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Archive 2024Yashica T4
p.1 #1Yashica T4
A little long term look at my “daily driver” point and shoot, the Yashica T4…a super fun camera!
Dec 27, 2024 at 06:37 PM
p.1 #2Yashica T4
Looks like a great camera, but $400 is way too steep for me! Turning off the flash every time would get annoying for me. My pick for a great P&S at a fraction of the price is a Canon EOS 300X (Rebel T2) for around $25 plus the EF40mm pancake lens around $100. This makes for a light tiny camera that gives reliably metered and focused shots in program mode.
For me the only camera that is ‘pocketable’ is an iphone, and even then one of the older models before they started getting huge again. There’s no way that brick of a yashica is fitting in any of my pockets, since I don’t wear baggy loose fitting clothes. Even if I did I would not find it comfortable to walk around with a brick of a camera in the pocket. The Canon with a pancake lens has a slightly more awkward shape but the overall dimensions are similar to the Yashica.
For me the only camera that is ‘pocketable’ is an iphone, and even then one of the older models before they started getting huge again. There’s no way that brick of a yashica is fitting in any of my pockets, since I don’t wear baggy loose fitting clothes. Even if I did I would not find it comfortable to walk around with a brick of a camera in the pocket. The Canon with a pancake lens has a slightly more awkward shape but the overall dimensions are similar to the Yashica.
Dec 28, 2024 at 01:32 AM
p.1 #3Yashica T4
Nice video Scott and it looks like it takes great photos! My P&S of choice is the Samsung AF Slim Zoom with the 35-70mm lens. Also takes great photos and has a 'snap' mode where focus can be pre-set for fast shooting.
Dec 28, 2024 at 07:38 AM
p.1 #4Yashica T4
Calling the Yashi a brick while preferring a full SLR is a choice but ok 
There are MANY cheaper options than the T4 for sure, but as a total package with a great meter, reliable center AF, and fantastic Zeiss lens, I was willing to splurge a bit.
andrewd01 wrote:
Looks like a great camera, but $400 is way too steep for me! Turning off the flash every time would get annoying for me. My pick for a great P&S at a fraction of the price is a Canon EOS 300X (Rebel T2) for around $25 plus the EF40mm pancake lens around $100. This makes for a light tiny camera that gives reliably metered and focused shots in program mode.
For me the only camera that is ‘pocketable’ is an iphone, and even then one of the older models before they started getting huge again. There’s no way that brick of...Show more →
There are MANY cheaper options than the T4 for sure, but as a total package with a great meter, reliable center AF, and fantastic Zeiss lens, I was willing to splurge a bit.
andrewd01 wrote:
Looks like a great camera, but $400 is way too steep for me! Turning off the flash every time would get annoying for me. My pick for a great P&S at a fraction of the price is a Canon EOS 300X (Rebel T2) for around $25 plus the EF40mm pancake lens around $100. This makes for a light tiny camera that gives reliably metered and focused shots in program mode.
For me the only camera that is ‘pocketable’ is an iphone, and even then one of the older models before they started getting huge again. There’s no way that brick of...Show more →
Dec 28, 2024 at 10:32 AM
p.1 #5Yashica T4
For most SLRs I would agree but the last model entry level Canons are genuinely only a fraction larger then many P&S cameras when mounted with a pancake lens.
Dec 28, 2024 at 01:21 PM
p.1 #7Yashica T4
Easy solution for sticker shock:
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Dec 29, 2024 at 06:15 PM
p.1 #8Yashica T4
Looking back on my 2024 photos I got quiet a lot of my favorites with an iPhone and my film point and shoots.
Grabbing my tiny SLR and grabbing my digital M are similar burdens and sometimes I just opt not to if I don't anticipate being anywhere interesting. But then interesting happens.
The cognitive/hassle cost of grabbing a tiny film P&S is far lower and I'm just grabbing a camera more before I head out the door.
So is $400 too much? Well for digital, I am seriously considering selling off my M to scoop up a $1k Ricoh and just getting a ICLM for intentional stuff.
Grabbing my tiny SLR and grabbing my digital M are similar burdens and sometimes I just opt not to if I don't anticipate being anywhere interesting. But then interesting happens.
The cognitive/hassle cost of grabbing a tiny film P&S is far lower and I'm just grabbing a camera more before I head out the door.
So is $400 too much? Well for digital, I am seriously considering selling off my M to scoop up a $1k Ricoh and just getting a ICLM for intentional stuff.
Jan 14, 2025 at 11:09 AM
p.1 #9Yashica T4
ottokbre wrote:
Looking back on my 2024 photos I got quiet a lot of my favorites with an iPhone and my film point and shoots.
Grabbing my tiny SLR and grabbing my digital M are similar burdens and sometimes I just opt not to if I don't anticipate being anywhere interesting. But then interesting happens.
The cognitive/hassle cost of grabbing a tiny film P&S is far lower and I'm just grabbing a camera more before I head out the door.
So is $400 too much? Well for digital, I am seriously considering selling off my M to scoop up a $1k Ricoh...Show more →
If we didn't have the looming threat of these things bricking at any time, $400 would be a steal.
It's why I'm paying attention to this project:
Looking back on my 2024 photos I got quiet a lot of my favorites with an iPhone and my film point and shoots.
Grabbing my tiny SLR and grabbing my digital M are similar burdens and sometimes I just opt not to if I don't anticipate being anywhere interesting. But then interesting happens.
The cognitive/hassle cost of grabbing a tiny film P&S is far lower and I'm just grabbing a camera more before I head out the door.
So is $400 too much? Well for digital, I am seriously considering selling off my M to scoop up a $1k Ricoh...Show more →
If we didn't have the looming threat of these things bricking at any time, $400 would be a steal.
It's why I'm paying attention to this project:
Jan 14, 2025 at 11:23 AM
p.1 #10Yashica T4
ottokbre wrote:
Looking back on my 2024 photos I got quiet a lot of my favorites with an iPhone and my film point and shoots.
Grabbing my tiny SLR and grabbing my digital M are similar burdens and sometimes I just opt not to if I don't anticipate being anywhere interesting. But then interesting happens.
The cognitive/hassle cost of grabbing a tiny film P&S is far lower and I'm just grabbing a camera more before I head out the door.
So is $400 too much? Well for digital, I am seriously considering selling off my M to scoop up a $1k Ricoh...Show more →
$400 is too much for me because I got to play with one and I just couldn’t see the value in it. For me.
It felt just as cheap as my $20 p&s cameras, and actually had less features. People say it is about the lens but my Samsungs - especially the AF Slim with the 35mm fixed focal lens - has a killer lens. As does my Nikon LiteTouch AF, and you can get four of those for one T4!
But I did really like how the T4 handled and also really liked how it is turned on. It’s just that isn’t enough for me to justify the price which is purely driven by influencers.
All these p&s cameras are basically on their last legs so a $20 one going belly up is a lot easier to deal w than a $400 doing that.
Then again you know that risk, and if you pick up a T4 and it just clicks with you, so you know you will always have it with you, then yeah I can see getting one. I’m just lucky that the dirt cheap Samsung AF Slims did that for me!
And to the point of the best camera is the one that you have with you.. I loaded a roll into my Rolleiflex on 12/3/24. I have not yet fired a single frame. But have shot 17 rolls through various other cameras - the majority being p&s types - since then!
The Rolleiflex is just not a casual camera - especially with dogs in tow! - and using it really draws positive attention so you’ve got to be in the mood for that!
Looking back on my 2024 photos I got quiet a lot of my favorites with an iPhone and my film point and shoots.
Grabbing my tiny SLR and grabbing my digital M are similar burdens and sometimes I just opt not to if I don't anticipate being anywhere interesting. But then interesting happens.
The cognitive/hassle cost of grabbing a tiny film P&S is far lower and I'm just grabbing a camera more before I head out the door.
So is $400 too much? Well for digital, I am seriously considering selling off my M to scoop up a $1k Ricoh...Show more →
$400 is too much for me because I got to play with one and I just couldn’t see the value in it. For me.
It felt just as cheap as my $20 p&s cameras, and actually had less features. People say it is about the lens but my Samsungs - especially the AF Slim with the 35mm fixed focal lens - has a killer lens. As does my Nikon LiteTouch AF, and you can get four of those for one T4!
But I did really like how the T4 handled and also really liked how it is turned on. It’s just that isn’t enough for me to justify the price which is purely driven by influencers.
All these p&s cameras are basically on their last legs so a $20 one going belly up is a lot easier to deal w than a $400 doing that.
Then again you know that risk, and if you pick up a T4 and it just clicks with you, so you know you will always have it with you, then yeah I can see getting one. I’m just lucky that the dirt cheap Samsung AF Slims did that for me!
And to the point of the best camera is the one that you have with you.. I loaded a roll into my Rolleiflex on 12/3/24. I have not yet fired a single frame. But have shot 17 rolls through various other cameras - the majority being p&s types - since then!
The Rolleiflex is just not a casual camera - especially with dogs in tow! - and using it really draws positive attention so you’ve got to be in the mood for that!
Jan 14, 2025 at 11:43 AM
p.1 #11Yashica T4
RoamingScott wrote:
Grabbing my tiny SLR and grabbing my digital M are similar burdens and sometimes I just opt not to if I don't anticipate being anywhere interesting. But then interesting happens.
The cognitive/hassle cost of grabbing a tiny film P&S is far lower and I'm just grabbing a camera more before I head out the door.
So is $400 too much? Well for digital, I am seriously considering selling off my M to scoop up a $1k Ricoh and just getting a ICLM for intentional stuff.If we didn't have the looming threat of these things bricking at any time, $400 would be a steal.
It's why I'm paying attention to this project:
Exactly this. $400 is a totally acceptable price point for this camera as long as it delivers on its promise. And it shows how overpriced the P17 is - even my local camera shop said it was way overpriced given its feature set.
I’m just a little skeptical about the company’s timeline/if they can deliver. They have not yet even built the tooling and yet say it will be on the market in May 2025!
ottokbre wrote
Looking back on my 2024 photos I got quiet a lot of my favorites with an iPhone and my film point and shoots.Grabbing my tiny SLR and grabbing my digital M are similar burdens and sometimes I just opt not to if I don't anticipate being anywhere interesting. But then interesting happens.
The cognitive/hassle cost of grabbing a tiny film P&S is far lower and I'm just grabbing a camera more before I head out the door.
So is $400 too much? Well for digital, I am seriously considering selling off my M to scoop up a $1k Ricoh and just getting a ICLM for intentional stuff.
It's why I'm paying attention to this project:
Exactly this. $400 is a totally acceptable price point for this camera as long as it delivers on its promise. And it shows how overpriced the P17 is - even my local camera shop said it was way overpriced given its feature set.
I’m just a little skeptical about the company’s timeline/if they can deliver. They have not yet even built the tooling and yet say it will be on the market in May 2025!
Jan 14, 2025 at 11:47 AM
p.1 #12Yashica T4
Definitely worth paying to get in line just to see if it materializes.
Desmolicious wrote:
Grabbing my tiny SLR and grabbing my digital M are similar burdens and sometimes I just opt not to if I don't anticipate being anywhere interesting. But then interesting happens.
The cognitive/hassle cost of grabbing a tiny film P&S is far lower and I'm just grabbing a camera more before I head out the door.
So is $400 too much? Well for digital, I am seriously considering selling off my M to scoop up a $1k Ricoh and just getting a ICLM for intentional stuff.If we didn't have the looming threat of these things bricking at any time, $400 would be a steal.
It's why I'm paying attention to this project:Exactly this. $400 is a totally acceptable price point for this camera as long as it delivers on its promise. And it shows how overpriced the P17 is - even my local camera shop said it was way overpriced given its feature set.
I’m just a little skeptical about the company’s timeline/if they can deliver. They have not yet even built the tooling and yet say it will be on the market in May 2025!
Desmolicious wrote:
RoamingScott wrote
ottokbre wrote
Looking back on my 2024 photos I got quiet a lot of my favorites with an iPhone and my film point and shoots.Grabbing my tiny SLR and grabbing my digital M are similar burdens and sometimes I just opt not to if I don't anticipate being anywhere interesting. But then interesting happens.
The cognitive/hassle cost of grabbing a tiny film P&S is far lower and I'm just grabbing a camera more before I head out the door.
So is $400 too much? Well for digital, I am seriously considering selling off my M to scoop up a $1k Ricoh and just getting a ICLM for intentional stuff.
It's why I'm paying attention to this project:
I’m just a little skeptical about the company’s timeline/if they can deliver. They have not yet even built the tooling and yet say it will be on the market in May 2025!
Jan 14, 2025 at 12:27 PM
p.1 #13Yashica T4
An alternative to the high quality/high price potential brick P&Ss is the Olympus 35 RC. You forgo AF and auto wind, but gain easy manual focus and a nice manual wind. The lens is great and it has mechanical manual settings, if the shutter priority auto ever fails.
For point and shoot fun just set the shutter to 125 or 250 depending on the film speed for daylight and 1/30 for evenings.
The VF is better than any point and shoot I have tried, though I haven't tried any of the premium P&Ss.
Good ones are still quite a bit cheaper than the Contax/Yashica premium P&Ss.
For point and shoot fun just set the shutter to 125 or 250 depending on the film speed for daylight and 1/30 for evenings.
The VF is better than any point and shoot I have tried, though I haven't tried any of the premium P&Ss.
Good ones are still quite a bit cheaper than the Contax/Yashica premium P&Ss.
Jan 14, 2025 at 08:52 PM
p.1 #14Yashica T4
Thinking about the T4, I am looking at my broken Fuji Klasse W. I keep forgetting to put it on ebay - worked last time I used it! - j/k broken selling for parts.
That camera had flaws but I really liked it. Flaws - slooow AF (much slower than way cheaper Fujis I own), exposure LEDs in the VF that are completely invisible.
But I dealt with both by slowing down, and shooting in P mode so it didn't matter that I couldn't see the LEDs.
The camera had a killer lens, super exposures, awesome exp comp dial, small and fit perfectly in hand.
But it died. At least when the T4 dies on you it is $400 not $1000..
That camera had flaws but I really liked it. Flaws - slooow AF (much slower than way cheaper Fujis I own), exposure LEDs in the VF that are completely invisible.
But I dealt with both by slowing down, and shooting in P mode so it didn't matter that I couldn't see the LEDs.
The camera had a killer lens, super exposures, awesome exp comp dial, small and fit perfectly in hand.
But it died. At least when the T4 dies on you it is $400 not $1000..
Jan 16, 2025 at 01:22 PM
p.1 #15Yashica T4
Desmolicious wrote:
Thinking about the T4, I am looking at my broken Fuji Klasse W. I keep forgetting to put it on ebay - worked last time I used it! - j/k broken selling for parts.
That camera had flaws but I really liked it. Flaws - slooow AF (much slower than way cheaper Fujis I own), exposure LEDs in the VF that are completely invisible.
But I dealt with both by slowing down, and shooting in P mode so it didn't matter that I couldn't see the LEDs.
The camera had a killer lens, super exposures, awesome exp comp dial, small and fit perfectly...Show more →
Exactly why the Contax T2 is such a dumb purchase these days. Plus I'm years deep into the T4, it's getting cheaper to shoot with every roll through it.
Thinking about the T4, I am looking at my broken Fuji Klasse W. I keep forgetting to put it on ebay - worked last time I used it! - j/k broken selling for parts.
That camera had flaws but I really liked it. Flaws - slooow AF (much slower than way cheaper Fujis I own), exposure LEDs in the VF that are completely invisible.
But I dealt with both by slowing down, and shooting in P mode so it didn't matter that I couldn't see the LEDs.
The camera had a killer lens, super exposures, awesome exp comp dial, small and fit perfectly...Show more →
Exactly why the Contax T2 is such a dumb purchase these days. Plus I'm years deep into the T4, it's getting cheaper to shoot with every roll through it.
Jan 16, 2025 at 01:27 PM
p.1 #16Yashica T4
RoamingScott wrote:
That camera had flaws but I really liked it. Flaws - slooow AF (much slower than way cheaper Fujis I own), exposure LEDs in the VF that are completely invisible.
But I dealt with both by slowing down, and shooting in P mode so it didn't matter that I couldn't see the LEDs.
The camera had a killer lens, super exposures, awesome exp comp dial, small and fit perfectly in hand.
But it died. At least when the T4 dies on you it is $400 not $1000..Exactly why the Contax T2 is such a dumb purchase these days. Plus I'm years deep into the T4, it's getting cheaper to shoot with every roll through it.
Have you put down the $6 deposit to get the Analogue AF-1 for 339 EUR? Regular retail will be 399 EUR.
They have not built the tooling and claim production release is 6/25... Also watching the interview I'm guessing their partner is either Samsung or Panasonic.
Desmolicious wrote
Thinking about the T4, I am looking at my broken Fuji Klasse W. I keep forgetting to put it on ebay - worked last time I used it! - j/k broken selling for parts.That camera had flaws but I really liked it. Flaws - slooow AF (much slower than way cheaper Fujis I own), exposure LEDs in the VF that are completely invisible.
But I dealt with both by slowing down, and shooting in P mode so it didn't matter that I couldn't see the LEDs.
The camera had a killer lens, super exposures, awesome exp comp dial, small and fit perfectly in hand.
But it died. At least when the T4 dies on you it is $400 not $1000..
Have you put down the $6 deposit to get the Analogue AF-1 for 339 EUR? Regular retail will be 399 EUR.
They have not built the tooling and claim production release is 6/25... Also watching the interview I'm guessing their partner is either Samsung or Panasonic.
Jan 16, 2025 at 01:36 PM
p.1 #17Yashica T4
Desmolicious wrote:
That camera had flaws but I really liked it. Flaws - slooow AF (much slower than way cheaper Fujis I own), exposure LEDs in the VF that are completely invisible.
But I dealt with both by slowing down, and shooting in P mode so it didn't matter that I couldn't see the LEDs.
The camera had a killer lens, super exposures, awesome exp comp dial, small and fit perfectly in hand.
But it died. At least when the T4 dies on you it is $400 not $1000..Exactly why the Contax T2 is such a dumb purchase these days. Plus I'm years deep into the T4, it's getting cheaper to shoot with every roll through it.Have you put down the $6 deposit to get the Analogue AF-1 for 339 EUR? Regular retail will be 399 EUR.
They have not built the tooling and claim production release is 6/25... Also watching the interview I'm guessing their partner is either Samsung or Panasonic.
I haven't, I'd like to see a little more detail first (not like $6 means anything but knowing me i'll forget to cancel it if i don't want it). Yashi shows no signs of dying so won't sweat it till i need to.
RoamingScott wrote
Desmolicious wrote
Thinking about the T4, I am looking at my broken Fuji Klasse W. I keep forgetting to put it on ebay - worked last time I used it! - j/k broken selling for parts.That camera had flaws but I really liked it. Flaws - slooow AF (much slower than way cheaper Fujis I own), exposure LEDs in the VF that are completely invisible.
But I dealt with both by slowing down, and shooting in P mode so it didn't matter that I couldn't see the LEDs.
The camera had a killer lens, super exposures, awesome exp comp dial, small and fit perfectly in hand.
But it died. At least when the T4 dies on you it is $400 not $1000..
They have not built the tooling and claim production release is 6/25... Also watching the interview I'm guessing their partner is either Samsung or Panasonic.
I haven't, I'd like to see a little more detail first (not like $6 means anything but knowing me i'll forget to cancel it if i don't want it). Yashi shows no signs of dying so won't sweat it till i need to.
Jan 16, 2025 at 01:38 PM
p.1 #18Yashica T4
I had one in the film days. Nice camera. Found it in a box with unused cameras a few years ago and decided to sell it in an upcoming garage sale. Thought I’d price it around $20. Luckily I checked prices on eBay before I put it up for sale and I ended up selling it for $450 on eBay.
Personally, I see not point using a film camera as a daily driver. I use film for the tactile experience of the cameras and point and shoots don’t deliver that.
Personally, I see not point using a film camera as a daily driver. I use film for the tactile experience of the cameras and point and shoots don’t deliver that.
Jan 16, 2025 at 01:43 PM
p.1 #19Yashica T4
johnvanr wrote:
I had one in the film days.
You lost me here. These ARE the film days!
I had one in the film days.
You lost me here. These ARE the film days!
Jan 16, 2025 at 01:53 PM
p.1 #20Yashica T4
Great video Scott -- especially the innovative use of a cooking utensil! :-) -- martin
Jan 16, 2025 at 02:14 PM