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p.4 #1 · Events/concerts etc


Definitely agree with step and repeat so far. Even if I’m walking around the crowded runway area. Zoom is a blessing.

I’m not sure how many times this first year, I’ll be in the theater for the longer shots. I’ll have to get more under my belt to see and to justify a 135 plena, 35-150 or 70-200. At the same time I’d rather have it when I need it rather than not and buy it later.

Tough call

I’m a few events away from affording one anyway.

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Honestly step and repeat work is better with the zooms. You never know where they will stand or how big the group is and you don't always have the time to move back and forth. Anything podium like I just use the 135 unless it's too far. You do enough you can feel things out in a way.





Jul 15, 2025 at 06:24 PM
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Since you are using a 2 camera setup and need 24mm at times, you may want to consider a 24-70 f2.8 and 70-200 f2.8 setup. That will give you the largest range of fast zoom coverage. I found f4 could be a bit slow in some event situations, granted, every venue is different.

Then, if you keep going back to the venue, you can consider adding a faster prime at a focal length you know will work well in situations. For example, where this can get complicated is say 135mm gives you the reach you want, but you end up using f4 because you need more DOF, most of the advantage of the Plena will be gone.



Jul 15, 2025 at 06:43 PM
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My goal was to get there. 70-200 is a stretch. 24-70 will take a long while on top of that. It’ll happen. So will a second z8.

So far I’ve been using f8 and raising iso at the red carpet.

Current primes are 40/2, 50 1.8, TTA 75/2, 85 1.8 and 105 macro

DWOfPaul wrote:
Since you are using a 2 camera setup and need 24mm at times, you may want to consider a 24-70 f2.8 and 70-200 f2.8 setup. That will give you the largest range of fast zoom coverage. I found f4 could be a bit slow in some event situations, granted, every venue is different.

Then, if you keep going back to the venue, you can consider adding a faster prime at a focal length you know will work well in situations. For example, where this can get complicated is say 135mm gives you the reach you want, but you end up
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Jul 15, 2025 at 06:48 PM
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My Nikon event combo is a Z9 and Z6III. Usually unless the client is going to be printing these they don't need the rez. The long glass usually goes on the Z6III for me for the better low light.
newyork wrote:
My goal was to get there. 70-200 is a stretch. 24-70 will take a long while on top of that. It’ll happen. So will a second z8.

So far I’ve been using f8 and raising iso at the red carpet.

Current primes are 40/2, 50 1.8, TTA 75/2, 85 1.8 and 105 macro






Jul 15, 2025 at 09:03 PM
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They won’t be printing. I must admit I wish I had the z6iii rather than zf to pair better with the z8 and for the better ergos. I do love the zf but mostly with MF glass or small AF glass.

JadedWriter wrote:
My Nikon event combo is a Z9 and Z6III. Usually unless the client is going to be printing these they don't need the rez. The long glass usually goes on the Z6III for me for the better low light.





Jul 15, 2025 at 09:06 PM
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That's why I got a Z6III and put a vertical grip on it. Closest I'm ever going to get to a mirrorless D5. Works very well with the Plena and 85 1.2 and 50 1.2.
newyork wrote:
They won’t be printing. I must admit I wish I had the z6iii rather than zf to pair better with the z8 and for the better ergos. I do love the zf but mostly with MF glass or small AF glass.






Jul 15, 2025 at 09:40 PM
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newyork wrote:
My goal was to get there. 70-200 is a stretch. 24-70 will take a long while on top of that. It’ll happen. So will a second z8.

So far I’ve been using f8 and raising iso at the red carpet.

Current primes are 40/2, 50 1.8, TTA 75/2, 85 1.8 and 105 macro


If you are mostly at f8 then there really is no advantage to swapping out the 24-120mm f4. It also gives you a nice overlap with the 70-200, so you don't need to switch bodies so often.

My experience was that I was using f2.8 a lot. Granted, this was mostly back in the d800 days. Our options were mostly f2.8 zooms or f5.6 zooms. Also, back then, I tried to keep the ISO to around 1,600. I was often at f2.8 and ISO 1,600. Then, if I needed more light, I would switch to the Nikon 85mm f1.4. There were times I was at f1.4 and ISO 1,600 - 3,200. If I were at f5.6 instead of f1.4 I would be at ISO 24,00 instead of 1,600, which back then I felt was basically unusable for quality photos. I also liked the subject isolation that fast apertures can give in often cluttered / distracted environments. For example, blurring out the stage lights. Admittedly, modern cameras have gotten better at High ISO photography, and modern noise reduction software has gotten much better, but I haven't really had a need to push my Z8 past ISO 6,400 so I can't say if ISO 24,000 is really usable or not today.

Hope this insight helps.



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JadedWriter wrote:
You have no idea how often I run around an event with primes. The key honestly is just having more than one body. If the event is that fast moving then I'll break out the zooms, but it doesn't happen that honestly and it mostly happens when I need either the long or short end of a prime the most. My 135 honestly gets used more than my 70-200 unless I really need 200mm. Granted nobody shoots anything remotely the same and I kind of think a lot of the zoom shooters I run into shoot things in the most
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I think it depends greatly on the type of event.
I was referring specifically to a christening ceremony in a church, where flexibility in terms of focal length was simply more important.
Moments such as the actual baptism ceremony, where I don't have time to change lenses and have to change the focal length in a very short time, as in the actual baptism, from detailed shots of the priest baptizing the child and giving the blessing to a wide-angle photo of the group with godparents and priest at the baptismal font.

If possible, I also prefer prime lenses, and the subsequent celebration was photographed with the Z 50/1.8 S, Canon FD 85/1.2 L, and the Plena, but for the actual ceremony, a zoom with a focal length range of 24-120 was the perfect tool, except that it could have been an f/2.8.
Not even for more isolation potential, the Z 24-120/4 S was perfectly adequate for the type of shots in the church, just for a little more light reserve.

Looking back at the focal lengths, I see that I used the entire focal length spectrum quite frequently.
This is not surprising, as the decisive moments are very fleeting at such a celebration, you have no influence on the actual ceremony, the atmosphere and etiquette require a more defensive, as inconspicuous as possible photographic approach, and I was unfamiliar with the location in the direct photographic context.
In my case, the zoom not only made the work easier, but also improved the yield.

Of course, you can also bring two or three camera bodies to the ceremony if you have them, but in my case, it was a favor for a friend/family member and not a commercial assignment.
During the celebration that followed, which lasted several hours, I had the freedom to work with my favorite prime lenses.
And unlike in the extremely spacious church and with the large number of photos featuring several people, group shots, the isolation potential of my primes was really needed and very helpful at the garden party.



Jul 16, 2025 at 11:12 AM
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To be honest, in the future I’d be opening up the aperture a bit. Outside with potential groups of folks posing I just stayed at f8 to make sure all was in focus. Plus the sun was out and bright.

Inside I think I’ll be playing with open apertures more next time. This time I was just green and clueless and didn’t want to touch too much. So I kept what wasn’t broken.

DWOfPaul wrote:
If you are mostly at f8 then there really is no advantage to swapping out the 24-120mm f4. It also gives you a nice overlap with the 70-200, so you don't need to switch bodies so often.

My experience was that I was using f2.8 a lot. Granted, this was mostly back in the d800 days. Our options were mostly f2.8 zooms or f5.6 zooms. Also, back then, I tried to keep the ISO to around 1,600. I was often at f2.8 and ISO 1,600. Then, if I needed more light, I would switch to the Nikon 85mm f1.4. There
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Jul 16, 2025 at 11:48 AM
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Yeah the whole thing is very event specific. I do a lot of corporate things so I basically just walk to zoom and just move around getting what I can. The whole prime thing makes that stuff fun. For specific events like things like ceremonies that you're talking about, I could see how zooms are more important. I think I did one for an ex boss and definitely used at leas one zoom, which I'm pretty sure was a 24-70 2.8. It's all dependent on shooting styles.
Vento wrote:
I think it depends greatly on the type of event.
I was referring specifically to a christening ceremony in a church, where flexibility in terms of focal length was simply more important.
Moments such as the actual baptism ceremony, where I don't have time to change lenses and have to change the focal length in a very short time, as in the actual baptism, from detailed shots of the priest baptizing the child and giving the blessing to a wide-angle photo of the group with godparents and priest at the baptismal font.

If possible, I also prefer prime lenses, and the subsequent
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Jul 16, 2025 at 12:05 PM
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p.4 #11 · Events/concerts etc


I asked this elsewhere with no response so I figured I’d do it here as it pertains to the same topic

I only have peak design cuffs for my cameras. I’m pretty over them.

I’m looking to either grab 2 peak design or similar straps and/or a double camera set up for certain events.

Thoughts?



Jul 19, 2025 at 08:14 AM
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https://www.blackrapid.com/double-breathe/

Can be split off and made into 2 singles.



Jul 19, 2025 at 11:23 AM
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I shoot a fair bit of local events for small local SF Bay Area bands. It's small venues where I can shoot up close without the stage being more than slightly elevated, but I do want at least some elevation to get that feeling of looking at a stage. I also shoot exclusively B&W, with the Z9 set to monochrome. I just find colored stage lighting looks ridiculous in color, a huge distraction while adding nothing.

Here's the settings I use:
2 CFE or XQD cards, fill slot 1 then 2
Z9 set to monochrome picture
Shoot medium JPEG and RAW side by side, this way I get lots of JPEGs I can use to sort through or send to people
20 fps, max 4 frames per burst - this lets me get 4 very close shots each time I press the shutter, lets me pick based on expression, exact juxtapositioning, etc
35/1.8 and 85/1.8, I'll switch and do about half of each band with each - the 35 gets the whole stage while the 85 gets closer ups
Both at f/4, for the 35 this means good DoF, for the 85 some measure of isolation
M 1/180, to freeze motion, but rapid movement still blurs a little, more so with the 85 than 35
Auto ISO
2800K WB
Big wide area AF with human facial/eye detection, on AF-ON; lets me place the giant box on a head and hit AF-ON to track face and eye focus, with plenty of compositional/framing leeway
AF-C
Matrix exposure with +0.5/+1 EV adjustment, but I'll take a few shots and see. I allow stage lights and speculars to fully blow out while keeping the subject visible.

JPEGs are used for quick contacts and selection based on basic visuals.
RAWs are converted in DxO PhotoLab and Silver eFex Pro, in particular Deep Prime NR is very helpful. (I use an old version but haven't seen a huge reason to upgrade.)
I always lift the shadows a little in post as they get very inky.

Also, make sure to run the pixel mapping at least once if you never have!

I don't use a strap, instead I carry the camera, lenses, a spare EN-EL18 battery (which I've never needed!), and card clamshell along with a small flashlight and dust blower in a Think Tank Retrospective 7 shoulder bag; the camera has a hand strap, but otherwise I don't like straps as they only get in the way. I use the bag strap bandolier style, which makes it easy to push it over onto my back and out of the way. When I take a break from shooting I stick the camera with lens in the bag; it's a pretty snug fit.

The Z9 is a truly epic camera.

Here's what the JPEGs look like! (Sorry, the link is remote and perhaps not the most reliable; I'm not currently paying for Upload & Sell.)






Jul 20, 2025 at 07:40 PM
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p.4 #14 · Events/concerts etc


Thank you!!! Really cool info. I will say, I almost got the z9 instead of the z8. I wouldn’t mind the combo of z9/z8 one day if not z8/z6iii with the zf as edc only (I still lust for leicas in this spot despite having and selling 2 in 18 months lol)



Jan Brittenson wrote:

I shoot a fair bit of local events for small local SF Bay Area bands. It's small venues where I can shoot up close without the stage being more than slightly elevated, but I do want at least some elevation to get that feeling of looking at a stage. I also shoot exclusively B&W, with the Z9 set to monochrome. I just find colored stage lighting looks ridiculous in color, a huge distraction while adding nothing.

Here's the settings I use:
2 CFE or XQD cards, fill slot 1 then 2
Z9 set to monochrome picture
Shoot medium JPEG and RAW side by
...Show more



Jul 20, 2025 at 08:23 PM
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