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p.7 #1 · Pre-capture image thread...


Here is my thinking, as a birder and nothing else.
I shoot at f/4 all the time. Depth of field is very thin. If the AF in pre-capture does not work then it is useless to me. Even the slightest movement will give a soft shot. If at right angles to the focal plane then you might get lucky. And I look for those kind of shots and move to try and get the shot if I think it is possible. With my DSLR!.
Just look on this thread, it is obvious which camera the birders are using and the success they have. If the Canon was focusing in pre-capture. This thread would be drowning in pre-capture shots with Canon.
I am going to buy the R5II when I get back to the US. But, not for pre-capture.



Mar 08, 2025 at 08:48 AM
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p.7 #2 · Pre-capture image thread...


Actually Canon precapture works very well on the R1 and R5 II, I just do not post on here because everyone just shits on Canon so what is the point.

Here you go, a couple from yesterday with the R5 II and the 100-300mm + 2x.

Red Winged Blackbird by A & R Photography, on Flickr

Red Winged in the yard by A & R Photography, on Flickr



Mar 09, 2025 at 06:32 AM
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Mar 09, 2025 at 06:44 AM
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Mar 09, 2025 at 07:09 AM
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^^ That sequence is mind blowing^^
Wow!!

Karl



Mar 09, 2025 at 08:19 AM
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That is hard to believe, and sharp as a tack. Gracious


Mar 09, 2025 at 11:30 AM
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p.7 #7 · Pre-capture image thread...


See the full sequence here - check the water droplet trick…

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Much later… in swallow time.

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Mar 09, 2025 at 05:18 PM
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p.7 #8 · Pre-capture image thread...


Fairy Martin - having a splash !



Phenomenal tracking - as always

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Mar 10, 2025 at 04:09 AM
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duncangr wrote:
Fairy Martin - having a splash !



Phenomenal tracking - as always

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I have seen a few people who have bought the A1II and are disappointed by the Pre-capture AF consistency and accuracy. Is it your opinion that the A9III is way ahead of the A1II in these sort of situations? I've not upgraded from the A1 to the A1II because I did not expect the AF to be significantly improved beyond AI subject recognition but some claim the A1II is just as good as the A9III. E.g. - https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/68167992

I would like to get pre-capture but I don't want to go back to 24mp. Can the A1II produce these kind of shots?



Mar 10, 2025 at 04:51 AM
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somersettr wrote:
I have seen a few people who have bought the A1II and are disappointed by the Pre-capture AF consistency and accuracy. Is it your opinion that the A9III is way ahead of the A1II in these sort of situations? I've not upgraded from the A1 to the A1II because I did not expect the AF to be significantly improved beyond AI subject recognition but some claim the A1II is just as good as the A9III. E.g. - https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/68167992

I would like to get pre-capture but I don't want to go back to 24mp. Can the A1II produce these kind of shots?


From my still limited experience I would say it certainly can....BUT at 30FPS you aren't going to get as good of a sequence as you can at 60 or 120FPS on an A9III. I mean the A1 (OG) can get those types of sequences but you miss some of the good stuff without precapture.

So far A1II precapture has got me some challenging straight at me finch shots against messy backgrounds so I know the A1II will be able to pull off sequences with much cleaner water backgrounds. Swallows just starting to arrive in my neck of the woods so more coming soon....




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Mar 11, 2025 at 08:48 AM
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Geoff, nice set of images, would you care to share your AF settings for you A1 II ? These coming at you shots I find are the hardest for the camera to maintain focus on the subject, I usually find I'll have one or two frames that are not quite as sharp but them the camera catches up and they continue to be tack sharp.


Mar 11, 2025 at 02:01 PM
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MIRANDA1 wrote:
Geoff, nice set of images, would you care to share your AF settings for you A1 II ? These coming at you shots I find are the hardest for the camera to maintain focus on the subject, I usually find I'll have one or two frames that are not quite as sharp but them the camera catches up and they continue to be tack sharp.


This is what I had set when I took those shots:

AF Lvl for Crossing: 1(locked on)
AF Trk for Spd Chng: Responsive

Under the Bird settings:
Tracking Shift Range: 2
Tracking Persistence Lvl: 4
Recognition Sensitivity: 5(High)
Most of the time I use Head/Eye, Sometimes use Body/Head/Eye

But in discussion on a different thread some have recommended trying Persistence Lvl at 1 so I'm going to try that.
Problem is with so many settings it is really hard to test unless one has a very consistent subject that is also difficult enough to make a difference.

I do also notice that the first few frames of the launch (more so with straight on launches) more often lag behind but then it catches up. I had a couple launches where it did keep up right away but the majority took a few frames before it caught up. I certainly don't have entire sequences that are all sharp on the head for every frame. Sometimes focus is lagging just a little bit on the body but with such narrow FOV that ruins the head sharpness.



Mar 11, 2025 at 03:48 PM
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R1 + RF 400 + 2x using precapture

Cardinal giving me the eye by A & R Photography, on Flickr



Mar 14, 2025 at 06:20 AM
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RobAmy wrote:
R1 + RF 400 + 2x using precapture

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54385836071_721d5ae64b_h.jpgCardinal giving me the eye by A & R Photography, on Flickr


You were correct when you once stated the RF400 was very sharp with both extenders. This picture is very sharp. Thanks for sharing.



Mar 14, 2025 at 06:52 AM
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20250314-2025314_Downsview Park_00094 by Jose Raposo, on Flickr


Mar 15, 2025 at 01:46 AM
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Crimson Bullet by A & R Photography, on Flickr

Goldfinch by A & R Photography, on Flickr

Red Winged Blackbird taking off by A & R Photography, on Flickr



Mar 15, 2025 at 07:08 AM
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RobAmy wrote:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54387950006_b5078e020b_h.jpgCrimson Bullet by A & R Photography, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54387935391_a38f005d50_h.jpgGoldfinch by A & R Photography, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54388165833_3b5908073f_h.jpgRed Winged Blackbird taking off by A & R Photography, on Flickr


Great work Rob.



Mar 15, 2025 at 07:45 AM
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ezgif.com-animated-gif-maker by Bird/Wildlife Photos, on Flickr




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