Weird, Nikon issuing a FW update for their own FW that borked 3rd party lenses, even though it was INSISTED upon that it was the third parties to blame.
RoamingScott wrote:
Weird, Nikon issuing a FW update for their own FW that borked 3rd party lenses, even though it was INSISTED upon that it was the third parties to blame.
Very, very interesting
Not easy for a Japanese firm to admit any wrongdoing. The V3.00 firmware was never an issue for me as I have no 3rd party lenses with AF but did the update anyway. Leaving tomorrow to Kruger with V3.01 on my Z8
RoamingScott wrote:
Weird, Nikon issuing a FW update for their own FW that borked 3rd party lenses, even though it was INSISTED upon that it was the third parties to blame.
Very, very interesting
I am always open to the possibility of being wrong and it seems that I was.
It will be interesting to check whether this fix also addreses the issues initially experienced by 3rd party adapters.
It's a good idea to check camera functions after doing the 3.01 update as some settings may be altered. In my case, f6 had been switched from No to Yes by the update.
Well a more positive way to look at it is, Nikon wants to protect its brand and decided to tweak the firmware in order for third party lens makers who have not provided a firmware fix to resolve the issue. The simple fact was/is, no Z8 users with Nikkor Z lenses had any issues so yes it was a third party lens issue.
RoamingScott wrote:
Weird, Nikon issuing a FW update for their own FW that borked 3rd party lenses, even though it was INSISTED upon that it was the third parties to blame.
Do you honestly think Nikon is going to buy a whole bunch of third-party lenses all of a sudden to test them and figure out how the firmware and operation of those lenses differs from Nikon lenses in a few days after 3.00 release and then issue a quick firmware fix to the camera? It's much more likely that Nikon broke spec in rushing out the FW and they did it in a way that didn't cause problems with Nikon Z lenses.
There are reports of Nikon lenses not working with FW 3.00 though I suppose it could be that there was something wrong with the Nikon lens or adapter.
JBPhotog wrote:
Well a more positive way to look at it is, Nikon wants to protect its brand and decided to tweak the firmware in order for third party lens makers who have not provided a firmware fix to resolve the issue. The simple fact was/is, no Z8 users with Nikkor Z lenses had any issues so yes it was a third party lens issue.
RoamingScott wrote:
Weird, Nikon issuing a FW update for their own FW that borked 3rd party lenses, even though it was INSISTED upon that it was the third parties to blame.
Very, very interesting
Remember it was people first started blaming Nikon for disabling 3rd party lenses. There's a thread on DPR with a title that goes "Did Nikon Just Nuke 3rd Party Options?"
So people blamed Nikon for trying to be anti-competitive, other people say Nikon couldn't have tested things that are outside of their control, and then Nikon finally putting that argument to rest.
There is no evidence that Nikon "broke spec" when they released v3.00.
Remember the OG FTZ required firmware updates, the FTZ II does not so maybe those v1 owners had not updated their firmware but I haven't read anything about firmware v3.00 breaking Nikkor lens use.
ilkka_nissila wrote:
Do you honestly think Nikon is going to buy a whole bunch of third-party lenses all of a sudden to test them and figure out how the firmware and operation of those lenses differs from Nikon lenses in a few days after 3.00 release and then issue a quick firmware fix to the camera? It's much more likely that Nikon broke spec in rushing out the FW and they did it in a way that didn't cause problems with Nikon Z lenses.
There are reports of Nikon lenses not working with FW 3.00 though I suppose it could be that there was something wrong with the Nikon lens or adapter.
Happy to see Nikon fixed the issue on their side. Hopefully, this means all third party lenses and adapters will work as expected.
Technically, we still have no more insight as to who is at fault. It still could technically be on third party companies, but Nikon could have seen the backlash and figured out a workaround on their end to help the optics of the situation. I am sure Nikon also wants to add the focus limiter to other bodies this year. If those updates broke third party compatibility with even more models, I am sure Nikon's marketing department knows the backlash online will keep growing. Sometimes it's much easier for a company to make a change (in this case a software fix) than try to battle public opinion.