in a few rare cases) don’t make one lens more magical than the other.

Photographic magic doesn’t come from tiny differences between similar lenses. It comes from the vision of photographers — their way of seeing — reflected in their sill at finding subjects, composing, post-processing, editing, and printing.

In a world in which we can look at beautiful prints in exhibitions and not even be able to tell whether they were shot with APS-C, FF, or miniMF systems (and that’s the reality in all but the rarest cases) the difference between two similar and very good lenses contributes darned little to the final result.

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Azuremen wrote:
Congrats on ignoring just about everything I said to validate your opinion with a brick wall sharpness test. I'd assume you'd shoot these at f/8, which ignores the main points I made regarding the rendering.


Speaking of “ignoring everything I said, you seemed to have missed the part about doing the shooting over a period of about a month with both lenses.

As to your made-up f/8 silliness, that’s not an aperture that is among my first choices. Given the diffraction blur issues at smaller apertures on crop, my interest in bokeh in many photographs, and the fact that I do a whole lot of night street photography, I’m usually at larger apertures than that, more typically in the f/1.4 to f/5.6 range on that lens.

(Not sure where your f/8 business comes from, but I’ll guess that you were thinking of a supposedly sharpest aperture. However if you were looking for “the sharpest aperture” on a cropped sensor camera, and using either of these lenses, f/8 would not be it, especially with today’s 40MP sensors. One might be tempted to point out that this is “simple physics.” ;-) )

Confirmation bias is a tough thing that afflicts quite a few buyers of photographic equipment. Testing our assumptions against reality is a useful endeavor. In the case I described, I started out thinking that some things were supposed to be true about these two lenses, based on claims in reviews and similar. But actually testing them didn’t bear out those claims, and I had to revise my starting assumptions.

Actually testing your gear and your assumptions (not to make sure you have the World’s Best Lens or locate Terrible Awful Flaws) is a great way learn the capabilities and qualities of your lenses, and then make use of that knowledge to make photographic decisions. The best tests are objective, hopefully done in a way that defeats confirmation bias.

You clearly are not the intended audience for the 35 1.4. Static scenes at f/8 with digital feeling processing is not what the 35 1.4 is for.

I laughed at that one.

So, as a user of this lens for a dozen years and thousands of photographs in a variety of genres, I suppose I should thank you for sharing with me how I should and should not use this lens and that, apparently, I”m not the kind of photographer it was intended for.I’m sure that your deep acquaintance with my photography and photographs informs this logical position. ;-)

My point regarding "magic" was it's physics. It's simple physics…

It ain’t just “simple physics,” especially when we’re talking about “magic” lenses. The proof, as they say, is in the pudding. In photography, that pudding is photographs, not “physics.”

YMMV.




Aug 17, 2025 at 12:26 AM
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Like someone else I would recommend the 70-300 it is a good lens, I find it ok on the xe4 and used it for a trip to Hawaii, only time I swapped it to the xt5 was when I needed better focus to get some birds.
I adore the Viltrox 75 but it is what some would call big and heavy and I almost always use it on the xt5.
I picked up the sigma 56. I love this for the tiny form factor also great for travelling.
As for zooms I have the 16-80 and no idea why everyone says it is so bad, I find mine to be as good as my 33 and better than the first copy I had of the 33. I’ve had the 16-80 a while because I probably would have bought one of the others if they were around when I got the lens.



Aug 17, 2025 at 07:49 AM
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Certain types of oof rendering, before and after the PoF, can add “magic” to an image *for me.* I don’t care if you can’t see it or if it doesn’t matter to you.

Certain aberrations, especially spherical, can add “magic” to an image *for me.* I don’t care if you can’t see it or if it doesn’t matter to you.

Not all lenses have either of the above. But some have both; and when they do, they’re super magical

That someone else cannot see these effects in an image is in my view, too bad for them. 🤷🏼



Aug 17, 2025 at 08:57 AM
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(Not sure where your f/8 business comes from, but I’ll guess that you were thinking of a supposedly sharpest aperture. However if you were looking for “the sharpest aperture” on a cropped sensor camera, and using either of these lenses, f/8 would not be it, especially with today’s 40MP sensors. One might be tempted to point out that this is “simple physics.” ;-) )

Confirmation bias is a tough thing that afflicts quite a few buyers of photographic equipment. Testing our assumptions against reality is a useful endeavor. In the case I described, I started out thinking that some things were
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I didn't ignore anything - a month is not much time in the grand scheme of things and doesn't change the fact you explained not of your process except you had a tripod. Please do explain your process, even go as far as to show us the comparison images.

I said f/8 because the overwhelming majority of your images are flat landscapes. I don't really care if peak sharpness is at f/5.6 or f/8 and it will very from lens to lens. If you have some source on peak sharpness for APS-C happening at a certain aperture, I'd love to see. If you want to argue it's a result of pixel pitch, then we'd see the same issues on many modern FF sensors and it would less a function of sensor size.

If you can't see the difference between the lenses in your test scenarios, congrats. I can absolutely see the difference in shooting scenarios I often find myself in.

I laughed at that one.

So, as a user of this lens for a dozen years and thousands of photographs in a variety of genres, I suppose I should thank you for sharing with me how I should and should not use this lens and that, apparently, I”m not the kind of photographer it was intended for.I’m sure that your deep acquaintance with my photography and photographs informs this logical position. ;-)


If you can't tell the difference between the 1.4 and 2 WR, then why bother with the slower focusing, more delicate, unsealed, more expensive lens? Why not sell it, buy a 35/2 WR, and pocket the extra money? That is the point I'm making.

I've shot thousands, if not tens of thousands of photos, with both the 35/2 WR and 35/1.4 of the better part of a deacde. I'm not saying one is inherently superior, I'm saying they have different qualities. If you're shooting them stopped down, the images produced do not showcase these differences.

It ain’t just “simple physics,” especially when we’re talking about “magic” lenses. The proof, as they say, is in the pudding. In photography, that pudding is photographs, not “physics.”

YMMV.


Yeah, knowing how to use your gear and execute a creative vision obviously matter. Knowing what gear to select to achieve that look also matters. If you want dreamy portraits, you shoot a large aperture lens that has abberations and thus glow. If you want crisp product shots, you grab short telephoto and flash kit and stop down. If you want a lo-fi point and shoot aesthetic, you grab a normal-wide, diffusion filter, and small hotshoe flash.

What you seem incapable of grasping, despite what countless other people have, is that optical designs of lenses have tangible impacts on how photographs are rendered. As an example, the 35/2 can not produce this rendering - the focus fall off, the abberations, the bokeh, the corners coming into focus as a result of field curvature.








Aug 17, 2025 at 05:03 PM
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Sending back the 13mm Viltrox and pre-ordering the Sigma 12mm. Seems better size wise for X-E5. Also picking up a Sigma 56 1.4 which i had before with Sony and liked. The Viltrox 1.2 that is coming I'm assuming will be much bigger. We will see.


Aug 19, 2025 at 09:50 AM
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Azuremen wrote:
I said f/8 because the overwhelming majority of your images are flat landscapes.


Jeez.

Right. Just “flat” landscape photographs. ;-)



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