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 p.7 #18 · After testing Z8 and having focus issues I may go to the Sony A7RV | |
It’s fascinating how someone who doesn’t own Nikon equipment feels so compelled to dive headfirst into a conversation about Nikon’s AF performance. I mean, who needs actual firsthand experience when you can just weigh in with secondhand opinions and amplify what’s likely a sock or troll post? Truly groundbreaking stuff.
But really, what’s the motivation here? A deep concern for Nikon users? A sudden passion for debating the nuances of AF systems you don't use? Or is it just a case of wanting to run down other systems to prop up their preferred brand? Hard to say, but it’s quite the commitment to champion a conversation started by someone who probably created the thread just to stir the pot.
If the goal is really to help, wouldn’t it make more sense to contribute to discussions about gear you actually own and use? You know, where you can provide meaningful insights instead of fanning the flames of what might be a troll agenda.
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So, let's get over whether the OP is a troll or not. Maybe he is and maybe he isn't. So what? He posted on an issue that many people in this thread confirms exists. Pretty much everyone who has posted on this thread, that shoots both systems confirm that when relying on Eye AF the Nikon Z AF tends to miss focus with some frequency, or is a bit fussy in workflow to improve the hit rate.
They also confirm that the Sony is both easier, and more accurate with a high hit rate even wide open at f/1.2.
For most people I think the issue is more important than the motivations of the OP. Why don't we just address the issue, which appears to be real, and is not subject to speculations on motivation. No one seems able to prove the status of the OP or his motivations. Given this, trying to distract by blaming the motivations of the OP is probably not the most productive path to understanding the issue.
I may have a project coming up where I am trying to decide whether to go all Leica (M,SL) or mix Leica M with Sony A1. Going all Leica would be nice, but Leica SL AF is not even close to Sony A1. For the people portion I just did a series of test using my Sony A1 with a variety of F/1.2 and F1/4 GM primes of different focal lengths and a 24-70 f/2.8 GM and a 70-200 f/2.8 GM Zooms. (the leica SL did OK but not even close to the A1) I shot well over 100 test images using Sony Eye AF in a variety of lighting and movement scenarios. The shooting workflow was just stupid simple. Wide Area focus, point the camera at the subject and shoot. Zooming in to check focus I don't think the Sony missed the pupil even once when visible in the image. Amazing! I agree a simple challenge with decent lighting, easy subjects, not very fast movement, and limited in scope. Conclusion, Sony A1 Eye AF is easy and reliable.
I really don't have access to the equipment to test a Z8/9 on a level playing field. The zoom part would be good, but the Nikon primes would be a problem. I could adapt my GMs but that would not be level either.
So, I will leave it at this. The posts claiming that the Sony AF is simple to use, accurate focusing on the pupil, and reliable, for me are confirmed. The Nikon Z AF judging from the posts in this thread, even from Nikon users, at least has a more difficult workflow, even then may not be accurate at times, even in skilled hands. However, this difference is not likely large enough that either camera system couldn't be used for any purpose/even/project with good result.
Troll or not, the OP's thread has provided at least some visibility into this issue, so has had value....Show more →
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I even use Fuji X mount. I don't know what the issue is.