p.1 #3 · Rumored "Exclusive First specs of the new Lumix S1rII"
Stephen G wrote:
So sort of a discount Sony A1 in L-mount?
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If these rumored specs become reality, I am very interested to see how well Panasonic Hybrid PDAF handles up to 40 FPS, which L-mount lenses can handle up to 40FPS and very curious to know sensor scan/readout speed of the 44MP sensor.
Some rumor this 44MP sensor will also be used in the A7 V ??
p.1 #4 · Rumored "Exclusive First specs of the new Lumix S1rII"
Very interested! I was disappointed with SL3 and SL3S update. I hope this one have stack sensor or fast sensor that can read out faster 1/60s.
TBH, I am not surprised Panasonic go different direction for their flagship camera given SL3 is almost 2 year now, it would be too late for S1R2 have the same sensor.
I almost bought s5x2, but if s1r2 offer similar size with better build quality and better EVF, sounds like a very attractive L Mount camera.
-New 44 MP “high speed” sensor
-40fps in electronic shutter
-10fps in mechanical shutter
-8 stops image stabilization
***176 MP High Res with sensor shift…handheld(!) and by combining 8 images.
-1.5 second pre-capture
***8k30p
***4K120 without crop
***8,1K Open-Gate will be released later with a Firmware Update
-Price around $3,500
-Announcement: Feb 25, 1-2pm London time
p.1 #6 · Rumored "Exclusive First specs of the new Lumix S1rII"
zhangyue wrote:
I am not surprised Panasonic go different direction for their flagship camera given SL3 is almost 2 year now, it would be too late for S1R2 have the same sensor.
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The SL3 isn't even 1 year old yet much less two
It was released in March of 2024 but who's counting
p.1 #7 · Rumored "Exclusive First specs of the new Lumix S1rII"
zhangyue wrote:
Very interested! I was disappointed with SL3 and SL3S update. I hope this one have stack sensor or fast sensor that can read out faster 1/60s.
TBH, I am not surprised Panasonic go different direction for their flagship camera given SL3 is almost 2 year now, it would be too late for S1R2 have the same sensor.
I almost bought s5x2, but if s1r2 offer similar size with better build quality and better EVF, sounds like a very attractive L Mount camera.
I like what I see so far in these potential specs! The choice of the new 44MP sensor is interesting. But also, I am even more curious to see how Panasonic hybrid PDAF has evolved in this new body--I think more than a few will be watching to see how this camera performs/compares in the high FPS/AF segment.
p.1 #9 · Rumored "Exclusive First specs of the new Lumix S1rII"
For me, I don’t need it have any fancy AF, s5ii level should be good for me. I have Nikon Z8 for my kids sports or dancing. Other than sports and bird, I don’t see AF is a limitation now days. They are all good enough. LBJ2 wrote:
I like what I see so far in these potential specs! The choice of the new 44MP sensor is interesting. But also, I am even more curious to see how Panasonic hybrid PDAF has evolved in this new body--I think more than a few will be watching to see how this camera performs/compares in the high FPS/AF segment.
p.1 #11 · Rumored "Exclusive First specs of the new Lumix S1rII"
RustyBug wrote:
That's kinda where I has hoping to see the SL3-S. I was thinking the 40MP size from the M10R / M10M would be a nice bump, but with BSI.
Not sure how keen I am (or not) yet about the stacked sensor thing (IQ, etc.), but time will tell.
I do think 40-44MP Leica SL3-S would have been very enticing. But here we are with Panasonic running off with that Goldilocks MPs idea. The rest of the alleged S1rII specs look good too.
*Author of this article writes he has seen high resolution images of the camera:
-"Multi-Angle-Screen like A9III/A1II
-Body size about the same of the Lumix S5II (just a tiny bit thicker)
-Weather-sealed and ventilated
-RED record button in front of the camera on the corner near the mount
-red Tally in front and on the back fo the camera"
Feb 21, 2025 at 08:24 AM
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p.1 #13 · Rumored "Exclusive First specs of the new Lumix S1rII"
LBJ2 wrote:
I do think 40-44MP Leica SL3-S would have been very enticing. But here we are with Panasonic running off with that Goldilocks MPs idea. The rest of the alleged S1rII specs look good too.
It is nice to see L mount get a stacked sensor camera. They can be very useful for some types of shooting and that combined with some of the new long Sigma lenses (e.g., 500 f/5.6, 800 f/6.3) might make it a very viable option even for wildlife shooters. Events shooters will probably really like this camera too.
I think it works out well that Leica brings the higher MP, but non-stacked SL-3, while Panasonic brings this 44 MP stacked sensor camera, and Sigma brings some pretty compelling lenses. To me that really shows the strength of having the L mount alliance, making it a system that can work for a lot of people.
p.1 #14 · Rumored "Exclusive First specs of the new Lumix S1rII"
Steve Spencer wrote:
It is nice to see L mount get a stacked sensor camera. They can be very useful for some types of shooting and that combined with some of the new long Sigma lenses (e.g., 500 f/5.6, 800 f/6.3) might make it a very viable option even for wildlife shooters. Events shooters will probably really like this camera too.
I think it works out well that Leica brings the higher MP, but non-stacked SL-3, while Panasonic brings this 44 MP stacked sensor camera, and Sigma brings some pretty compelling lenses. To me that really shows the strength of having the L mount alliance, making it a system that can work for a lot of people....Show more →
Just curious, and if this is the S1rII's sensor data, do you or anyone else know what description/specs on this IMX366AJK sensor product catalog flyer describe a stacked sensor or not? I don't see any mention of "stacked" in the text.
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p.1 #15 · Rumored "Exclusive First specs of the new Lumix S1rII"
LBJ2 wrote:
Just curious, and if this is the S1rII's sensor data, do you or anyone else know what description/specs on this IMX366AJK sensor product catalog flyer describe a stacked sensor or not? I don't see any mention of "stacked" in the text.
I don't know if this sensor would provide the leaked specs. It has a faster than normal readout speed (and it seems to have a global shutter readout mode), but seems to only do 26 fp/s max. at FF (readout 1), and would only provide 40 fps in APS-C mode (readout 10). The other thing that makes me doubt that it is the sensor in this camera is that it is a square sensor and not in a 3 X 2 aspect ratio. That would add a lot of sensor at the top and bottom that wouldn't get used and it wouldn't be 44 MP with a 3 X 2 aspect ratio. I can't see wasting that sensor real estate in a 3 X 2 aspect ratio camera. This sensor seems to be for a video camera and one that covers the slightly larger than FF V-Raptor size for RED and it looks like it might be what those cameras (or perhaps competing cameras with the same format) use as it describes an all-pixel (i.e., global shutter) readout mode.
I think the new Panasonic camera is likely to use a different sensor and it won't be square.
p.1 #16 · Rumored "Exclusive First specs of the new Lumix S1rII"
Steve Spencer wrote:
I don't know if this sensor would provide the leaked specs. It has a faster than normal readout speed (and it seems to have a global shutter readout mode), but seems to only do 26 fp/s max. at FF (readout 1), and would only provide 40 fps in APS-C mode (readout 10). The other thing that makes me doubt that it is the sensor in this camera is that it is a square sensor and not in a 3 X 2 aspect ratio. That would add a lot of sensor at the top and bottom that wouldn't get used and it wouldn't be 44 MP with a 3 X 2 aspect ratio. I can't see wasting that sensor real estate in a 3 X 2 aspect ratio camera. This sensor seems to be for a video camera and one that covers the slightly larger than FF V-Raptor size for RED and it looks like it might be what those cameras (or perhaps competing cameras with the same format) use as it describes an all-pixel (i.e., global shutter) readout mode.
I think the new Panasonic camera is likely to use a different sensor and it won't be square....Show more →
IMX366AJK square sensor? I see specs: chip size as approx 42mmH x 33mmV and image size = Diagonal 43.3mm, Type 2.7 ?
p.1 #17 · Rumored "Exclusive First specs of the new Lumix S1rII"
It is 3:2 sensor but not stacked.
Looks like read out speed is about 1/26s in 14 bit. Not great but usable. Similar to SL2 speed but faster than SL3. They might be able to offer E shutter read out at 1/60S at 12 bit mode. Edit: only at 35M output. I would assume this is reserved for video. (S9 default to 12 bit?) Which is good enough for most daily shooting. (similar to Z6III)
8K in 12 bit mode can do 60fps video.
I am curious on dynamic range of this sensor. I expect it should be on par with D850, Z7 or A7R4 level.
Too bad SL3S didnt use this one. I feel it is better than 24M in every way.
LBJ2 wrote:
Just curious, and if this is the S1rII's sensor data, do you or anyone else know what description/specs on this IMX366AJK sensor product catalog flyer describe a stacked sensor or not? I don't see any mention of "stacked" in the text.
p.1 #18 · Rumored "Exclusive First specs of the new Lumix S1rII"
This could be a very compelling camera. I like Panasonic camera color the best out of all. with 5.7~9.4M EVF and all the sigma L mount lens, I will buy it. If it offers similar AF performance as latest Z, I can settle with L mount only. (but need keep at least one Z body for 58noct and 135 plena)
p.1 #19 · Rumored "Exclusive First specs of the new Lumix S1rII"
zhangyue wrote:
It is 3:2 sensor but not stacked.
Looks like read out speed is about 1/26s in 14 bit. Not great but usable. Similar to SL2 speed but faster than SL3. They might be able to offer E shutter read out at 1/60S at 12 bit mode. (S9 default to 12 bit?) Which is good enough for most daily shooting. (similar to Z6III)
8K in 12 bit mode can do 60fps video.
I am curious on dynamic range of this sensor. I expect it should be on par with D850, Z7 or A7R4 level.
Too bad SL3S didnt use this one. I feel it is better than 24M in every way.
"Looks like read out speed is about 1/26s in 14 bit. Not great but usable. Similar to SL2 speed but faster than SL3. They might be able to offer E shutter read out at 1/60S at 12 bit mode. "
Are you referencing IMX366AJK Basic Drive Mode data: Readout mode 1 for "about 1/26s in 14 bit" and Readout mode 8 for "E shutter read out at 1/60S at 12 bit mode" ?
p.1 #20 · Rumored "Exclusive First specs of the new Lumix S1rII"
Yes.
LBJ2 wrote:
"Looks like read out speed is about 1/26s in 14 bit. Not great but usable. Similar to SL2 speed but faster than SL3. They might be able to offer E shutter read out at 1/60S at 12 bit mode. "
Are you referencing IMX366AJK Basic Drive Mode data: Readout mode 1 for "about 1/26s in 14 bit" and Readout mode 8 for "E shutter read out at 1/60S at 12 bit mode" ?
