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p.6 #1 · Any thoughts on Sony’s new RX1R III?


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This thread has got me thinking about whether I want a camera to carry with me on a regular basis and if I do what sort of camera would I want. For me I would want a camera that could handle a lot of different shots that I would like to take so that got me thinking about what I would like in such a camera. Here are the major features I would like:

1) a large sensor -- Why? If I am going to have a camera with a fixed lens I want to be able to crop so
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I think you are on the right track.

I sold my Q3 28 several months ago. While I really loved shooting that camera due to its solid Leica build, good EVF, leaf shutter, great menu's and connectivity that puts Sony/Canon, Nikon to shame, the autofocus wasn't great, like my newer Sony cameras are. My Sony cameras almost never miss focus with people, while the Q3 missed a lot of shots - particularly in low-light and angled faces. Further, there is the Q3 "glitch" (requiring re-booting) that is fairly well documented and seemed to rear its head at the worst times. As a note, I had an early release model and this may have been solved, later in production.

Finally, when I compared the sharpness of my Q3 28 to my A7CR with the GM 24mm f1.4, both shot at f1.7, the Sony lens was noticeably sharper. I carefully repeated this test several times on MTF50 charts at varying distances with the same result. Of course, the excellent Summilux lens on the Q3 43 would certainly be a different story.

Having said all that, I do miss shooting that Q3. My GAS makes me want to try a Q3 43. . If a future Q4 28 update includes a better lens with improved focusing, it would be difficult for me to resist, but that is likely two years away.



Aug 13, 2025 at 10:22 AM
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p.6 #2 · Any thoughts on Sony’s new RX1R III?


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and the version that came out a decade ago still goes for $2k used.


This is all just speculation, and I probably shouldn't have started throwing numbers around because it's really hard to predict. For example, I bought my RX1R II here on the buy-and-sell board for $1,500 over three years ago. Does it make sense that it's going for $2,000 now, if we go by Sony's usual pricing patterns? The RX1 series is a bit different...kind of like Leica in that way. Prices drop sharply at first, but then they seem to settle at a certain level and just fluctuate within that range.



Aug 13, 2025 at 10:24 AM
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p.6 #3 · Any thoughts on Sony’s new RX1R III?


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A7cr with your choice of lens for the day.


If it had a better EVF, I and a full manual shutter I would be all over that option. As it is offered I am not so sure. I may go that way, but the limits of the A7Cr do make me pause.



Aug 13, 2025 at 10:50 AM
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p.6 #4 · Any thoughts on Sony’s new RX1R III?


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Can anyone with the RX1RIII comment on the quality of the EVF, specifically as compared to the RX1RII? I find the II EVF to be perfectly fine, so I'm wondering if the new one is better (or worse) in any way.


Other than easier to use because of no popup pretty much the same.One added feature is the eye cup is now usable with the fixed location




Aug 13, 2025 at 10:52 AM
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p.6 #5 · Any thoughts on Sony’s new RX1R III?


Steve Spencer wrote:
This thread has got me thinking about whether I want a camera to carry with me on a regular basis and if I do what sort of camera would I want. For me I would want a camera that could handle a lot of different shots that I would like to take so that got me thinking about what I would like in such a camera. Here are the major features I would like:

3) image stabilization and a tilt LCD -- Why? If I am going to have a camera with a fixed lens, I am not going to
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Image stabilization, I find is more of a benefit with shutter speeds between 1/15 and 1/60 far more than I sec, If I am shooting a camera with a 1sec shutter exposure and no tripod it is sitting on whatever is stable at the location. To hold a A7RV with no movement in the image at 1 sec seems pretty unreasonable even in a camera with state of the art IBIS. Also the Q3 only has OIS not IBIS so I have serious doubts it is also motion free at really long shutter speeds. Understanding that I as an old photographer and nowhere near as stable as I was when young. It is incredible how many sharp long exposure images were taken back in the age of no IBIS slow ISO film days without caring a tripod. In the city there are thousand of platforms to rest the camera on.Just my take



Aug 13, 2025 at 11:10 AM
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p.6 #6 · Any thoughts on Sony’s new RX1R III?


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Image stabilization, I find is more of a benefit with shutter speeds between 1/15 and 1/60 far more than I sec, If I am shooting a camera with a 1sec shutter exposure and no tripod it is sitting on whatever is stable at the location. To hold a A7RV with no movement in the image at 1 sec seems pretty unreasonable even in a camera with state of the art IBIS. Also the Q3 only has OIS not IBIS so I have serious doubts it is also motion free at really long shutter speeds. Understanding that I as an old
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I can hold the A7r V with a 28mm at about 1 sec or a second and a half with 3 tries with a 28mm lens and still get quite sharp images, and my hands aren't all that steady (I have a bit of a tremor). I will set the camera on something stable when it doesn't limit the composition, but I find it quite often does, so I don't find that solution all that useful, YMMV.

You are of course right about the Q3s. They only have lens based OS and people generally don't find it as useful as IBIS at the shorter focal lengths of those cameras. I am not sure how suitable and for how many situations it would stand in for a tripod. That is something I will be thinking about before I get one of those cameras.

I am unlikely to do anything soon and I could be swayed by a Sony A7Cr II that has a better viewfinder or maybe even a Fuji XPro IV if it has IBIS. Perhaps one of those will be made before I make a final decision. For now I will see how I feel about using my A7r V.



Aug 13, 2025 at 11:26 AM
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p.6 #7 · Any thoughts on Sony’s new RX1R III?


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If it had a better EVF, I and a full manual shutter I would be all over that option. As it is offered I am not so sure. I may go that way, but the limits of the A7Cr do make me pause.


Unless you want to use manual focus lenses on the A7cr, I wouldn’t care much about the viewfinder. With its great reliable AF, the viewfinder becomes a compositional tool which at its current resolution it’s just fine.



Aug 13, 2025 at 11:31 AM
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p.6 #8 · Any thoughts on Sony’s new RX1R III?


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Unless you want to use manual focus lenses on the A7cr, I wouldn’t care much about the viewfinder. With its great reliable AF, the viewfinder becomes a compositional tool which at its current resolution it’s just fine.


That is just the thing. For this purpose I would want to use it with the Voigtlander 28 f/1.5 for Sony E mount. It has a nice wide aperture and "only" weighs 320g. It is considerably smaller and lighter than any AF 28mm lens that has anything like a similar aperture. So, yes for this purpose we are talking MF 100% of the time and for that use I find I want a better EVF than the A7Cr provides.



Aug 13, 2025 at 12:15 PM
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p.6 #9 · Any thoughts on Sony’s new RX1R III?


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That is just the thing. For this purpose I would want to use it with the Voigtlander 28 f/1.5 for Sony E mount. It has a nice wide aperture and "only" weighs 320g. It is considerably smaller and lighter than any AF 28mm lens that has anything like a similar aperture. So, yes for this purpose we are talking MF 100% of the time and for that use I find I want a better EVF than the A7Cr provides.


you are looking for a 28mm, then the RX1R3 is out. You need to be stuck with the larger Q3 or GFX100RF.



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p.6 #10 · Any thoughts on Sony’s new RX1R III?


Steve Spencer wrote:
If it had a better EVF, I and a full manual shutter I would be all over that option. As it is offered I am not so sure. I may go that way, but the limits of the A7Cr do make me pause.


It's not a fully manual shutter, but if you're not a fan of the EVF on the A7CR, you'll probably feel the same about the one on the RX1R III...they're basically identical.

If you want a better EVF experience with the RX1 series, the RX1R with the dedicated external EVF is a nicer option, or you can skip electronics altogether and go with an optical viewfinder. (see image)




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p.6 #11 · Any thoughts on Sony’s new RX1R III?


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you are looking for a 28mm, then the RX1R3 is out. You need to be stuck with the larger Q3 or GFX100RF.


I would consider a fast 35mm as well, but there really aren't any fast, small, 35mm lenses that I like and even the ones I sort of like are MF. I do not like the rendering of Sony 35 f/1.8 and the Sigma 35 f/2 i-series is bigger than I would like. I do like the 35 f/2 Sonnar that comes with the RX1R series cameras. To me it is both a decent size, fast enough and I like the rendering a lot. I do wish it was better for MF. The lens isn't holding me up with considering the RX1R III, and in fact is the primary reason I am interested in it. I would prefer a 28, but a 35mm is worth considering. As described above what holds me back from the RX1R III is partly the EVF, although Fred's suggestions are interesting alternatives, and to me it is important that it lacks IBIS as at least a partial replacement of a tripod. I do like to shoot in low light with long exposures sometimes, and the camera can't do that well at all.



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p.6 #12 · Any thoughts on Sony’s new RX1R III?


Way too expensive. That's lightly used M territory. Hard pass.


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p.6 #13 · Any thoughts on Sony’s new RX1R III?


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I just found out something I hadn't realized before. The new RX1R III is 18.4mm thicker than the original RX1R (which is quite significantly), and it's also 3mm taller. It's still the smallest and lightest full-frame camera in its class, but it has definitely been gaining size over the years, kind of like what happened with the A7 series since the original A7R. Just sharing the facts, not a complaint.

To put it in perspective, the Leica M10 is only 4mm thicker than the M240, and when it came out, that small change was considered revolutionary!


Perhaps also surprising considering the larger battery, the new rx1r iii is slightly *lighter* than the previous rx1r ii (by 9g, 498g vs. 507g). Trivial, but I guess interesting. I definitely miss the built-in flash of the rx1r, here's the Godox it30pro with the awesome weather sealing of a completely exposed charging port



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p.6 #14 · Any thoughts on Sony’s new RX1R III?


That Godox does not slide on if you use the rubber eye cup so i went with the even smaller but centered Godox IT20 for the once or twice a year I would put some flash on the camera


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you are looking for a 28mm, then the RX1R3 is out. You need to be stuck with the larger Q3 or GFX100RF.

or the (smaller) RICOH GR IV, expected in the Fall.



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p.6 #16 · Any thoughts on Sony’s new RX1R III?


I ordered the Godox it20 as well after an earlier post, smaller with gels! I don't use the eye cup so the it30pro slides on easily if I'm willing to sacrifice the form factor, at least they are still jacket pocketable separately to carry as needed

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p.6 #17 · Any thoughts on Sony’s new RX1R III?


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Perhaps also surprising considering the larger battery, the new rx1r iii is slightly *lighter* than the previous rx1r ii (by 9g, 498g vs. 507g). Trivial, but I guess interesting. I definitely miss the built-in flash of the rx1r, here's the Godox it30pro with the awesome weather sealing of a completely exposed charging port

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54719031028_48762a3e5f_b.jpg

Anc_rx1riii_godox by Kalani Kāne


Yes, the RX1R III is lighter than the RX1R II. I think this is partly due to the absence of hinges for a tilting LCD and the choice of external materials, which are more in line with other Sony bodies. I just weighed my original RX1R, and it comes in at 472g with battery and SD card. I never weighed the RX1R II, but it definitely feels a bit heavier. I'm happy the RX1R III is lighter, though I still prefer the glossier finish of the earlier models. I will likely ended up with a RX1R III one day but I not in a hurry at all since I am still having a blast with the A7CR which is also a small camera.

BTW, I've tested several small external flashes for my GR III and my favorite so far is the ULANZI SL01. It offers four power levels and works really well as a fill flash. The built-in flash on the RX1R is special because it is TTL and handles everything for you automatically and you can set flash compensation.







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p.6 #18 · Any thoughts on Sony’s new RX1R III?


I actually like the new mat finish more than the old shiny one on my RX1RII, it is gripper and makes the camera more stealth


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p.6 #19 · Any thoughts on Sony’s new RX1R III?


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Yes, the RX1R III is lighter than the RX1R II. I think this is partly due to the absence of hinges for a tilting LCD and the choice of external materials, which are more in line with other Sony bodies. I just weighed my original RX1R, and it comes in at 472g with battery and SD card. I never weighed the RX1R II, but it definitely feels a bit heavier. I'm happy the RX1R III is lighter, though I still prefer the glossier finish of the earlier models. I will likely ended up with a RX1R III one day
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Interesting option! Since the rx1r iii is easily operational singlehandedly, I was considering a mounted trigger and separate small flash to hold as an off-camera flash. Any thoughts on the LightPix Labs FlashQ M20 with Transmitter on Sony?

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1752411-REG/lightpix_labs_758475335393_flashq_m20_with_transmitter.html



Aug 13, 2025 at 02:46 PM
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p.6 #20 · Any thoughts on Sony’s new RX1R III?


Fred Miranda wrote:
This is all just speculation, and I probably shouldn't have started throwing numbers around because it's really hard to predict. For example, I bought my RX1R II here on the buy-and-sell board for $1,500 over three years ago. Does it make sense that it's going for $2,000 now, if we go by Sony's usual pricing patterns? The RX1 series is a bit different...kind of like Leica in that way. Prices drop sharply at first, but then they seem to settle at a certain level and just fluctuate within that range.


you got a good deal 3 years ago. i had been looking for a while and trying to get one at that price, but they always got scooped up before i could get to them. meanwhile the sony a7 series cameras that are half the age of the rx1rii have dropped their prices much faster.



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