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p.1 #1 · What Zeiss lenses have the most Zeiss "magic"?


Some people might not think Zeiss lenses have anything special - this thread is not for those people

What Zeiss lenses show off the best Zeiss qualities that they are known for? Old, new, C/Y, Sony, M-mount, whatever.

What do you think?



Mar 16, 2025 at 11:06 PM
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p.1 #2 · What Zeiss lenses have the most Zeiss "magic"?


Some highlights off the top of my head:

80mm f/2.8 Planar for Rolleiflex and Hasselblad
10.5cm f/4,5 Tessar on Zeiss Ikon Ikonta
50mm f/1.5 Sonnar on Contax
180mm f/2.8 and 300mm f/4 "Zebra" Sonnar on Pentacon Six
50mm f/1.5 C Sonnar ZM
38mm f/4.5 Biogon on Hasselblad SWC
35mm f/3.5 Tessar on Yashica T4
45mm f/2 Planar on Contax G



Mar 17, 2025 at 12:36 AM
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p.1 #3 · What Zeiss lenses have the most Zeiss "magic"?


As far as lenses with more character/less corrected of the many I’ve owned these stand out more:

Zeiss 80/2.8 (Hasselblad)
Contax G21 and G28
CY 28/2
CY 35/1.4
Contarex 85/2
ZM 50/1.5
Contax N 85/1.4

If I want much higher contrast and but with some structure in the draw…

ZM 35/1.4
ZA 50/1.4

And high contrast + smooth bokeh (but this type of draw has lost much of its appeal to me, but Zeiss does it as well as anyone):

Loxia 21/2.8
RX1 35/2 Sonnar
ZF 100/f2
ZA 135/1.8

There’s so much good Zeiss glass over the years.


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Mar 17, 2025 at 12:52 AM
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p.1 #4 · What Zeiss lenses have the most Zeiss "magic"?


Excellent question!

Although I have far less experience of Zeiss lenses than @raizans or @nehemiahphoto, I strongly agree that the 50mm Sonnar f/1.5 should figure on any such list. It may not be in quite the same mould as some of the lenses that are most associated with the Zeiss 3D “pop”, but I do think it has amazing character, and better contrast then is sometimes thought, even wide open.

Partly as a result of the bomb that Nehemiah dropped last year in Fred’s excellent 50mm Summilux / CV f/1.2 Nokton / CV f/2.0 APO thread, here, I bought one last year. It was just as good as I had hoped, and I then managed to pick up a late 1930s Contax f/1.5 Sonnar, renovated and modified for the M mount by Skyllaney Opto-Mechanics. Marvellous. I’ll post some comparisons when I have time.

One other Zeiss lens worthy of mention, which is often overlooked, is the ZM 85mm f/4 Tele-Tessar.

As most of you will know, some rather special and famous photographs have been taken using Zeiss lenses. It does help to have a unique photo opportunity, of course (I hope I got the lens details right!!) ….





  Hasselblad 500EL    Zeiss Planar f/2.8 80mm lens  




Mar 17, 2025 at 08:06 AM
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p.1 #5 · What Zeiss lenses have the most Zeiss "magic"?


Zeiss FE 110mm F/2 has the most magical look of any lens I’ve ever used.


Mar 17, 2025 at 08:32 AM
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p.1 #6 · What Zeiss lenses have the most Zeiss "magic"?


I must be a bit younger then prior posters...

Current magical:
135 f2 apo
milvus 100m f2
otus 55 f1.4
otus 28 f1.4
milvus 85 f1.4
etc...

use them on canon 5d II/6d II + leica sl2/3

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Mar 17, 2025 at 10:12 AM
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p.1 #7 · What Zeiss lenses have the most Zeiss "magic"?


nehemiahphoto wrote:
As far lenses with more character/less corrected of the many I’ve owned these stand out more:

Zeiss 80/2.8 (Hasselblad)
Contax G21 and G28
CY 28/2
CY 35/1.4
Contarex 85/2
ZM 50/1.5
Contax N 85/1.4

If I want much higher contrast and but with some structure in the draw…

ZM 35/1.4
ZA 50/1.4

And high contrast + smooth bokeh (but this type of draw has lost much of its appeal to me, but Zeiss does it as well as anyone):

Loxia 21/2.8
RX1 35/2 Sonnar
ZF 100/f2
ZA 135/1.8

There’s so much good Zeiss glass over the years.


Wow, great list there, thank you. The only one I own is the RX1 (which I love), but I agree that while it's an amazing lens, I don't see much 3D pop or other typical Zeiss signature (but maybe that's just me).

Of these, which ones do you think show the best 3D pop?

And thanks to everyone else for the replies - it's not helping my years-long desire to get a 50/1.5 ZM



Mar 17, 2025 at 10:23 AM
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p.1 #8 · What Zeiss lenses have the most Zeiss "magic"?


weezintrumpete wrote:
Some people might not think Zeiss lenses have anything special - this thread is not for those people

What Zeiss lenses show off the best Zeiss qualities that they are known for? Old, new, C/Y, Sony, M-mount, whatever.

What do you think?


One quick recommendation, the Zeiss Batis APO 135/f2.8.



Mar 17, 2025 at 11:25 AM
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p.1 #9 · What Zeiss lenses have the most Zeiss "magic"?


Best 3D pop is the 35 2.8 ZM.


Mar 17, 2025 at 11:39 AM
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p.1 #10 · What Zeiss lenses have the most Zeiss "magic"?


thank you. Happy to share!

There are a lot of shooters with a lot of knowledge on FM. I don’t want this swamp the thread, and I’d like to hear other people’s thoughts. So I will wait to post my longer response.



Mar 17, 2025 at 11:43 AM
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p.1 #11 · What Zeiss lenses have the most Zeiss "magic"?


🎶“Yeah Baby. I Like it like that.”🎵

*Carl Zeiss Jena Visionar 109mm f1.6 cinema projection lens.
By @Olaf G back in 2018 https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/983034/7&year=2011#14832212

Stunning example IMO:
https://flic.kr/p/NmoVCB









Mar 17, 2025 at 12:54 PM
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p.1 #12 · What Zeiss lenses have the most Zeiss "magic"?


I've only owned one - and it was the old Sony 50mm f/1.4 ZA Planar T*. People were excited when the first 50 1.4 GM was released, but I always thought the ZA had something special about the rendering.







Mar 17, 2025 at 02:07 PM
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p.1 #13 · What Zeiss lenses have the most Zeiss "magic"?


saxguy wrote:
I've only owned one - and it was the old Sony 50mm f/1.4 ZA Planar T*. People were excited when the first 50 1.4 GM was released, but I always thought the ZA had something special about the rendering.


I actually owned that lens for a while as well, and I really liked it (aside from the size). It did have a little something extra to it in the rendering I thought, but given the size I knew I wouldn't pick it up that much.



Mar 17, 2025 at 03:00 PM
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p.1 #14 · What Zeiss lenses have the most Zeiss "magic"?


raizans wrote:
Some highlights off the top of my head:

80mm f/2.8 Planar for Rolleiflex and Hasselblad
10.5cm f/4,5 Tessar on Zeiss Ikon Ikonta
50mm f/1.5 Sonnar on Contax
180mm f/2.8 and 300mm f/4 "Zebra" Sonnar on Pentacon Six
50mm f/1.5 C Sonnar ZM
38mm f/4.5 Biogon on Hasselblad SWC
35mm f/3.5 Tessar on Yashica T4
45mm f/2 Planar on Contax G


Would add 180 f/4 CF Sonnar for Hasselblad.



Mar 17, 2025 at 03:19 PM
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p.1 #15 · What Zeiss lenses have the most Zeiss "magic"?


weezintrumpete wrote:
I actually owned that lens for a while as well, and I really liked it (aside from the size). It did have a little something extra to it in the rendering I thought, but given the size I knew I wouldn't pick it up that much.


I use the SL3 and the 50mm Summilux-SL. The a7r v and Sony 50 1.4 ZA would be the size difference equivalent of me going to a Fuji X100vi at this point



Mar 17, 2025 at 05:02 PM
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p.1 #16 · What Zeiss lenses have the most Zeiss "magic"?


ZF/ZE classic 35/2 has surprised me a few times with it's pop


Mar 17, 2025 at 05:06 PM
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p.1 #17 · What Zeiss lenses have the most Zeiss "magic"?


ZF.2 Classic 35/2

Red Flag by Olaf Gnau, auf Flickr



Mar 17, 2025 at 05:18 PM
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p.1 #18 · What Zeiss lenses have the most Zeiss "magic"?




madNbad wrote:
Best 3D pop is the 35 2.8 ZM.


Can you possibly show some examples?
I hadn’t considered the 35mm 2.8 ZM until now.



Mar 17, 2025 at 05:35 PM
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p.1 #19 · What Zeiss lenses have the most Zeiss "magic"?


burningheart wrote:
ZF/ZE classic 35/2 has surprised me a few times with it's pop


I loved the ZE 35/2. Lots of pop and 3D.



Mar 17, 2025 at 05:46 PM
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p.1 #20 · What Zeiss lenses have the most Zeiss "magic"?


Among all the Zeiss lenses that I have used, I really love the following:

Leica M system: ZM 25/2.8 Biogon and 50/1.5 C-Sonnar
Nikon/Canon DSLR: Otus 28/1.4, Otus 100/1.4 and Milvus 35/1.4
Contax G: Biogon 21/2.8 and Biogon 28/2.8
Contax C/Y: Distagon 35/1.4 and Planar 50/1.4
Sony A-mount: Sonnar 135/1.8
Sony EF: Loxia 25/2.4 and Loxia 21/2.8
Sony RX1: 35/2 Sonnar
Hasselblad 6x6: Biogon 38/4.5 (SWC/903/5) Planar 100/3.5, Sonnar 180/4 and Sonnar 250/5.6 SA
Rolleiflex 3.5F: Planar 75/3.5
Contax 645: Distagon 35/3.5 and Apo-Makro-Planar 120/4



Mar 17, 2025 at 11:17 PM
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