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Questions for Canon EOS R8 owners

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p.2 #1 · p.2 #1 · Questions for Canon EOS R8 owners

lsquare wrote:
Thanks for the help. I didn't know you have the R8. Your profile says you have the R5.
I don't own the R8. I did do my research though, I know my reviewers also from stuff I do own, and I know enough forum members from different fora well enough to have an idea what's trustworthy and what's not.

At some point the increase of data points of often enough checked data sources is more worth to me than just my own experience only. My experience is important though to check those data sources, not only gear performance ;-).

I won't do all the labour to mention all those sources, as this is a free advice, and it's worth what you've payed for it. :-) At the end of the day this contribution for you is just one point of data only, and the way to check that point of data is to hire the R8 and other stuff and do the testing yourself.

Aug 22, 2024 at 07:07 AM

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p.2 #2 · p.2 #2 · Questions for Canon EOS R8 owners

Just wondering: if you're considering lenses like the 85/1.2 and 28-70/2, going with Canon's most compact FF camera (R8) doesn't really seem to provide performance benefits when in comparison you could instead consider the R6II. The large lenses will be a bit more comfortable with the larger camera, which will also have a better UI/UX with the addition of rear joystick, dials, buttons and proper optional vertical grip, IBIS, full mechanical shutter, better battery performance, etc.

Aug 22, 2024 at 08:33 AM

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p.2 #3 · p.2 #3 · Questions for Canon EOS R8 owners

lsquare wrote:
Is the R8 compatible with the Canon BR-E1 Bluetooth Remote Control? Can I use the BR-E1 to wirelessly trigger the seven-frame auto exposure bracket?

Yes to both.

Aug 22, 2024 at 01:13 PM

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p.2 #4 · p.2 #4 · Questions for Canon EOS R8 owners

lsquare wrote:
It doesn't seem like Canon's marketing is consistent about the weather-sealing of this camera. I think Canon Europe mentioned it, but I don't think Canon USA has anything about the topic. Of course, it's probably unrealistic to expect an R3 level of weather sealing at this price point. What do you guys think?

R8 does not have any gaskets on the battery door, R7 and better models have gaskets. So, I think there is no weather sealing in R8. I purchased R8 as a second body. My main camera was R7 for birding. Recently sold my R7 after using R8 for a year or so. I like R8's sensor and size so much that I stopped using R7. I use it mainly with RF 100-500L+1.4x and sometimes with RF 24-105L while traveling. Both are medium sized lenses, and I think they are perfectly fine with R8. I like being able to put all this stuff in a small backpack.

One of the main problems is the battery. Third party batteries usually don't show the remaining amount, so the camera will shut down without any warnings if the battery is low. But I can take thousands of photos using ES in bursts with a single battery.

Aug 22, 2024 at 02:07 PM

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Aug 22, 2024 at 06:45 PM

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p.2 #6 · p.2 #6 · Questions for Canon EOS R8 owners

I really like Steamtrain's points abou the R8 + the compact/cheap primes being a bit of a conundrum. The lenses are small and good enough, but none of the SMALL primes that the R8 really benefits from (size-wise) are great, none of them have IS, and when you look at the system from the outside, you realize that it has a hard time competing with a lot of the other options out there- from Sony, Nikon, even the crop Fuji system just makes more sense IMO.

If you are fine not having IBIS or OIS, and want a small system, there's better options around. If you are fine with big heavy lenses (clearly you are), there's bodies that make more sense. The R8 is a decent entry to the R system, if that's what you are looking for, but unless you are cool with the MANY compromises that Canon made on it, I would not think you will enjoy it long-term.

Aug 23, 2024 at 12:05 AM

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p.2 #7 · p.2 #7 · Questions for Canon EOS R8 owners

I took the R8 to Argentina earlier this year. This was the trip that basically sold me on the camera. Here are a few images (with apologies to those who have already seen this):

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1851156/1#16513158

Aug 23, 2024 at 12:12 AM

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p.2 #8 · p.2 #8 · Questions for Canon EOS R8 owners

rscheffler wrote:
Just wondering: if you're considering lenses like the 85/1.2 and 28-70/2, going with Canon's most compact FF camera (R8) doesn't really seem to provide performance benefits when in comparison you could instead consider the R6II.

The R8 has two obvious benefits:
- a lower price (which could actually help to get an f/2.0 zoom in stead of f/2.8 for instance)
- a more compact combo when you do mount a more compact lens.

rscheffler wrote:
The large lenses will be a bit more comfortable with the larger camera,

Simply find the centre of gravity. You can't shoot with one hand anyway when using these lenses. At the end of the day a lighter camera results in a lower total weight.

rscheffler wrote:
which will also have a better UI/UX with the addition of rear joystick, dials, buttons

The question is: how many dials and buttons do you need? One dial can act as two as the function changes pushing the mf-n button. There's also a ring on the lenses (or control ring adapter). So that's three. In Av + auto ISO you need one for the aperture and one for EC, and that's it. And if you need a filter anyway because of the lack of a full mechanical shutter that's an extra point of control for exposure as well.

rscheffler wrote:
and proper optional vertical grip,

Nice, but not needed. I never shoot with a grip, and I do shoot with 40&105mm Art lenses.

rscheffler wrote:
IBIS,

Yes, that's a downside, but it depends on the use case if it's a deal breaker. When shooting fast glass worrying about the lack of a full mechanical shutter this isn't your biggest problem.
rscheffler wrote:
full mechanical shutter,

You can work around this with filters, and the brightest light often isn't the best light anyway.
rscheffler wrote:
better battery performance,

buy some spares
rscheffler wrote:
etc.
In my market the price difference between the R8 and R6II is around 700 euro. I think that's substantial for camera's having identical sensor performance and AF performance. An extra spare battery, good filters for f/1.2 lenses (f/2.0 doesn't need one) cost money as well of course, and no IBIS can be a downside for sure, however it simply depends on the use case if the downsides of the R8 outweigh the higher price of the R6II.

Aug 23, 2024 at 02:49 PM

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p.2 #9 · p.2 #9 · Questions for Canon EOS R8 owners

garyvot wrote:
I took the R8 to Argentina earlier this year. This was the trip that basically sold me on the camera. Here are a few images (with apologies to those who have already seen this):

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1851156/1#16513158

Your link doesn't seem to work.

Aug 23, 2024 at 05:15 PM

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p.2 #10 · p.2 #10 · Questions for Canon EOS R8 owners

steamtrain wrote:
The R8 has two obvious benefits:
- a lower price (which could actually help to get an f/2.0 zoom in stead of f/2.8 for instance)
- a more compact combo when you do mount a more compact lens.

Simply find the centre of gravity. You can't shoot with one hand anyway when using these lenses. At the end of the day a lighter camera results in a lower total weight.

The question is: how many dials and buttons do you need? One dial can act as two as the function changes pushing the mf-n button. There's also a ring on the...Show more →

It all depends on what the OP wants to do. They are not you and neither am I, so what works for you may not apply to others. The two fast lenses specifically mentioned by the OP do not have optical IS, and one doesn't always use them in bright conditions where shutter speed is not a concern. I for one, often use the 28-70/2 wide open indoors at high ISO and am still below 1/250 or 1/125 and appreciate having the option of IBIS, as well as a rear dial, joystick, etc. Or I'll use it handheld on hikes with a polarizing filter and stopped down at low ISO where the shutter speed might be 1/60 and lower. But that's me. Many rave about the R8 and I don't discount the benefit it offers with smaller size, weight and fewer control points if the tradeoffs are acceptable for your needs. It's certainly the most compact FF option from Canon and I totally agree with your points about it being let down somewhat by the lack of higher performance yet compact lens options for the RF mount.

Aug 23, 2024 at 10:28 PM

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p.2 #11 · p.2 #11 · Questions for Canon EOS R8 owners

rscheffler wrote:
It all depends on what the OP wants to do. They are not you and neither am I, so what works for you may not apply to others. The two fast lenses specifically mentioned by the OP do not have optical IS, and one doesn't always use them in bright conditions where shutter speed is not a concern. I for one, often use the 28-70/2 wide open indoors at high ISO and am still below 1/250 or 1/125 and appreciate having the option of IBIS, as well as a rear dial, joystick, etc. Or I'll use it handheld on hikes...Show more →
As far as I can see there's nothing we disagree on. Just accentuating different aspects.

Aug 25, 2024 at 08:06 AM

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p.2 #12 · p.2 #12 · Questions for Canon EOS R8 owners

OP asked questions for R8 owners to answer, and got a bunch of (IMO) good insight. What OP does with this is up to them lol.

I personally learned a lot from my R8 owning experience. It's just too compromised of a camera for me. Going into it, I didn't think the EVF would be of the slightest concern, but it literally caused me eye pain. I have LASIK-corrected vision, no other camera has caused this level of eye-strain. I fiddled with the diopter adjustment and could never find a setting that did not bother my eyes. It helps that unlike most of their cameras, Canon did not think to indicate a "zero" point on the EVF diopter for the R8. R50 has it, R7 has it.... why not the 8?

Aug 27, 2024 at 05:47 PM

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