p.1 #1 · I wonder if Adobe will ever use the neural engine again for denoise
Batch denoise in Lightroom is so slow now, compared to how it was when they had the neural engine active. Do you think Adobe will ever get it back up and running?
p.1 #2 · I wonder if Adobe will ever use the neural engine again for denoise
It seems unlikely - possible, but I wouldn't bet on it - as they did give it a try after seemingly resolving the initial quality issues that led to it's initial delay, but after discovering more problems it seems to be on-the-shelf with no further word of anything underway to resolve.
Personally, although I found the LR de-noise function to work well for images being processed in LR, after comparing the image quality from LR with de-noise to that which I'm getting from Capture One without any extra processing, and without generating a secondary DNG file that's twice the size of the original HE* raw file from a Z9, I've given up on LR for most of my work other than using it to share images rendered in Capture One.
IMHO, LR de-noise is required to get results that compare well to "native" results directly from Capture One in its current form. Perhaps LR with de-noise is slightly better at a pixel-level, but what I get from Capture One is so much better than what I see from LR without de-noise, that it seems as though de-noise is non-optional for good image quality from LR.
p.1 #3 · I wonder if Adobe will ever use the neural engine again for denoise
davidrwilliams wrote:
It seems unlikely - possible, but I wouldn't bet on it - as they did give it a try after seemingly resolving the initial quality issues that led to it's initial delay, but after discovering more problems it seems to be on-the-shelf with no further word of anything underway to resolve.
Personally, although I found the LR de-noise function to work well for images being processed in LR, after comparing the image quality from LR with de-noise to that which I'm getting from Capture One without any extra processing, and without generating a secondary DNG file that's twice the size of the original HE* raw file from a Z9, I've given up on LR for most of my work other than using it to share images rendered in Capture One.
p.1 #4 · I wonder if Adobe will ever use the neural engine again for denoise
davidrwilliams wrote:
It seems unlikely - possible, but I wouldn't bet on it - as they did give it a try after seemingly resolving the initial quality issues that led to it's initial delay, but after discovering more problems it seems to be on-the-shelf with no further word of anything underway to resolve.
Personally, although I found the LR de-noise function to work well for images being processed in LR, after comparing the image quality from LR with de-noise to that which I'm getting from Capture One without any extra processing, and without generating a secondary DNG file that's twice the size of the original HE* raw file from a Z9, I've given up on LR for most of my work other than using it to share images rendered in Capture One.
IMHO, LR de-noise is required to get results that compare well to "native" results directly from Capture One in its current form. Perhaps LR with de-noise is slightly better at a pixel-level, but what I get from Capture One is so much better than what I see from LR without de-noise, that it seems as though de-noise is non-optional for good image quality from LR. ...Show more →
I love C1 and am a diehard user. That said for heavy ISO noise, the denoise I now get in the latest PS blows the latest C1 away. I export my C1 file edited to taste with default C1 NR as a full-size psd to PS, then open, Filter>Camera Raw Filters>Details, then tweak the sliders to taste, massive improvement over C1. And it’s very fast, so perhaps using ram and/or GPU better than LR, IDK? BUT obviously batching now requires another step, so there is that.
p.1 #5 · I wonder if Adobe will ever use the neural engine again for denoise
Jack Flesher wrote:
I love C1 and am a diehard user. That said for heavy ISO noise, the denoise I now get in the latest PS blows the latest C1 away. I export my C1 file edited to taste with default C1 NR as a full-size psd to PS, then open, Filter>Camera Raw Filters>Details, then tweak the sliders to taste, massive improvement over C1. And it’s very fast, so perhaps using ram and/or GPU better than LR, IDK? BUT obviously batching now requires another step, so there is that.
