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Thypoch Simera 50mm f/1.4 ASPH. Review

  
 
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p.16 #1 · Thypoch Simera 50mm f/1.4 ASPH. Review


Tariq Gibran wrote:
Fred, I'm very much looking forward to your review of the Simera 28mm. I have held off on purchasing it - though I know optically I will probably love the rendering- as my previous experience with the infinity style lock has been frustrating in use when adapted to other bodies where infinity focus is sometimes a tiny bit closer than indicated. I understand Thypoch will eventually change this lens over to using the focusing style tab and I wish they would hurry it and do so. If you have a contact at Thypoch, perhaps you could ask them when
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Quite curious about this myself, I have my eye on the 35 but I don't think I can handle the lock/different tab.



Nov 22, 2024 at 02:01 PM
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p.16 #2 · Thypoch Simera 50mm f/1.4 ASPH. Review


Tariq Gibran wrote:
Fred, I'm very much looking forward to your review of the Simera 28mm. I have held off on purchasing it - though I know optically I will probably love the rendering- as my previous experience with the infinity style lock has been frustrating in use when adapted to other bodies where infinity focus is sometimes a tiny bit closer than indicated. I understand Thypoch will eventually change this lens over to using the focusing style tab and I wish they would hurry it and do so. If you have a contact at Thypoch, perhaps you could ask them when
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Yes, I have a contact at Thypoch and have already asked this question. I’ll update you as soon as I get an answer.



Nov 22, 2024 at 04:15 PM
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p.16 #3 · Thypoch Simera 50mm f/1.4 ASPH. Review


Got a 2nd copy of the Thypoch 50. This one focuses slightly past infinity. However, when you dial it back and focus at infinity, sharper than the 50 Lux ASPH in the mid range and the edges. These pictures were taken seconds apart. The flare is interesting, after I took the Thypoch shot I took the 50 Lux again, looks identical to the first shot. They definitely handle the sun very differently at the edges

50 Lux ASPH







50 Thypoch







50 Lux ASPH right edge at f/5.6...left looks similar







50 Thypoch f/5.6








Nov 22, 2024 at 06:02 PM
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p.16 #4 · Thypoch Simera 50mm f/1.4 ASPH. Review


wide open

50 Lux ASPH








50 Thypoch







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Nov 22, 2024 at 06:07 PM
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p.16 #5 · Thypoch Simera 50mm f/1.4 ASPH. Review


50 Lux ASPH







50 Thypoch








Nov 22, 2024 at 06:08 PM
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p.16 #6 · Thypoch Simera 50mm f/1.4 ASPH. Review


both shots wide open

50 Lux ASPH







50 Thypoch








Nov 22, 2024 at 06:10 PM
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p.16 #7 · Thypoch Simera 50mm f/1.4 ASPH. Review


50 Lux at f/5.6. This looks much sharper at original size than the Thypoch and the microcontrast is much more present







50 Thypoch at f/5.6











Nov 22, 2024 at 06:16 PM
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p.16 #8 · Thypoch Simera 50mm f/1.4 ASPH. Review


its impossible to see at web image, but in Lightroom I see a noticeable difference in sharpness to the benefit of the Lux at near to mid distance. At infinity, I think center looks ever so slightly better on the Lux but mid range and edges clearly look better on the Thypoch, even at f/5.6.

I have the black chrome 50 Lux and I love the handling and the feel of the lens, like it much better than the standard 50 Lux ASPH. That being said, if someone were starting a kit for the M system and were asking advice as to 50 Lux or Thypoch, no doubt I would recommend the Thypoch. Price difference isn't justified my opinion



Nov 22, 2024 at 06:18 PM
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p.16 #9 · Thypoch Simera 50mm f/1.4 ASPH. Review


f/4

50 Lux ASPH







left mid range







50 Thypoch







left mid range








Nov 22, 2024 at 06:29 PM
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p.16 #10 · Thypoch Simera 50mm f/1.4 ASPH. Review


in ideal situations I think we have seen both lenses render very similarly, in harsher conditions there are definitely differences


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p.16 #11 · Thypoch Simera 50mm f/1.4 ASPH. Review


rsolti13 wrote:
f/4

50 Lux ASPH

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-5HbctRt/0/NB8Ghcqm3nSXPcxKxbGPvLKScVFsP3MQ7972HM4Rx/X5/i-5HbctRt-X5.jpg

left mid range

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-NhrnZcC/0/L2pr97JCxcmVW5pcBQXN7C8K3MxwJJXMVQBqFMhzz/X5/i-NhrnZcC-X5.jpg

50 Thypoch

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-fprksvf/0/L79x8n9BT9tTJbfk29TVSqPQZLz95nm985WjsZk76/X5/i-fprksvf-X5.jpg

left mid range

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-DTfLwkr/0/MswGhn52mnQCsC2HbwHpZRp8JRd7KRZwFhtT2WhtG/X5/i-DTfLwkr-X5.jpg


One major difference here is the Thypoch seems to be creating rays from the aperture whereas the Lux does not create these rays. It may well be related to why the Thypoch produces stronger sunstars at this aperture as well.



Nov 22, 2024 at 08:48 PM
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p.16 #12 · Thypoch Simera 50mm f/1.4 ASPH. Review


rsolti13 wrote:
wide open

50 Lux ASPH

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-2gpQ5gk/0/Ndk5j9DSWb3Dj9vQFFLtS4kfVshLrXv4rv3fM9MQJ/X5/i-2gpQ5gk-X5.jpg

50 Thypoch

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-kNxMdMx/0/L7CMjDf2cW2XkbChqnNqjf9SXm9HV5r4Z8RS4ZPTx/X5/i-kNxMdMx-X5.jpg


I see more separation on the 50 Lux, but you should be posting these without telling us which is which—always fun, even at web sizes, to see if we can distinguish



Nov 22, 2024 at 10:10 PM
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p.16 #13 · Thypoch Simera 50mm f/1.4 ASPH. Review


Fred, at some stage maybe we can do a Simera image thread, to serve all focal lengths and mounts?

It seems to work better than the review-cum-explanatory and analytical 'Leica versus xx' comparison page format, that then morphs into an image thread, often unsuccessfully because it tries to do so much. Some just want to see the images.

Such a thread could serve as a rare repository of actual photographic images from these very interesting (if maligned) lenses, which are of course made for all mounts these days.



Nov 23, 2024 at 05:06 PM
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p.16 #14 · Thypoch Simera 50mm f/1.4 ASPH. Review


philip_pj wrote:
Fred, at some stage maybe we can do a Simera image thread, to serve all focal lengths and mounts?

It seems to work better than the review-cum-explanatory and analytical 'Leica versus xx' comparison page format, that then morphs into an image thread, often unsuccessfully because it tries to do so much. Some just want to see the images.

Such a thread could serve as a rare repository of actual photographic images from these very interesting (if maligned) lenses, which are of course made for all mounts these days.


I'm confident that many Simera 50mm f/1.4 owners will keep sharing their sample photos here. I'll also keep updating the review's first page with links to these sample images.



Nov 23, 2024 at 05:41 PM
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p.16 #15 · Thypoch Simera 50mm f/1.4 ASPH. Review


My review is out now as well.
Not sure there are any news for those that already had a look at Fred's review though

https://phillipreeve.net/blog/review-thypoch-simera-50mm-1-4/



Nov 24, 2024 at 04:24 AM
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p.16 #16 · Thypoch Simera 50mm f/1.4 ASPH. Review


M11 + Thypoch Simera 50/1.4







Nov 24, 2024 at 07:35 AM
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p.16 #17 · Thypoch Simera 50mm f/1.4 ASPH. Review



Fred Miranda wrote:
I'm confident that many Simera 50mm f/1.4 owners will keep sharing their sample photos here. I'll also keep updating the review's first page with links to these sample images.



For me the experimental/testing phase with this lens is complete. It has earned a place in my bag. So, I have started posting my Simera images in the regular Leica image thread. I will note which lens was used for each image as I always do.



Nov 24, 2024 at 09:41 AM
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p.16 #18 · Thypoch Simera 50mm f/1.4 ASPH. Review


BastianK wrote:
My review is out now as well.
Not sure there are any news for those that already had a look at Fred's review though

https://phillipreeve.net/blog/review-thypoch-simera-50mm-1-4/


There is. You answered the coma question and when it comes to coma correction the Thypoch is not the Summilux.




Nov 24, 2024 at 11:18 AM
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p.16 #19 · Thypoch Simera 50mm f/1.4 ASPH. Review


BastianK wrote:
My review is out now as well.
Not sure there are any news for those that already had a look at Fred's review though

https://phillipreeve.net/blog/review-thypoch-simera-50mm-1-4/


"This is the do-it-all 50mm M-mount lens for me."

None is ever perfect in all things ... but, that's a pretty good endorsement (particularly with the disdain for the dof scale factored in).



Nov 24, 2024 at 12:18 PM
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p.16 #20 · Thypoch Simera 50mm f/1.4 ASPH. Review


BastianK wrote:
My review is out now as well.

"This is the do-it-all 50mm M-mount lens for me."




I think for me too.
























Nov 24, 2024 at 01:38 PM
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