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 p.3 #6 · Hasselblad X2D vs. Leica SL3...looking for thoughts and opinions....oh Gordon? | |
flash wrote:
28P, 38V, 90 3.2. Done.
That's a 22, 30 and 72mm equivalent. But they feel a smidge longer when comparing the 24x36 due to the format change.
1. All these have good to very good AF speed. Even the old 90 has decent AF.
2. It's SUPER portable for a bigger sensor system.
3. You'll tend to go a bit wider because you have gobs of resolution to play with. Even cropped to 24x36 you have 61MP!! So, I'd go the 38 over the 55 for you. You can almost think of the 28 as a 22-28 and the 38 as a 30-38, etc.
4. Based on your small format kit you tend to go for a tighter ratio in the wide end (24 to 35) and wider in the long end (35-75). This keeps that. Later you could fill out the kit with the 35-75 zoom which is huge but epic.
5. The 38V experience is as good as your Q2 in MF. Actually, maybe better. It'll be slightly longer than your Q though. I doubt you'll miss the Q2 except for a bit of size. You don't need sellers remorse with a big switch like this.
6. I really like the 28P. I have the 25 and the wide zoom but still use the 28P. If anything, the 25V would be the lens I would sell first. The 28P is just awesome on the X2D and I love the focal length. Unless you REALLY must have the f2.5 the 25mm is hard to recommend over the tiny delightful 28.
7. A 75P vs a 90 3.2 is a more difficult choice. Likely I'd go longer. Because I'd be cropping to get the field of view anyway. I like a medium range portrait lens and the 90 3.2 is a really good one. There'd have to be some lightly used 90's floating around so it'd likely be cheaper as well.
I can't in all honesty, recommend the 45's unless you get an absolute bargain, used. They're both fine optically but the AF is a frustrating experience as soon as you have something better like the 38, 28 or 25. If you think you could sell them for what you paid when you upgrade fine. But you WILL upgrade. So, if possible, go the 38 straight away. Hopefully you can find a refurb or good used one. You have KEH, which I don't have.
I would consider starting with a 38V and 90 3.2, if you need to and wait. I've done plenty of handheld stitching on the X2D. Big files but actually easy to do.
My thinking is to try and keep you with the felling of a grown up Q2/3. Just in a system rather than a fixed lens. The 38V has the functions and AF speed to do that. It seems to fit properly into your shooting envelope. Then work around that. If you only shoot 20% below 28mm then maybe a 30mm if it's cheaper than the 28P. The 90 3.2 has few compromises, so it's a good choice.
I understand finances are a big consideration but really, unless you can go for one new lens, as your primary, I'd hold off. For you I think that lens is a 38V.
Gordon...Show more →
You're pretty much in my head ... even to the point of debating the 90/75. As to the Q2, I'm good with the slightly longer 38V, and I also think this is my "optimal" choice when it comes to "which V" will I invest in. With my Q2 and my 35 Cron I sometimes wish for a "tweener" like the Pentax 31. The 38V kind sits right there.
Good to hear your take on the 28P vs. 25V. At that focal length, f/2.5 isn't a big deal. The 25V is likely a kiss more "dramatic" with foreshortening ... but, the difference isn't likely to make / break an image. Both will be a bump wider from the 38V, just the 25V is a bigger jump, but also puts bigger glass in the bag.
Your point about the MP crop expanding the "digital zoom" of 22-28 or 30-38 ... is kinda in my mind with the 75 then being in the 60-70 range. That vs. the 90 is a bit tougher decision, as the 90 is a bit more distant from the 38, for a bigger jump.
Another point about the 38V ... zone focusing. I don't see a lot of need for zone focusing with the wider 28P. Alternatively, I don't see a lot of zone focusing with the 75 or 90, either. So, in that regard ... the choice of investment into the V series, I also think the 38V makes the most sense. Time will tell if a 45/55/65 gets in the middle of things.
If I do go with the 90 > 38 jump (greater than 2X), part of me thinks I may want to split that with the 65/2.8 ... but, that's TBD. With the 75, it's right at 2X jump, and I'd likely be fine with that combo.
Things are starting to take shape ... still resonating around the grey matter, but I think you and the others are getting me dialed in to a place where I can envision a "future state" to build toward. Thanx. 
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about the X2D for the "big jump". At which point, the BSI sensor ... then puts the 28P back in the mix, since it seems to play nicer with the BSI.
. Sorry, that's probably not much help for ya.