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p.1 #1 · So what is your system of choice for wildlife/nature?


Im asking as I have spent the last 6 months volunteering at my local nature reserve and have really enjoyed it. This obviously led to how can I document this and also learn how to capture some of the amazing things I have seen.

I have a Nikon Zf, I don't own any AF lenses, my Zf has been my fun MF camera. However I do now want some AF lenses.

Initially I have 2 requirements, I want to dive into macro as there are some really cool plants/fungi/textures that I would love to play around with. I think I could get some really creative shots, and I want to take advantage of the Zf's focus stacking capability, I am not interested in a MF macro lens.
The Nikon macro is very well regarded.

There is also a chance of kingfishers appearing at this reserve, it isn't guaranteed but it does happen occasionally and I would love to capture that. So I will need a zoom, maybe a 100-400, or maybe the 180mm to 600mm. To be honest, the longest zoom I have ever owned was my Sony 24-105 so at the moment I have no idea how much reach I actually need for this. Birding is a completely new thing for me.

Someone suggested micro 4/3 to me, this could get expensive, another camera, but good lenses, alot lighter, more reach due to the crop factor, but not a cost saving as the good 4/3 lenses are as expensive as their full frame equivalents.
I would also be losing a few stops in light and have to deal with a smaller sensor

Anyone running a 2nd system purely for wildlife?

I just want to check before I buy the Nikon macro lens that this is the way to go, as then I am committed to buying whatever Nikons options are for a birding/wildlife zoom as well.



Jun 05, 2025 at 12:20 PM
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p.1 #2 · So what is your system of choice for wildlife/nature?


I use Canon, but Nikon has a number of great lenses for wildlife, so you should find what you need. Birds are pretty small, so I'm usually in the 600mm to 1100mm range (cropped), so a 100-400mm is a little short on a 24mp full frame sensor. It depends on how big the birds are and how tame they are. If you like more "birds in the environment shots," shorter focal lengths work fine. I started with a 70-200mm on a crop sensor, and as I look back on those shots, I still like them a lot. The Nikon 180-600mm looks like a great choice, but I haven't used that lens.


Jun 05, 2025 at 01:08 PM
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p.1 #3 · So what is your system of choice for wildlife/nature?




osidesurfer wrote:
I use Canon, but Nikon has a number of great lenses for wildlife, so you should find what you need. Birds are pretty small, so I'm usually in the 600mm to 1100mm range (cropped), so a 100-400mm is a little short on a 24mp full frame sensor. It depends on how big the birds are and how tame they are. If you like more "birds in the environment shots," shorter focal lengths work fine. I started with a 70-200mm on a crop sensor, and as I look back on those shots, I still like them a lot. The Nikon 180-600mm
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Thank you for that.
2 things stood out for me from your post, 600-1100 and cropped.
I think I need to think about my birding options a bit as I am not in the market for a higher res FF camera



Jun 05, 2025 at 02:09 PM
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p.1 #4 · So what is your system of choice for wildlife/nature?


wastedimages wrote:
Thank you for that.
2 things stood out for me from your post, 600-1100 and cropped.
I think I need to think about my birding options a bit as I am not in the market for a higher res FF camera


Just to be clear on the focal length, the 600-1100 that I mentioned is the full frame focal length equivalent after any cropping. That represents my needs, but others may be different. When I don't use a tripod, I use a 100-400mm on a 45mp full frame sensor body. I typically need to crop to APS-C or tighter in most situations. Ideally, I would want a 100-500mm or a 180-600mm when I hand hold, and I would anticipate cropping with those. An APS-C crop on a 24mm full frame body puts you in the 10mp range, which may be good enough or not depending on what you want.



Jun 05, 2025 at 03:10 PM
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p.1 #5 · So what is your system of choice for wildlife/nature?


Hello,
I'm a nature photographer and I have been one since the 1980's. My work has taken many paths that included shooting for stock in the 1990's to early 2000's, writing for magazines/blogs, and doing shows in galleries. I share this with you, because the term "nature photographer" is very broad. Included in the field is nature details, species-specific macro, landscape, wildlife, conservation, special projects and so on.
Based on your post, I would not recommend a macro lens for your first all purpose nature lens. There are other lenses out there that will allow you to do closeup photography while also shooting some of the general things you are seeking to do. In addition, because you seem to want to do some closeup detail work, I would NOT recommend any of the super-zooms... they are good lenses, but limit you a bit when it comes to near-macro photography.
Personally, if I were interested in "general" nature photography and wanted to build a simple and universal kit, I would go for something like the 24-120 f/4 and 100-400S w/ 1.4x converter in the Nikon world. For Sony, there is a similar set and in Canon there is the 24-105 and 100-500. For the latter, you could forgo the converter.
In the kits with the 100-400, the converter will give you increased magnification for both wildlife and close-up photography. Cropping and the 1.4x will allow you to make a 1:1 (life size) picture. If you are serious about doing details/macro, I suggest you invest in a good tripod and remote/cable release. Macro photography requires that you minimize your physical movement of the camera. While VR will help, it often leads to sloppy macro compositions when shooting handheld.
Finally, ALL the major camera brands (All = Canon, Fuji, Nikon, Olympus (OM), Panasonic, and Sony) will get you to where you want ago... find a brand that feels comfortable to use and meets your aspirational needs should you decide to invest more deeply into your kit.
cheers,
bruce

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Jun 06, 2025 at 10:36 AM
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p.1 #6 · So what is your system of choice for wildlife/nature?


You didn't mention a budget. You can get a setup for a modest amount or you can spend a lot of money, especially for bird photography.

You should also consider the size and weight of any potential lenses. Are you going to handhold or use a tripod or both. Bigger lenses require sturdier tripods and heads if you plan to use a tripod. How much weight are you comfortable handholding? Are you going to carry multiple lenses with you? Do you want a single lens for both macro and wildlife or do you want more specialized lenses for both? Just some things to think about. When I consider a lens for wildlife/bird photography I look at size, weight, cost, image quality, speed (aperture), and how well does it balance with my camera body, and whether it is something that I'm willing to walk around and shoot hand held.

I agree with the above advice to use a tripod with macro. For static shots, every shot will be in focus and composed exactly as you like it. Of course, it may not be possible to position a tripod or you may need to move frequently (e.g., for butterflies). Some people just don't like using tripods.



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p.1 #7 · So what is your system of choice for wildlife/nature?


wastedimages wrote:
I just want to check before I buy the Nikon macro lens that this is the way to go, as then I am committed to buying whatever Nikons options are for a birding/wildlife zoom as well.


The Nikon Z 105mm f2.8 S macro is a terrific lens, probably the sharpest in that range out of all the mirrorless brands. However, I gave up using Nikon for macro because it ties you to using a tripod, as I almost always use focus bracketing/stacking for shooting macro, and Nikon cameras disable the viewfinder and rear LCD screen when you use focus bracketing.

With my Canon R5, I can easily shoot 5 or 10-frame focus brackets hand-held using the camera's image stabilization, and see what I'm aiming at while I'm shooting. My Sony A7RV had the same capability, but with less effective image stabilization.

If you're slow and methodical and always carry a tripod, the Nikon system is great, but I prefer the flexibility of being able to shoot hand-held if I choose.



Jun 06, 2025 at 06:32 PM
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p.1 #8 · So what is your system of choice for wildlife/nature?


wastedimages wrote:
Anyone running a 2nd system purely for wildlife?

I just want to check before I buy the Nikon macro lens that this is the way to go, as then I am committed to buying whatever Nikons options are for a birding/wildlife zoom as well.


Though some people may split hairs with various 100/105mm macro/micro lenses the newer ones are all going to be excellent lenses with some differences such as focal length and subject distance at MFD. For living subjects I prefer 150/180/200mm that are no longer made unfortunately, but that is another story.

The range of tele lenses is what sets the makers apart and you have numerous options with Nikon.
The main issue with your Zf for wildlife is the relatively low resolution that requires a longer lens to get enough reach (pixels per duck). For example, a 45MP camera and a 100-400 will achieve within 10% of the reach of a 24MP camera and a 180-600. There is also less opportunity for cropping from the Zf. So you see where I'm going that 45MP would be a better body choice.

Back to the original question, I do have a 2nd setup purely for wildlife consisting of mostly the a7RV and 200-600. That is for the specific purposes when I can only handle about that much and am not able to change lenses. At the time the 180-600 did not exist and I also like the 61MP sensor for reach. I do use a bunch of other Canon gear like 100-400 or 100-500 and 500/4 or 600/4, so it is just another alternative. I like having about 7 different setups tailored for different purposes, depending on the country and location.

EBH



Jun 07, 2025 at 12:13 AM
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p.1 #9 · So what is your system of choice for wildlife/nature?


I'd suggest looking at the Nature & Wildlife forum on this site. There are a lot of good photographers there, and the shots that they post usually have metadata below them, so you can see what camera and lens was used. Of course, you don't know how much they cropped. Not that you need to spend as much on gear, but it will give you a good idea of the focal lengths that are being used.

Also, I think you will get a lot more feedback in the Nikon forum or the above forum.



Jun 07, 2025 at 01:15 PM
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p.1 #10 · So what is your system of choice for wildlife/nature?


wastedimages wrote:
Im asking as I have spent the last 6 months volunteering at my local nature reserve and have really enjoyed it. This obviously led to how can I document this and also learn how to capture some of the amazing things I have seen.

I have a Nikon Zf, I don't own any AF lenses, my Zf has been my fun MF camera. However I do now want some AF lenses.

Initially I have 2 requirements, I want to dive into macro as there are some really cool plants/fungi/textures that I would love to play around with. I think I could get
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I photograph a lot of things, but for my wildlife/landscape/wildlife photography, my full kit includes the following — all Canon unless l otherwise indicated:

5DsR*
EF 16-55mm f/4
EF 24-70mmm f/2.8
EF 70-200mm f/4
EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6
1.4x TC
EF 100mm f/2.8 macro
A Pentax 80-160mm zoom used with a Mirex T/S adapter

Much of my wildlife photography is larger migratory birds — geese, cranes, Ibises, herons. For them 400mm is usually enough, and the 1.4x TC gets me to 560mm if I need it.

Is that ong enough for the smaller birds? Hard to say, since it depends on how you photograph and how much stuff you are willing to buy/carry. I will say that sometimes the ability to photograph the smaller birds is more about how you approach them than about the length of the lens — patience, stealth, and knowledge are your friends here.

I’d really recommend that you not try to rely on MF lenses for bird photography. Sure, you can do that, and people did it for years back in the 20th century. In general, these days I’d go for an AF lens in virtually all cases since you can still MF if you need to… and contemporary AF lenses are every bit as good as MF lenses. (For pure landscape photography done from the tripod, there might be a stronger case for being willing to really on MF-only lenses, but still…)

Good luck.

* Since someone may well bring it up, let me explain about using the “obsolete” Canon 5DsR when newer cameras exist. In fact, newer Canon R bodies have improved AF and other features that could be useful for bird photography. First, the 5DsR is still an excellent performer for my landscape photoraphy. Second, I don’t rely on super high speed burst for my wildlife photography. (I have a second system that does burst faster… and I am not persuaded.) Third, I’m considering moving to an entirely different system (quite possibly not Canon), so I’m stretching out the lifespan of the current gear while I consider my options.



Jun 08, 2025 at 05:45 AM
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p.1 #11 · So what is your system of choice for wildlife/nature?


I'm one of Those People who use a separate system for wildlife/birds (and some macro). Had a very substantial Nikon Z setup but before taking off on a week long birding trip I decided to give M43 a go, went all-in with an OM-1 + 150-400 and haven't looked back since. Of course the 150-400 isn't necessary, you could do pretty darn well with the 300/4 or 200/2.8 + 1.4x as well, or even the 100-400 options. Anyway, love the system and love the results. I still have FF gear but that's for other purposes.


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