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Are these M4 Mac Specs Good for Photo Editing? Or Too Much?

  
 
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p.1 #1 · Are these M4 Mac Specs Good for Photo Editing? Or Too Much?


I want to use a MacBook Pro as my system for photo editing. I use Lightroom Classic, Photoshop, DXO PhotoLab, NIK, and Topaz AI to edit.

I am not a pro, and I usually only edit one photo at a time. The file sizes can be large because the files come from Sony 50 and 60 mpix sensors and also from a GFX100S II with 100 mpix. I do regularly cull through hundreds of photographs on a regular basis using FastRawViewer or LRC. I would like to keep most photos on the laptop, so I am looking at 2TB SSDs.

I am considering two configurations. Set 2 is more powerful and more expensive than Set 1.

My questions are: What does the more powerful Set 2 get me over Set 1 in terms of the experience of photo editing?
And, am I over-specing what I need to do my photo editing comfortably and efficiently?

Set #1 of specs are:

Apple M4 Pro 14-Core Chip
48GB Unified RAM | 2TB SSD
16" 3456 x 2234 Liquid Retina XDR Screen
20-Core GPU | 16-Core Neural Engine

Set #2 of specs are:

Apple M4 Max 16-Core Chip
64GB Unified RAM | 2TB SSD
16" 3456 x 2234 Liquid Retina XDR Screen
40-Core GPU | 16-Core Neural Engine



Jul 17, 2025 at 08:26 PM
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p.1 #2 · Are these M4 Mac Specs Good for Photo Editing? Or Too Much?


Any Pro or Max chip with 32GB RAM or more gets the job done ... Max chip with 64GB will give you a longer useful life, before you "outgrow" it.

My vote goes to the Max vs. Pro.

Reason ... 2X more modules (Max @ 4 modules, Pro @ 2 modules) = 2X faster memory bandwidth. Just a "quicker" level of responsiveness from my testing back when I was demoing (granted M2 Gen's). 64GB RAM is not a criteria, imo. I have 64GB in my rig, but I also demo'd the 32GB version and my test comps weren't significantly different. Max vs. Pro ... I enjoy more responsive brushwork, etc. and the "downgrade" to Pro was noticeable.


1. Max + 64GB
2. Max + 32GB
3. Pro + 48GB


#2 being the bang / buck sweet spot, #1 being the last you a really long time, #3 budget conscious and still get the job done.

HTH / GL




Jul 17, 2025 at 08:58 PM
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p.1 #3 · Are these M4 Mac Specs Good for Photo Editing? Or Too Much?


two things:

I bought the 16" MBP M1 Max when it came out. I did so, because at the time didn't have a home office and wanted the most screen real estate I could have. If I wanted a Laptop today, I'd consider the 14" because it is actually portable. So, do you need a portable device, then get a 14". Do you have a workstation, get a Mac Studio.

Second, check out "Art is Right" on youtube. He does extensive Mac reviews in different configurations for photographers. He does some benchmark-tests in Lightroom as well as Capture One and some video programs. Generally speaking, yes the upgrade to the Max chips is worth it. I think those are the appropriate videos for you to watch:

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p.1 #4 · Are these M4 Mac Specs Good for Photo Editing? Or Too Much?


I was also going to link you to ArtisRight YT as he seems to have the best series of videos comparing all these configs with various photo programs and tasks.

Any Apple M chip is going to allow you to comfortably edit. I'm still using my M1Max 16MBP with 32RAM and 24GPU to edit all my photos. Sometimes via the laptops screen and other times hooked up to a 32" 4K monitor. These days I do everything in LR. Before LR Denoise AI I used Topaz and DXO PureRaw without issue.

Really the only task that slows me down on my current system is the LR Denoise AI as it takes ~28-29s for one of my A1II Compressed RAW files to run and the latest LR update doesn't allow that to run in the background anymore. That task is GPU based and therefore if I was to upgrade I'd take your #2 choice to get the 40GPU cores, the Max chip and the 64GB of RAM just to be more future proof and have my Denoise AI times cut down substantially.



Jul 18, 2025 at 04:58 AM
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p.1 #5 · Are these M4 Mac Specs Good for Photo Editing? Or Too Much?


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I'm still using my M1Max 16MBP with 32RAM and 24GPU to edit all my photos.


I have that same machine and I too would suggest getting 64GB RAM minimum!

I'd decide between 14" M4M 64GB and a M4M Studio with the Studio Display. Comes out at around the same price! Just figure out whether you need a portable machine or if you work stationary.



Jul 18, 2025 at 07:15 AM
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RustyBug wrote:
Any Pro or Max chip with 32GB RAM or more gets the job done ... Max chip with 64GB will give you a longer useful life, before you "outgrow" it.

My vote goes to the Max vs. Pro.

Reason ... 2X more modules (Max @ 4 modules, Pro @ 2 modules) = 2X faster memory bandwidth. Just a "quicker" level of responsiveness from my testing back when I was demoing (granted M2 Gen's). 64GB RAM is not a criteria, imo. I have 64GB in my rig, but I also demo'd the 32GB version and my test comps weren't significantly different. Max
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jj1804 wrote:
two things:

I bought the 16" MBP M1 Max when it came out. I did so, because at the time didn't have a home office and wanted the most screen real estate I could have. If I wanted a Laptop today, I'd consider the 14" because it is actually portable. So, do you need a portable device, then get a 14". Do you have a workstation, get a Mac Studio.

Second, check out "Art is Right" on youtube. He does extensive Mac reviews in different configurations for photographers. He does some benchmark-tests in Lightroom as well as Capture One and some video
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arbitrage wrote:
I was also going to link you to ArtisRight YT as he seems to have the best series of videos comparing all these configs with various photo programs and tasks.

Any Apple M chip is going to allow you to comfortably edit. I'm still using my M1Max 16MBP with 32RAM and 24GPU to edit all my photos. Sometimes via the laptops screen and other times hooked up to a 32" 4K monitor. These days I do everything in LR. Before LR Denoise AI I used Topaz and DXO PureRaw without issue.

Really the only task that slows me down on my current
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Very helpful advice so far. Thank you all very much.

I am pretty sure I want to be portable-I ike being able to work on photos in various locations while I am at home. This is also why I want a 2TB machine. Sticking to a desk is less enjoyable for me.



Jul 18, 2025 at 07:36 AM
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p.1 #7 · Are these M4 Mac Specs Good for Photo Editing? Or Too Much?


jj1804 wrote:
I have that same machine and I too would suggest getting 64GB RAM minimum!

I'd decide between 14" M4M 64GB and a M4M Studio with the Studio Display. Comes out at around the same price! Just figure out whether you need a portable machine or if you work stationary.


I have a 16" MBP in the M2 version of the Max with 64GB.



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p.1 #8 · Are these M4 Mac Specs Good for Photo Editing? Or Too Much?


chiron wrote:
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Very helpful advice so far. Thank you all very much.

I am pretty sure I want to be portable-I ike being able to work on photos in various locations while I am at home. This is also why I want a 2TB machine. Sticking to a desk is less enjoyable for me.


I've also got 2TB in my rig. I saw no need for anything larger, and probably could have done fine with 1TB ... considering how easy it is to have an external / portable SSD or a desktop spinner. That said, 2TB feels " about right " for a future-proof (ish) rig.

As to portability, I don't really travel much with mine, but it does live on my lap (i.e. recliner / no desk), and the display of the MBP 16" is quite nice. I initially worried about the size diff of the 14" vs. 16" (my other rigs were always 15"), but after purchasing a 16" and returning it (Apples return policy is superb), when I went down to the 14" ... seemed way too small. So, I returned the 14" and settled in on the 16". Overall I bought / returned multiple configurations from the MBA to the MBP, configured with different Base / Pro / Max configs, as well as different RAM configs (24GB, 32GB and 64GB).

If you are at all uncertain ... Apples return policy is exceptional ... and I've often advocated folks using it, to understand what is the right purchase for them. Apple was very easy to work with, and my local store would just smile when I came back through with another return. My discussions with them was that they were just fine with that. They just wanted me to be a satisfied customer in the end ... which has inherently led me to speak to this numerous times over the years. So yeah, they got their money's worth in allowing all my purchase / return cycles. IIRC, I purchased / returned 5 different rigs (over a multi-month period) before I settled in on my 16" MBP Max 64GB 2TB.

If you have the temperament to purchase / return to try them out, it makes for a very good use case (for you) to understand the differences of where you're money is being spent. I had an uprezz / pano stitch procedure that I used as part of my testing. Pretty much the most challenging task I put my rig through.

Art can't do the same things that everybody wants done, but you can certainly, do it for yourself ... if you have the temperament for such. That said, I do greatly appreciate the work / presentation that Art provides. Just sometimes, when you're the one driving ... you get the feel for whether it bugs you or not, better than reading a graph. They'll ALL do the job ... just a matter of your temperament for how long it takes. Some tasks are "walk away, let it run". Others, are about how fluid / disruptive is it to your workflow MOJO. Imo, the additional memory bandwidth of the Max (vs. Pro vs. Base) made my workflow mojo a better experience (brushwork, etc.). Batch processing can be walk away / let it run stuff. Working a file (particularly a VERY LARGE file) can get a bit more sluggish on the lesser rigs. Just depends on your workflow pref's ... which led me to draw my line at Max + 32GB (or more).

Max + 32GB ... anything less, and I could start to "feel" the difference (and test times confirmed). 64GB I didn't really experience anything more / better ... but, WTH, I went with 64GB (just because), anyway.

HTH




Jul 18, 2025 at 09:26 AM
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p.1 #9 · Are these M4 Mac Specs Good for Photo Editing? Or Too Much?


Yes, I agree, please take advantage of Apple's no questions return policy to get the right configuration for you. It allows customers like me to continue to benefit from the option to purchase even recently released models as refurbished (which I recently took advantage of with a Studio M4 Max purchase).

I'd definitely go with the Max configuration for better future proofing.

14" vs. 16" is another matter. 14" will result in thermal throttling kicking in sooner than 16" if you use it hard enough. But if you're mostly doing one-off image work, throttling probably won't be an issue if you find 14" more suitable for its portability. For portability I greatly preferred 14" when I bought an M1 Pro MBP back in 2022. If you really need a larger screen you could always use a 4K monitor, but of course will then lose the portability. Rapid high resolution image culling however could put a strain on the processor and I have noticed the fans can kick in pretty quickly with my 14" MBP when pushing it hard.



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p.1 #10 · Are these M4 Mac Specs Good for Photo Editing? Or Too Much?


For your stated use scenario, I definitely would go with set #2 BUT with a 14" version for the portability. Down the road if you decide there is a frequent need for a more serious editing environment, you can add a 27" display and use the MPB in clamshell mode.


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p.1 #11 · Are these M4 Mac Specs Good for Photo Editing? Or Too Much?


Either machine will be fine for your stated usage and will last many years. The only reason I'd consider a Max chip is for video editing, which may use the addtional power. I've got a M2 Max (12-Core Chip: eight performance cores and four high-efficiency cores, 38-Core GPU, 16-Core Neural Engine) and most of the cores are barely used most of the time. Handbrake and DaVinci Resolve are about the only apps that really exercise the chip, although Affinity Photo can momentarily keep its utilization high (mostly pano/HDR work).. Capture One barely touches the chip and still runs quite snappily.

I bought a 16" unit because I find 14" a bit small for editing and when I need to see multiple windows simultaneously. Also, as mentioned earlier, the 16 has much better heat dissipation and (not mentioned earlier) better speakers (if you want to listen to audio).

One thing you didn't mention: I'd definitely go for the optional no-glare display. The glare off my display is miserable outdoors and where there are bright indoor lights.



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p.1 #12 · Are these M4 Mac Specs Good for Photo Editing? Or Too Much?


I have your #1 choice in 14" MBP and the Studio in the M4 Max/64gb config. The MBP works great for image editing as-is, and for most operations is only seconds or fractions of behind the studio in actual processing speed for given operations.

One downside to the new MBP's is the displays are difficult to calibrate. Apple has set them up with internal calibration software that only works with a few heads and not one I own. They do give you a simple manual adjust routine, which is pretty decent. The good news here is the default calibration is excellent, though not as reassuringly good as calibrating 5K monitor on the Studio...

As for size, if you want portability I would advise going into a Mac store and handling the 16" -- it's a big-feeling laptop and why I went with the 14. But then I also have the studio for my day to day processing.

Also note the 14" is about $500 cheaper for comparable builds, and more like $1600 cheaper than the M4 Max build you have. It's why I went ahead and bought the two machines... The $1600 delta for the fuller 16" build paid for more than half of the similar spec'd Studio...



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p.1 #13 · Are these M4 Mac Specs Good for Photo Editing? Or Too Much?


I’d do a bit more digging on whether you need a MBP for photo editing. A few YT’s state a the MB Air M4 15”
does the job just fine unless you are doing heavy video and/or music editing.



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Jack Flesher wrote:
One downside to the new MBP's is the displays are difficult to calibrate. Apple has set them up with internal calibration software that only works with a few heads and not one I own. They do give you a simple manual adjust routine, which is pretty decent. The good news here is the default calibration is excellent, though not as reassuringly good as calibrating 5K monitor on the Studio...


I found that MBP display calibration works like other displays when used with a Datacolor Spyder X or Calibrate sensor and software. The trick is to select one of the two "Apple Display..." profiles instead of the "Photography" one (the latter can't be changed. Then calibrate as usual and be sure to select that ColorSync profile when you're editing. I found documentation on ColorBrite (formerly XRite) and Datacolor websites, as well as several YouTube and blog posts. In fact, I'm pretty sure that you could also search this forum and find something.



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JBPhotog wrote:
I’d do a bit more digging on whether you need a MBP for photo editing. A few YT’s state a the MB Air M4 15”
does the job just fine unless you are doing heavy video and/or music editing.


While the Air's processing power is probably adequate for photo editing, the Pro's better display (brightness and gamut), larger possible storage and memory configurations, and some other attributes, made it much less interesting to me. However, if budget constrained, the Air's certainly worth considering.



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Abbott Schindl wrote:
I found that MBP display calibration works like other displays when used with a Datacolor Spyder X or Calibrate sensor and software. The trick is to select one of the two "Apple Display..." profiles instead of the "Photography" one (the latter can't be changed. Then calibrate as usual and be sure to select that ColorSync profile when you're editing. I found documentation on ColorBrite (formerly XRite) and Datacolor websites, as well as several YouTube and blog posts. In fact, I'm pretty sure that you could also search this forum and find something.


Hmmm. My head is an XRite and I used the newer “Calibrite” software, AND was able to save a profile. However, there’s no option to apply or select a profile anywhere in the display dialog. Under the calibrate tab in the montor presets dropout panel, my head is not recognizable as connected to the OS. Customize presets does not allow for profile loading. I am using P3-600 nit which allows a manual, visual tweak.

Edit: Ah. If I open Colorsync, my created profile is shown as the active one. The odd step is having to open it to see what profile is applied. It used be selectable in the display dialog and isn’t now, but still is for external monitors, hence my confusion.



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Jack Flesher wrote:
Edit: Ah. If I open Colorsync, my created profile is shown as the active one. The odd step is having to open it to see what profile is applied. It used be selectable in the display dialog and isn’t now, but still is for external monitors, hence my confusion.


Exactly. At times like this one needs to remember that Macintosh is "the computer for the rest of us"...right? I'm glad you got things sorted out.



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JBPhotog wrote:
I’d do a bit more digging on whether you need a MBP for photo editing. A few YT’s state a the MB Air M4 15”
does the job just fine unless you are doing heavy video and/or music editing.


No way I'd follow the YT's on this one.

If you want a good performing MBA (that is adequate for photo editing), then you want an MBA.

If you want a superior photo editing rig, you want an MBP.

The MBA will do it, sure. But, the experience is going to be different. If you are only casually editing, that's one thing. If you seriously editing, the difference will be noteworthy.

Essentially, I can do my editing on the iPad Pro. Computing power is very similar to the MBA. However, the responsiveness is different with the MBP. That, and the display is different in the MBP from the MBA.


I bought an MBA and used it. After having used the MBP before, the MBA experience was a let down. If you've never experienced a well spec'd MBP, you may love the MBA. But, I'd STRONGLY RECOMMEND someone actually using a well spec'd MBP vs. the MBA (Apple's return policy is PERFECT for this) before deciding which one is their investment into their future editing experience.

YT'ers are likely trying to save folks a $$$ or two ... but, they aren't really accounting for the YEARS of USE that someone is expecting to get from their MBA vs. MBP experience.

Again, if someone WANTS an MBA ... go for it, it's nice. But, if someone wants an editing experience that they'll be glad they have it for years to come, the well spec'd MBP is a MUST TRY. If you try it, then try the MBA and go "meh" the MBA is just fine for my needs ... then, there you go. If you go "Whoa, this really is a step backwards.". Then there you go.

For me, the difference in the display of editing with the MBA vs. MBP was salient enough, that even if the processing power of the MBA was not much different from the MBP, the MBP experience was worth the added cost / weight. YMMV ... but, I'd certainly recommend that folks TRY BOTH FOR THEMSELVES, and then they'll know / understand what / why they are making such an important investment decisions.

YT'ers ... they'll tell you anything, and paint it anyway. Much better to draw your own conclusion, and Apple's Return Policy is designed for that very thing. Use it. Rely on your own judgment, no excuse not to. Apple makes it easy to do.

No need to risk buyer's remorse in getting the wrong product. When it comes to "photo editing" temperament, we all have our own ideas of what the means. MBA vs. MBP ... sure, an MBA does well enough, but does it land where someone really wants if. For some, the answer will be YES. For others, not so much. Only the individual can answer that for themselves ... and the mechanism for that is Apple's excellent return policy.

YMMV




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p.1 #19 · Are these M4 Mac Specs Good for Photo Editing? Or Too Much?


One more comment on the Air vs MBP, and that's connectivity. The MBP has an extra TB port and a built-in SD reader, along with an HDMI port that the Air does not have. The SD reader may not sound like much, but it's super convenient for images when traveling. My cams use SD and CFx, and I set them to mirror. I always carry a fast dual reader, but even though it's slower transfer than CFx, the onboard SD is so convenient I find myself using it all the time. FWIW...


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Abbott Schindl wrote:
Either machine will be fine for your stated usage and will last many years. The only reason I'd consider a Max chip is for video editing, which may use the addtional power. I've got a M2 Max (12-Core Chip: eight performance cores and four high-efficiency cores, 38-Core GPU, 16-Core Neural Engine) and most of the cores are barely used most of the time. Handbrake and DaVinci Resolve are about the only apps that really exercise the chip, although Affinity Photo can momentarily keep its utilization high (mostly pano/HDR work).. Capture One barely touches the chip and still runs quite
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Thank you for the good advice and the benefit of your experience. I think what you are saying makes sense.

I do wonder about the utility of the nano glass scree, however. I wonder if the nano glass gives a less sharp image for details because of the light diffusion that makes the nano glass non-reflective. I can almost always position my laptop so that the reflective screen is not picking up other light.



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