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p.2 #1 · What Zeiss lenses have the most Zeiss "magic"?


A few taken with Sony RX1 Sonnar 35/2, Otus 100/1.4, and Otus 28/1.4




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  NIKON D850    Zeiss Otus 1.4/28 ZF.2 (Nikon F) lens    28mm    f/4.0    1/1250s    64 ISO    -1.3 EV  




Mar 17, 2025 at 11:22 PM
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p.2 #2 · What Zeiss lenses have the most Zeiss "magic"?


My favorite Zeiss landscape lens is the Loxia 21mm f/2.8.

For a lens with character it is an old MC Flektogon 35mm f/2.4 Carl Zeiss Jena DDR.




Mar 17, 2025 at 11:46 PM
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p.2 #3 · What Zeiss lenses have the most Zeiss "magic"?


ocean2059 wrote:
A few taken with Sony RX1 Sonnar 35/2, Otus 100/1.4, and Otus 28/1.4


For me, the one with the tree is the first landscape / no people shot here that actually shows this 3d ish pop effect.



Mar 18, 2025 at 05:12 AM
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p.2 #4 · What Zeiss lenses have the most Zeiss "magic"?


ocean2059 wrote:
A few taken with Sony RX1 Sonnar 35/2, Otus 100/1.4, and Otus 28/1.4


The 4th one with the tree I see a park style sign, definitely in a park, where was that taken?



Mar 18, 2025 at 10:21 AM
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p.2 #5 · What Zeiss lenses have the most Zeiss "magic"?


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The 4th one with the tree I see a park style sign, definitely in a park, where was that taken?


It was taken at the Manassas National Battlefield Park in Manassas, Virginia: Manassas: https://www.nps.gov/mana/index.htm

I live close to the park and go for morning/afternoon walks over weekends frequently.



Mar 18, 2025 at 10:34 AM
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p.2 #6 · What Zeiss lenses have the most Zeiss "magic"?


My personal favorites are:

• Planar 50/1.4 (ZF, ZE mount) – Beautiful painterly rendering
• Distagon 35/1.4 – The best 35/1.4 for M-mount
• Biogon 35/2 – I like the character and micro-contrast for both M and E-mount
• Sonnar 135/2 APO (ZF, ZE mount) or the 135/2.8 APO for E-mount



Mar 18, 2025 at 11:20 AM
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p.2 #7 · What Zeiss lenses have the most Zeiss "magic"?


I think there are several things that characterize different Zeiss lenses

First, I think it is generally high level contrast and specifically microcontrast. Lenses that I have owned and that I think fit this characterization include:

Milvus 18 f/2.8, C/Y 21 f/2.8, Loxia 21 f/2.8 ZE/ZF 25 f/2, Loxia 25 f/2.8, Otus 28 f/1.4, ZM 35 f/1.4, Milvus 35 f/1.4, Contax 645 35 f/3.5, ZE/ZF/Milvus 50 f/2 Macro, Otus 55 f/1.4, Loxia 85 f/2.4, ZM 85 f/4, ZE/ZF/Mivus 100 f/2 Macro, C/Y 100 f/3.5, ZE/ZF/Milvus 135 f/2 APO, Sony/Zeiss 135 f/1.8

Second, I think some Zeiss lenses have been highly corrected for CA and have had really nice bokeh. Lenses that I have owned that fit this characterization include:

Otus 28 f/1.4, Otus 55 f/1.4, Contax 645 120 f/4 APO Macro, ZE/ZF Milvus 135 f/2 APO, Hasselblad C 250 f/5.6 Superachromat

Third I think some Zeiss lenses have been noteworthy for there close focus performance especially at wide apertures. Lenese that I have owned that fit this characterization include:

ZE/ZF 25 f/2, Hasselblad 40 f/4 IF CFE, ZE/ZF/Milvus 50 f/2 Macro, ZE/ZF/MIlvus 100 f/2 Macro, Contax 645 120 f/4 APO Macro, ZE/ZF/Milvus 135 f/2 APO

Fourth, I think some Zeiss lenses have a dual character with softer images wide open with a fair bit of spherical aberrations that clear as the lens is stopped down and then they become very sharp at narrower apertures. Lenses I have owned with that fit this characterization include:

ZE/ZE 35 f/1.4, Contax 645 55 f/3.5,, Contax 645 80 f/2, Milvus 85 f/1.4

My personal favorites are:

ZE/ZF 25 f/2
Otus 28 f/1.4
Contax 645 55 f/3.5
Otus 55 f/1.4
Loxia 85 f/2.4
ZE/ZF/Milvus 100 f/2 Macro
Contax 645 120 f/4 APO Macro
ZE/ZF/Milvus 135 f/2 APO
Sony/Zeiss 135 f/1.8
Hasselblad C 250 f/5.6 Superachromat



Mar 18, 2025 at 12:37 PM
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p.2 #8 · What Zeiss lenses have the most Zeiss "magic"?


Steve Spencer wrote:
I think there are several things that characterize different Zeiss lenses

First, I think it is generally high level contrast and specifically microcontrast. Lenses that I have owned and that I think fit this characterization include:

Milvus 18 f/2.8, C/Y 21 f/2.8, Loxia 21 f/2.8 ZE/ZF 25 f/2, Loxia 25 f/2.8, Otus 28 f/1.4, ZM 35 f/1.4, Milvus 35 f/1.4, Contax 645 35 f/3.5, ZE/ZF/Milvus 50 f/2 Macro, Otus 55 f/1.4, Loxia 85 f/2.4, ZM 85 f/4, ZE/ZF/Mivus 100 f/2 Macro, C/Y 100 f/3.5, ZE/ZF/Milvus 135 f/2 APO, Sony/Zeiss 135 f/1.8

Second, I think some Zeiss lenses have been highly corrected for
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Have you ever used zm lenses in 25, 35 focal lengths ?



Mar 18, 2025 at 01:14 PM
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p.2 #9 · What Zeiss lenses have the most Zeiss "magic"?


modlin wrote:
Have you ever used zm lenses in 25, 35 focal lengths ?


I have used the ZM 35 f/1.4 and included it in my first category.



Mar 18, 2025 at 01:25 PM
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p.2 #10 · What Zeiss lenses have the most Zeiss "magic"?


Steve Spencer wrote:
I have used the ZM 35 f/1.4 and included it in my first category.

I missed that...
What is your opinion re zm lens vs. distagon ze 35 or milvus ze 35 (which I own)?




Mar 18, 2025 at 01:35 PM
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p.2 #11 · What Zeiss lenses have the most Zeiss "magic"?


modlin wrote:
I missed that...
What is your opinion re zm lens vs. distagon ze 35 or milvus ze 35 (which I own)?



The ZM 35 f/1.4 is an interesting lens with a lot of sharpness and microcontrast. It is more like the Milvus 35 f/14 than the ZE 35 f/1.4. The ZE has a lot of aberrations wide open including, quite a bit of axial CA, quite a bit of coma, some field curvature, and quite a bit of spherical aberrations, but most of the aberrations clear as the lens is stopped down, so it is more of the last category of lens. The ZM has fewer aberrations even wide open (except it still has a moderate amount of axial CA). The ZM is also a lot smaller than the ZE or Milvus 35 f/1.4, but you probably already knew that.



Mar 18, 2025 at 02:35 PM
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p.2 #12 · What Zeiss lenses have the most Zeiss "magic"?


I agree re distagon 35 1.4...thats why I bought milvus, which is an improved design...it is big, but hey, I dont mind at all


Mar 18, 2025 at 05:57 PM
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p.2 #13 · What Zeiss lenses have the most Zeiss "magic"?


Loxia 21
Loxia 25
Loxia 85
Batis 135
All Otus lenses
Milvus 21
Milvus 135



Mar 19, 2025 at 08:06 AM
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p.2 #14 · What Zeiss lenses have the most Zeiss "magic"?


My favorite was always the Zeiss 35/2 in ZE mount. Loads of 3d pop.


Mar 19, 2025 at 11:08 AM
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p.2 #15 · What Zeiss lenses have the most Zeiss "magic"?


Thanks for the replies everyone! Great list.

Is the ZE 35/2 the exact same as the ZF? Did it come in any other mounts (I doubt it)? And is the ZE/ZF 35/2 mostly the same as the Milvus 35/2? I think I read that somewhere.

Given the amount of love for that lens and the 35 pop, I'm interested in trying it.



Mar 19, 2025 at 03:26 PM
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weezintrumpete wrote:
Thanks for the replies everyone! Great list.

Is the ZE 35/2 the exact same as the ZF? Did it come in any other mounts (I doubt it)? And is the ZE/ZF 35/2 mostly the same as the Milvus 35/2? I think I read that somewhere.

Given the amount of love for that lens and the 35 pop, I'm interested in trying it.


ZE/ZF Classic and ZE/ZF Milvus same optical formula. The Milvus has slightly different coating and weather sealing.



Mar 19, 2025 at 04:28 PM
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p.2 #17 · What Zeiss lenses have the most Zeiss "magic"?


Here is the rundown for all classic vs milvus lenses and how they were updated/changed...

https://cop-community.zeiss.com/s/article/Are-there-differences-in-performance-between-ZEISS-Milvus-and-ZEISS-Classic-lenses?language=en_US&productGroup=Photo_Lenses



Mar 19, 2025 at 05:54 PM
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p.2 #18 · What Zeiss lenses have the most Zeiss "magic"?


I had a much longer response I typed up, but I don’t want to bore people.

In terms of 3D Zeiss I have used;

ZM 35/1.4
ZA 50/1.4
ZF 35/2

I haven’t owned 40/2 or CY 85/1.2, but those seem to have a lot of depth.



Mar 20, 2025 at 01:22 AM
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p.2 #19 · What Zeiss lenses have the most Zeiss "magic"?


I had the ZM 35/1.4 that I used with a techart adapter adapter on my Sony A7Rii in 2016. I sold that lens because the adapter would let the camera auto focus the lens only about 25% of the time, but I always regretted selling it because to me there was something special about its images. I hadn't remembered that until I came across that thread.

Here are several examples. Not sure why SmugMug's information says it was a Canon lens since the only Canon gear I ever used was an AE1 in the early 80's.

https://photos.smugmug.com/Travel/2016-12-Budapest-Danube-River/i-mgz3FMv/0/LV9cx88HZxVXkhzCg3xhHB5PbCR3Cxfms6ZXfkB8H/X3/DSC00993-X3.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Travel/2016-12-Budapest-Danube-River/i-RKb59jL/0/L462MpbRFcPVdbmHdgmp25pf7tKpWCmnKgKhSCQk5/X3/DSC01041-X3.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Travel/2016-12-Budapest-Danube-River/i-6qWXWsk/0/MLTWgQPJbdKrft4HPNqGBQWV8Jf2wQKQZqxCVfC6b/X3/DSC01869-X3.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Travel/2016-12-Budapest-Danube-River/i-KGKZtRq/0/NPNd8qVT42fcQj5TXm9w8xwhffkn9G6qXH9bXMwg2/X3/DSC02005-X3.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Travel/2016-12-Budapest-Danube-River/i-PCTpw2F/0/LPXwJzMVmbSMB4XjkCTKV7DGZfXxLGMcMGQB8w6Fg/X3/DSC02219_1-X3.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Travel/2016-12-Budapest-Danube-River/i-gmkv5Lg/0/LHGsXXtrDT4kTKw3GVFhLKQfKJCmpzTJSrPkrH6KZ/X3/DSC02266-X3.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Travel/2016-12-Budapest-Danube-River/i-8Wj2WGq/0/LF8GjSsmJ2LsxTzxPxdJtTHvt7d4T7cQZcW4Qms9K/X3/DSC03030-X3.jpg




Mar 20, 2025 at 04:33 AM
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brick33308 wrote:
I had the ZM 35/1.4 that I used with a techart adapter adapter on my Sony A7Rii in 2016. I sold that lens because the adapter would let the camera auto focus the lens only about 25% of the time, but I always regretted selling it because to me there was something special about its images.....



auto focus??
this is a manual focus lens only.....did you mean find / lock in focus 25%?



Mar 20, 2025 at 10:22 AM
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