Can anyone answer this really annoying question (which I’m sure is a setting I’ve missed but it’s driving me bonkers for ages.)
Firstly I'll preface by saying that "extended menu banks" setting is set to "ON" on both the Z9 and Z8 in both the Photo and Video shooting menus.
OK, so on my Z9, if I have the Photo/Video switch on the back of the camera set to photo mode and say I'm shooting in shutter priority mode, if I then flick the photo/video switch across to movie mode, it will remember the last program mode (PASM) I had set for movies, which in this case might be manual mode [M]. Then when I flick the switch back to photos it goes right back to the mode where I last left off (in the example above, back to Shutter Priority mode [S]). All good.
However, try as I might on my Z8, whatever shooting mode I’m in when in photo mode, say shutter mode [S] again, then flick the switch across to movie mode, it brings over the same PASM shooting mode I was set to in Photo mode (i.e. it doesn't separate the PASM shooting modes between Photo and Video modes like it does on the Z9 ?). If I then change the shooting mode in Video to say manual [M] then when I’m done go back to photo mode, then it carries the [M] mode back across and not the mode I last had it set at [S] ?
Like I say I’m sure it’s a setting I’ve missed but I can’t for the life of me see where ? Can anyone help as like I say it's driving me bonkers. I also have a Sony A7RV (for other reasons), and whilst the Z8 bests it in many ways, one great thing about the Sony, is that there is a small menu item that basically says "separate the settings for photo and video shooting", meaning when I flick between both modes, each is already fully set up to how I shoot in that mode - so much easier and simpler.
Sootchucker wrote:
Can anyone answer this really annoying question (which I’m sure is a setting I’ve missed but it’s driving me bonkers for ages.)
Firstly I'll preface by saying that "extended menu banks" setting is set to "ON" on both the Z9 and Z8 in both the Photo and Video shooting menus.
OK, so on my Z9, if I have the Photo/Video switch on the back of the camera set to photo mode and say I'm shooting in shutter priority mode, if I then flick the photo/video switch across to movie mode, it will remember the last program mode (PASM) I had set for movies, which in this case might be manual mode [M]. Then when I flick the switch back to photos it goes right back to the mode where I last left off (in the example above, back to Shutter Priority mode [S]). All good.
However, try as I might on my Z8, whatever shooting mode I’m in when in photo mode, say shutter mode [S] again, then flick the switch across to movie mode, it brings over the same PASM shooting mode I was set to in Photo mode (i.e. it doesn't separate the PASM shooting modes between Photo and Video modes like it does on the Z9 ?). If I then change the shooting mode in Video to say manual [M] then when I’m done go back to photo mode, then it carries the [M] mode back across and not the mode I last had it set at [S] ?
Like I say I’m sure it’s a setting I’ve missed but I can’t for the life of me see where ? Can anyone help as like I say it's driving me bonkers. I also have a Sony A7RV (for other reasons), and whilst the Z8 bests it in many ways, one great thing about the Sony, is that there is a small menu item that basically says "separate the settings for photo and video shooting", meaning when I flick between both modes, each is already fully set up to how I shoot in that mode - so much easier and simpler....Show more →
For some reason the Z8 doesn't separate this setting between the photo and video modes, which indeed is annoying. I suppose what you can do is make a feature request to Nikon to allow the user to change this behavior. From my point of view it's a bug or oversight.
Agreed, thanks. I thought that was the whole point of the "extended menus banks" setting ? According to the Z8 manual it says:
Changes to exposure settings will be stored in the bank currently selected for [Shooting Menu Bank]. The settings stored in the bank will be recalled the next time the bank is selected.
The additional settings stored in extended banks for use in [Photo mode] are:
- shooting mode
- shutter speed (modes S and M only), and
- aperture (modes A and M only)
The additional settings stored in extended banks for use in [Video mode] are:
- shooting mode
- shutter speed (mode M only), and
- aperture (modes A and M only)
The above is identical to what it says in the Z9 manual where it works as expected ?
Sootchucker wrote:
Agreed, thanks. I thought that was the whole point of the "extended menus banks" setting ? According to the Z8 manual it says:
Changes to exposure settings will be stored in the bank currently selected for [Shooting Menu Bank]. The settings stored in the bank will be recalled the next time the bank is selected.
The additional settings stored in extended banks for use in [Photo mode] are:
- shooting mode
- shutter speed (modes S and M only), and
- aperture (modes A and M only)
The additional settings stored in extended banks for use in [Video mode] are:
- shooting mode - shutter speed (mode M only), and
- aperture (modes A and M only)
The above is identical to what it says in the Z9 manual where it works as expected ?...Show more →
Shooting menu banks are a mechanism for memorizing the settings across different memory bank settings which are A, B, C, etc. These settings can be switched as a group by selecting the active shooting bank (i.e. with a custom function button setting or from the menu). This mechanism is separate from the video/photo memory settings which are memorized independently from the shooting banks, with the exception of the exposure mode which for some reason is not memorized (which is absurd).
Thanks, yes I understand how they work, and as you say, for some strange reason the Exposure mode settings are not saved (PASM), even though on the Z9 (which from a DNA point of view is identical in many ways), it works exactly that way.
On my Z9 I can be in say Bank A, in [S] mode at 1/1000 sec in photo mode, flick the photo/video switch on the back to go the video mode, and it defaults to my last used A bank setting for video which is currently [M] mode and 1/125 sec (for 4K 60P), then flick the switch back to photo, and it goes back to [S] mode and 1/1000 sec ?
Hopefully they will make the Z8 like the Z9 in a firmware update down the road. For the record, I’m not a huge fan of how Nikon has set up the menu banks to operate.
Oh, don't get me wrong, I much prefer the U1-U3 user settings method of say the Z6 & Z7 models, but we don't get that on the Z8, so we have what we have (unfortunately).
