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Archive 2025 · Sony 400-800 f/6.3-8 G It's here!!

  
 
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p.13 #1 · Sony 400-800 f/6.3-8 G It's here!!


Woohoo! Price in Australia is good!
Several shops have pre order for AU $4399. (US $2,771)
Tax in Aus is not optional so that price includes tax.

200-600 at release was $3300 and was almost immediately available for $3000 then $2900.
Soon after $2700. I bought one for $2093 - US $1318.
Currently available for $2269 - US $1,429

So a similar pattern will see 400-800 for AU$4000 - US$2,522 quickly.



Feb 26, 2025 at 08:31 PM
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p.13 #2 · Sony 400-800 f/6.3-8 G It's here!!


I have contemplated selling my 600 f/4 due to arm injuries and this might make that happen. I still have the 200-600 as well as the 100-400. I’m just getting to the point of not wanting to lug that big lens around as much as I used to.


Feb 26, 2025 at 08:36 PM
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p.13 #3 · Sony 400-800 f/6.3-8 G It's here!!




Q111H wrote:
I have contemplated selling my 600 f/4 due to arm injuries and this might make that happen. I still have the 200-600 as well as the 100-400. I’m just getting to the point of not wanting to lug that big lens around as much as I used to.

In that case the 300 GM with 2x TC should be perfect



Feb 26, 2025 at 08:40 PM
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p.13 #4 · Sony 400-800 f/6.3-8 G It's here!!


Does anyone know if aftermarket feet for the 400 or 600mm GM will fit on this lens?


Feb 26, 2025 at 09:26 PM
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p.13 #5 · Sony 400-800 f/6.3-8 G It's here!!



gooby wrote:
In that case the 300 GM with 2x TC should be perfect

That is definitely a lens I have been contemplating a while. I got a loaner from Sony thru the Sony Pro loaner program and loved it. I have the 1x and 2x tc’s already. It’s just the $6k price tag. I’ve been watching for a good deal and not sure how much I could get out of a mint 600GM. I would have to sell the 600 for sure if I bought the 300.



Feb 26, 2025 at 09:40 PM
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p.13 #6 · Sony 400-800 f/6.3-8 G It's here!!


robert614 wrote:
Does anyone know if aftermarket feet for the 400 or 600mm GM will fit on this lens?


I don't know but I'm hoping they do since they moved to the 4 screw approach instead of using the 200-600 foot.



Feb 26, 2025 at 09:44 PM
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p.13 #7 · Sony 400-800 f/6.3-8 G It's here!!


arbitrage wrote:
I don't know but I'm hoping they do since they moved to the 4 screw approach instead of using the 200-600 foot.


They did.



Feb 26, 2025 at 10:56 PM
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arbitrage wrote:
I don't know but I'm hoping they do since they moved to the 4 screw approach instead of using the 200-600 foot.


I hope so too

You’re pretty familiar with 600mm f4. Do you think the screw pattern layout and distances look the same on the 400-800?



Feb 27, 2025 at 01:18 AM
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p.13 #9 · Sony 400-800 f/6.3-8 G It's here!!


Lenstip jpeg samples:
https://www.lenstip.com/2504-news-Sony_FE_400-800_mm_f_6.3-8_G_OSS_-_sample_shots.html



Feb 27, 2025 at 02:48 AM
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Pixel Perfect wrote:
Honestly, a 300-600 f/5.6 GM + built-in 1.4x would be my perfect zoom and would pay $5-6K


300GM + TC is already a 300-600/5.6 equivalent.

Makes no sense building in a TC into a zoom, when they can just increase the zoom range instead.



Feb 27, 2025 at 04:14 AM
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p.13 #11 · Sony 400-800 f/6.3-8 G It's here!!


DWOfPaul wrote:
Sounds more tempting than I thought it would be at first.

Looks like the main decision I will need to make is do I want to trade f6.3 for f8 to gain the ability to zoom, compared to the Nikon 800mm PF. If I add a 1.4 TC to the mix the Sony would be at 1,120mm at f11, and the Nikon would be at 1,120mm at f9. Currently, if I put the TC 1.4x on my 200-600mm I get 840mm at f9 and if I put the TC 2x on my 200-600mm I get 1,200mm at f13. Decisions 🤔


The weakness of the Nikon 800mm PF is its whopping 5m minimum focusing distance and low 0.16x magnification. This means that if the bird you are shooting is smaller than 22.5cm long, you will not be able to fill the frame.

The 400-800 has a MFD of 1.7-3.5m, and the magnification is 0.23x. (fill frame with bird >15.6cm long)

The small birds are about 10cm long, so the closer the magnification is to 0.35x the better.



Feb 27, 2025 at 04:31 AM
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As someone who has never shot a longer tele lens I am wondering, if f8 at 800mm can still be considered good (and also useful?). Those who have used focal lengths like this one can surely judge better.
In addition, as someone who really wants to travel to an African country with wildlife isn’t he closer future I also wonder, if this lens would be your choice then?



Feb 27, 2025 at 04:54 AM
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zeitlos wrote:
As someone who has never shot a longer tele lens I am wondering, if f8 at 800mm can still be considered good (and also useful?). Those who have used focal lengths like this one can surely judge better.
In addition, as someone who really wants to travel to an African country with wildlife isn’t he closer future I also wonder, if this lens would be your choice then?


It depends on the subject, distance to subject, and the lighting conditions.

Lenses like 100-400/4.5-5.6 and (150/180/)200-600/5.6-6.3 are commonly used and people often end up cropping at the longest focal length. If so, then the 400-800 would actually give more light to the sensor area covered by the subject's image than these shorter (but wider f-stop) lenses. Thus the image quality is probably a bit better from the 400-800 at 800 mm. However, handling the larger lens is more cumbersome and can be tiring quickly, depending on the photographer's physical fitness and temper. Thus I think a lot of people would be using the 400-800 with a tripod or at least a tripod head attached to a hide window.

Of course, if there is not enough light to shoot at f/8, and get acceptable results, then there is not enough light. But sometimes you can have a situation where the light at longer distance is better than the light at close range. When photographing birds on water in a location near me, ideally I would like to have the setting sun's light on the bird, creating nice warm/cool color contrast. If I am shooting with a 400 mm or 500 mm lens, to fill the frame with a reasonable composition without cropping, the birds are so close that the ridge surrounding the body of water blocks the setting sun's light from hitting the birds. If the birds are close to the the middle of the water, the sunlight does hit them from a low angle, creating good visual conditions for the photograph. This leads to a lens like the 400-800 which would enable photographing the birds when they are in the well-lit middle of the water area and also at different positions. In this case the ISO would be elevated but not ridiculously high, and probably the image quality would be quite good. Of course, a 600 mm f/4 will enable the use of lower ISO settings and better image quality, but then it's a lens of a completely different price class.

For subjects that are nocturnal such as deer, they tend to be the most active when the light is dim and probably this is because they feel less threatened by humans in low light and can come closer, leading to a situation where a larger-aperture but shorter lens is appropriate, and f/8 just wouldn't give good results.

So the answer: it depends (oh, I said that already ;-)).

I haven't been to Africa, but I understand that there are subjects of different sizes at different distances, and lots of different lenses can be used, but because of dust, zooms can be preferred so that you don't end up changing lenses often, and exposing the sensor to dust.



Feb 27, 2025 at 05:46 AM
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p.13 #14 · Sony 400-800 f/6.3-8 G It's here!!


zeitlos wrote:
As someone who has never shot a longer tele lens I am wondering, if f8 at 800mm can still be considered good (and also useful?). Those who have used focal lengths like this one can surely judge better.
In addition, as someone who really wants to travel to an African country with wildlife isn’t he closer future I also wonder, if this lens would be your choice then?


We only have early reviews so far, but they indicate that yes, it's good.
For a single body and lens combination, I think I'd prefer the 200-600.
For a 2 body, 2 lens combination, I'd prefer 400-800 and depending on budget, 70-200 2.8 or 300 2.8.
If budget almost unlimited, 600 f4 and 300 2.8.
If budget actually unlimited, 4 bodies, 70-200 2.8, 300 2.8, 400 2.8, 600 f4 and 2 sherpas, trained up in rapid TC fitting and removal. Also hire Usain Bolt as a human lure for some good Big Cat action.





Feb 27, 2025 at 06:06 AM
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p.13 #15 · Sony 400-800 f/6.3-8 G It's here!!


The PetaPixel folks say it is a slam dunk quality wise compared to the 200-600...

https://petapixel.com/2025/02/26/sony-400-800mm-f-6-3-8-g-review-a-wildlife-photography-champion/



Feb 27, 2025 at 06:20 AM
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p.13 #16 · Sony 400-800 f/6.3-8 G It's here!!


Pre-order placed at 6:02AM! Estimated delivery is March 21st.


Feb 27, 2025 at 09:03 AM
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p.13 #17 · Sony 400-800 f/6.3-8 G It's here!!


AGeoJO wrote:
Pre-order placed at 6:02AM! Estimated delivery is March 21st.


You beat me by a minute



Feb 27, 2025 at 09:17 AM
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p.13 #18 · Sony 400-800 f/6.3-8 G It's here!!


robert614 wrote:
I hope so too

You’re pretty familiar with 600mm f4. Do you think the screw pattern layout and distances look the same on the 400-800?


Just eyeballing it from the closeup Duade showed in his video and this photo I just took of the 600GM, I would say they look close but maybe the 600GM is more spaced out judging from the size of the screws (assuming they are the same) and the amount of plastic/metal between them??





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Feb 27, 2025 at 09:27 AM
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p.13 #19 · Sony 400-800 f/6.3-8 G It's here!!


Pre-order placed at 6:09 AM.


Feb 27, 2025 at 09:28 AM
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arbitrage wrote:
Just eyeballing it from the closeup Duade showed in his video and this photo I just took of the 600GM, I would say they look close but maybe the 600GM is more spaced out judging from the size of the screws (assuming they are the same) and the amount of plastic/metal between them??


Thx for the pics

Yeah, looks like the space between the screws on the 400-800 are slightly closer together vs. the ones on the 600mm ☹️






Feb 27, 2025 at 10:05 AM
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