I read the 50/1.4 Lux commonly has some focus ring roughness due to its use of FLE, so it might have given that impression to the CLA guy re the 90mm.
The CV's f2 image here looks over-exposed. The shape of the face is affected, he looks fatter than in the f2.8 image, which looks markedly better (3D, better hair locks). Saturation is lower in the f2 too. It shows next to the Leica image as well, lower down the page.
Stargenx wrote:
I'm going to be in Japan on the 14th of Feb, what do you think are the chances they aren't sold out by then? Is it possible to preorder and pick it up after a couple of weeks?
I think chances are pretty good that you would be able to pick up one at a shop in Tokyo around 14th of Feb even without any kind of pre-booking as well. Usually CV tele-lenses like 90/2.8, 75/1.5, 75/1.9 etc. haven't been pre-ordered so much and they tend to remain in stock well after launch, and in case one store doesn't have them in stock, there are several stores that carry them that can be checked.
E.g. Map Camera in Shinjuku, Fujiya Camera at Nakano and Ogisaku Camera near Okigubo station all carry CV lenses and those 3 generally have the best / deepest stock of CV lenses in Tokyo as well as the best prices and tax free option for foreign visitors too. Additionally there are Kitamura Camera, several Yodobashi Camera and Bic Camera stores that carry them too + numerous others.
I don't know if Map Camera or other stores support pre-booking by special arrangement for foreign visitors (no personal experience of that) but I saw you are already contacting them with a query.
Personally I'm thinking of buying this lens one or two weeks after launch most likely from Map Camera so that I could do some trade-ins there and I'm not concerned about availability.
Thanks for your insight, truly appreciate the wisdom of those with more experience, I've reached out to them and depending on what they say, I'll know whether or not it's possible. I suppose by your reckoning, the 28 1.5 would be the more likely to be sold out, then?
Stargenx wrote:
Thanks for your insight, truly appreciate the wisdom of those with more experience, I've reached out to them and depending on what they say, I'll know whether or not it's possible. I suppose by your reckoning, the 28 1.5 would be the more likely to be sold out, then?
Thanks!
I think 28/1.5 in E-mount will sell more volume in Japan overall for sure since 28mm is a more mainstream focal length and there haven't been many good options in native E-mount. So far it also shows much higher popularity rankings in Japanese price comparison site kakaku.com and appears to be listed in many more stores than 90/2.
However, I don't think it will be out of stock so quickly either. Initial shipment volumes could also most likely depend on expected sales projections etc. It's probably also going to be possible to find 28/1.5 E in stock in some stores at least around mid-February.
Straight out of the camera with added sharpening and Adobe Standard profile. No corrections.Some friends evacuated from the fires in LA came to stay with us in San Clemente. We had a wonderful time at the Pier yesterday, and I brought along the CV 90/2 APO-Ultron for some quick shots. Here are a couple of them:
LEICA M10-RVoigtlander 90/2 APO-Ultron lens90mmf/2.01/100s400 ISO0.0 EV
LEICA M10-RVoigtlander 90/2 APO-Ultron lens90mmf/2.01/100s100 ISO0.0 EV
For this shot, I had accidentally set the shutter speed too low but still managed to get their faces sharp enough. Earlier, I had been doing some comparisons with the Leica APO-Summicron on a tripod before taking this picture.
It also highlights how the specular highlights appear when stopped down to f/2.8. (much more rounded compared to when shot wide open)
LEICA M10-RVoigtlander 90mm f/2 APO-Ultron lensf/2.81/25s100 ISO0.0 EV
Fred Miranda wrote:
For this shot, I had accidentally set the shutter speed too low but still managed to get their faces sharp enough. Earlier, I had been doing some comparisons with the Leica APO-Summicron on a tripod before taking this picture.
It also highlights how the specular highlights appear when stopped down to f/2.8. (much more rounded compared to when shot wide open)
Is this image cropped? I am surprised how round the specular highlight Bokeh balls are out to the edge of the frame.
1bwana1 wrote:
Is this image cropped? I am surprised how round the specular highlight Bokeh balls are out to the edge of the frame.
As I mentioned, that image was stopped down, which is why the bokeh appears more rounded towards the edges. None of the images were cropped, and they have minimal processing, using either Adobe Standard or Color profiles. For portraits, I personally prefer the 'Standard' profile.
Fred Miranda wrote:
As I mentioned, that image was stopped down, which is why the bokeh appears more rounded towards the edges. None of the images were cropped, and they have minimal processing, using either Adobe Standard or Color profiles. For portraits, I personally prefer the 'Standard' profile.
And the bokeh balls are nicely smooth and round not polygonal when stopped down like some lenses. I like that. This may be my new 90mm lens.
1bwana1 wrote:
And the bokeh balls are nicely smooth and round not polygonal when stopped down like some lenses. I like that. This may be my new 90mm lens.
Steve, when the image is resized, the shape isn’t noticeable, but at the pixel level, the dodecagon shape becomes more apparent.
This is an update to the previous sunstar test. I gave it another go during a clear sunrise and saw much better results, particularly with reduced veiling flare. Now, distinct sunstars are visible from all apertures, except f/2 (because the blades are fully open) and f/16, which is common with Cosina aperture mechanisms.
This is great news for those who enjoy distinctive sunstars in their images!
Here is another sequence from f/2 to f/16 in 1-stop increments:
Hoping they push out E and Z mount versions of this as well. Voigtlander is doing good things with APO designs really and I like having a decent f/2 set of primes.
Has there been any discussion about the focus ring yet?
I absolutely love the look of my pre-Apo Summicron, but its focus ring is honestly a nightmare. Even after being freshly cleaned and lubricated, the lens still can't be focused quickly and precisely in a comfortable manner. Built like a tank, but in my opinion, they really dropped the ball on this aspect.
How does the new Ultron compare in this regard?
I’m also familiar with Leica's Apo 2.0 and the Apo Skopar, so perhaps that makes a comparison easier
Apo Summicron: The focus ring has a more pleasant resistance, but the overall feel of the lens doesn’t come close to the tank-like build of the non-Apo version.
Apo Skopar: The focus ring and build quality couldn’t be more enjoyable.
gammarART wrote:
Has there been any discussion about the focus ring yet?
I absolutely love the look of my pre-Apo Summicron, but its focus ring is honestly a nightmare. Even after being freshly cleaned and lubricated, the lens still can't be focused quickly and precisely in a comfortable manner. Built like a tank, but in my opinion, they really dropped the ball on this aspect.
How does the new Ultron compare in this regard?
I’m also familiar with Leica's Apo 2.0 and the Apo Skopar, so perhaps that makes a comparison easier
Apo Summicron: The focus ring has a more pleasant resistance, but the overall feel of the lens doesn’t come close to the tank-like build of the non-Apo version.
Apo Skopar: The focus ring and build quality couldn’t be more enjoyable....Show more →
Yes, the focus ring rotation on my APO-Summicron is noticeably less smooth compared to the Voigtlander, even after a recent CLA. This is an area where most Cosina lenses excel. They’re very pleasant to focus.
Fred Miranda wrote:
Yes, the focus ring rotation on my APO-Summicron is noticeably less smooth compared to the Voigtlander, even after a recent CLA. This is an area where most Cosina lenses excel. They’re very pleasant to focus.
Fred, the near distance wide aperture images look great!
Any comment on focus throw/speed between the VM and the 90AA, and how easy it is to nail focus with the rangefinder? Apologies if you already commented on this and I missed it.
PhilH wrote:
Hoping they push out E and Z mount versions of this as well.
This might be a lighter-weight alternative to the Loxia 85. (I already have the ZM 85/4, but I'm still interested in the faster lens.) If the M-mount lens gives the Loxia a run for my money, I think I wouldn't wait for the native version.
zugzwang2 wrote:
This might be a lighter-weight alternative to the Loxia 85. (I already have the ZM 85/4, but I'm still interested in the faster lens.) If the M-mount lens gives the Loxia a run for my money, I think I wouldn't wait for the native version.
Although the Voigtlander 90mm f/2 APO is even faster, it’s also much shorter than the Loxia 85/2.4 (95mm vs. 63mm length).
Add 10mm for a M to E adapter, but it’s still much shorter...especially with their hoods attached.
I’m confident it will perform the same when adapted to other mirrorless cameras as it does on the Leica M, due to its focal length and optical design.
I suppose by your reckoning, the 28 1.5 would be the more likely to be sold out, then?
