Just put in my pre-order for the software, can I ask how do you guys incorporate DxO into your workflow, I just normally bring everything into LR and start there, but I've been hearing pretty nice reviews of DxO software
Thanks in advance
Bob
I use Photoshop, but the principles can still be applied to some degree.
First I convert from RAW to DNG with DxO, then from DNG to PSD. I keep a copy at each stage: if necessary, I can go back to any stage along the way. The DNG file comes directly from the RAW file. Any actual adjustments are made to the Photoshop file, not during the RAW conversion.
(Lightroom adjustments are sequential: if you make 10 adjustments and want to revisit number 3 later on, you loose adjustments 4 through 10. Photoshop, if we use layers, is asynchronous: any adjustment can be... re-adjusted.. at any time.)
As newer versions of DxO have been released, I have occasionally gone back and re-converted, then re-applied or changed the adjustments in Photoshop. This is mostly when dealing with images made with older, noisier sensors, like my Sony NEX-7 from 2012.
I forgot to mention that when converting from DNG to Photoshop format (after using DxO to make the DNG file), I use a linear profile, not one of the Adobe profiles like Adobe Color, Adobe Standard, etc. This gets the maximum dynamic range out of the image. See Linear Profiles: Natural Tones.
EB-1 wrote:
Why a Pre-order for software
It's not like a physical object with limited supply. They can make as many software licenses as needed. I will wait.
EBH
At the very least, I would wait until they release some actual details about the software as in comparisons with the old versions. As of now all we know is that it's a new version.
EB-1 wrote:
So I confirmed that DXO PL8 is older than purely RAW 5. It seems there should be PL9 , but maybe it will be too late.
EBH
Both pureraw and photolab are updated roughly once a year.
But pureraw is updated about 6 months before photolab- and gets the newest denoise protocols. They usually make a couple other improvements- which filter down to photolab 6 months later.
gary
whumber wrote:
At the very least, I would wait until they release some actual details about the software as in comparisons with the old versions. As of now all we know is that it's a new version.
They do list a number of improvements/new features/revamped UI on their website for version 5. But, I agree that I don't see a reason to pay now prior to it being released. I'll do a trial/demo version once it's released to see if the upgrade makes sense for me.
gchappel wrote:
Both pureraw and photolab are updated roughly once a year.
But pureraw is updated about 6 months before photolab- and gets the newest denoise protocols. They usually make a couple other improvements- which filter down to photolab 6 months later.
gary
Somehow I thought it was the other way around. If there is a PL9 then we should be able to predict if it will be be any better for NR based on the same processing design as PR5, is that correct?
EB-1 wrote:
Somehow I thought it was the other way around. If there is a PL9 then we should be able to predict if it will be be any better for NR based on the same processing design as PR5, is that correct?
EBH
AFAIK the noise reduction algorithms are the same between PR4 and PL8. PR5 and PL9 (likely in October) will be the same also.
Somehow I thought it was the other way around. If there is a PL9 then we should be able to predict if it will be be any better for NR based on the same processing design as PR5, is that correct?
EBH
That is my understanding- the newer protocols have been released with pureraw first- and then added to the next major update of photolab.
DeepprimeXD I believe was released in PR4, then passed down to PL8 last fall.
Hopefully there is some new processes in PR5. We will know in a couple weeks.
gary
DxO PhotoLab 8.5 includes the third generation of DxO’s original neural-network-powered RAW processing engine for Bayer and X-Trans sensors. Four years ago, DxO pioneered the use of machine learning to perform denoising and demosaicing simultaneously, unlocking the potential of AI and far exceeding man-made algorithms. Today, DeepPRIME 3 incorporates a third process: residual chromatic shifts at a pixel level. Thanks to the data it draws from DxO’s exclusive DxO Modules, DeepPRIME 3 resolves chromatic aberration as part of the RAW conversion process. In addition, users get a significant boost in image quality while also saving time. DeepPRIME 3 is faster than ever.
Introducing DeepPRIME XD3 X-Trans Beta
As an extension of DeepPRIME, DxO’s DeepPRIME XD — ‘eXtra Detail’ — engine was introduced in DxO PhotoLab 6 to offer the most intense processing of the most demanding files. Since then, it has progressed, promising incredible results for images captured at ISO levels that had previously been considered unusable. For owners of Fujifilm cameras, DxO is proud to introduce DeepPRIME XD3 X-Trans Beta, giving X-Trans photographers early access to the next generation of noise reduction and detail extraction. (The fifth generation of X-Trans sensors is not yet supported.) At the express request of Fujifilm, we have revised how the Fujifilm digital film renderings function in our software. These renderings now apply exclusively to RAF files from Fujifilm cameras and only correspond to the simulations available on those cameras.
Fuji PROVIA/STANDARD
Fuji Velvia/VIVID
Fuji ASTIA/SOFT
Fuji CLASSIC CHROME
Fuji CLASSIC CHROME +
Fuji PRO Neg. Hi
Fuji PRO Neg. Std
Fuji CLASSIC Neg.
Fuji ETERNA/CINEMA
Fuji ETERNA BLEACH BYPASS
Fuji SEPIA
Fuji Nostalgic Neg
New supported cameras
DJI Air 3S
OM System OM 3
Panasonic Lumix DC-G97
Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS99/TZ99
Bug Fixes and Improvements
So if it is faster, maybe I don't need to buy a 5080?
Does this 8.5 mean that 9 will later than usual? I am still on 7 and wondering when to get a new version.
The licensing is terrible (not user manged like normal software) so I'm more likely to buy a full version.
I watched this review and it would seem that the "step backwards" is somewhat intentional but optional. The new PR5 extra detail option is on par with the one from PR4 but the PR5 base option is less aggressive compared to the PR4 base option.
