retrofocus wrote:
Yes, this existed - a black Leica logo with white Leica font. Unfortunately this is no longer made and distributed by Leica even many I read requested it. I believe Leica might have felt that this compromised their brand to some degree - maybe because higher priced M-P versions don't have the logo and by replacing a red one with a less conspicuous black one would be less impelled buying the M-P....not sure.
Leica then used the black dot on a few of their limited edition Q cameras, so I think they just want them for that to keep the exclusivity.
OwlsEyes wrote:
Thanks to everyone who replied...
I was wondering if I was missing something. I had owned the M246 for a short time before returning it for the M10, and thought the body was stunning with its all black Bauhaus-like design and wish my M10 was more like this. However, I'm not willing to pay a premium for the cosmetic enhancements. On the other hand, I know the M10R is significantly different than my M10... I just don't need another 40MP+ sensor, I've got that type of resolution covered with my Z9/Z8.
As a person/photographer that has played around with (read as owned...) the M8, CL digital, SL, SL2, SL2s, and M246, I personally believe that the M10 is the best Leica camera I have ever owned. It feels great in the hand, customizable enough, has a good rangefinder, and is surprisingly responsive. While this is "other" camera, I am constantly looking for ways to use it when I'm out photographing wildlife, landscapes, or just walking to the coffee shop.
BTW... other than putting gaffers tape on the red dot, is there a way to turn that red Leica Logo black?... this it the one cosmetic enhancement that interests me.
cheers,
bruce
The problem with painting the red dot black is that it is a permanent change. If the camera is considered for resale at some point, the prospective buyer might prefer the original red dot. The black dot had the advantage it could be replaced quite easily again with the original red button in reverse.
retrofocus wrote:
The problem with painting the red dot black is that it is a permanent change. If the camera is considered for resale at some point, the prospective buyer might prefer the original red dot. The black dot had the advantage it could be replaced quite easily again with the original red button in reverse.
You can buy the red dots for $20 from DAG. Leica has no problem selling the red dots.
So paint it black, have a spare red on hand if you feel frisky.
OwlsEyes wrote:
Looks nice, but definitely not worth the time and effort... black tape it is
I came to the same conclusion in the past. One advice: when using gaffer tape, make sure you put a sized tape strip fitting the dot on the glue side of the front tape. This way you avoid that some of the dot's paint is ripped away when removing the gaffer tape. Or in other words: only tape the left and right ends of the gaffer tape on the camera body.
OwlsEyes wrote:
Looks nice, but definitely not worth the time and effort... black tape it is
It's much easier than the video shows. Just remove the red Leica dot and soak it in acetone for a while. The paint will come right off. Then, spray paint it with matte black paint that includes primer, applying a few coats. It's easy to get an even coat. Once it's dry, turn the dot upside down and run it on sandpaper to remove the black paint from the Leica name only. That's it. It will look like it was made by Leica. You can use a glossier black if you prefer, but make sure to get good quality spray paint.
Fred Miranda wrote:
It's much easier than the video shows. Just remove the red Leica dot and soak it in acetone for a while. The paint will come right off. Then, spray paint it with matte black paint that includes primer, applying a few coats. It's easy to get an even coat. Once it's dry, turn the dot upside down and run it on sandpaper to remove the black paint from the Leica name only. That's it. It will look like it was made by Leica. You can use a glossier black if you prefer, but make sure to get good quality spray paint....Show more →
What type of glue do you use to put the dot back in place... or does it twist into place?
Hey guys I have a similar question... found a black paint M10-R that has some brassing. Serial number is also 5511xxx but most of the other M10-R BP's I've seen online have a serial starting with 565xxxx. With only 2000 M10-R BP's made, does this make sense? or is this just a case of Leica having 1 serial number range for all their cameras and hence the wide range for M10-R BP's?
EDIT: Seller showed pictures to me with matching serial number on the camera, outer box, inner box and authenticity card so seems legit to me...
Wiring8554 wrote:
I ended up going through with my purchase of the BP m10r. If it makes you feel better, mine has a serial number of 5511557 so yours could be legit.
Awesome thank you! I just got it... mine's not in like new condition and had some brassing but I felt it looked good.
Strange the top plate has brassing but the bottom doesn't... previous owner must have had it in a half case... anyway I'm looking forward to wearing this thing in even more!
tangfj wrote:
Awesome thank you! I just got it... mine's not in like new condition and had some brassing but I felt it looked good.
Strange the top plate has brassing but the bottom doesn't... previous owner must have had it in a half case... anyway I'm looking forward to wearing this thing in even more!
I think it looks great. Did you ask him if he intentionally removed the paint to reveal the brass in those areas? I've been using my M10-R BP daily for over a year, and I haven’t noticed any paint loss yet. No half case of accessories for the most part.
Fred Miranda wrote:
I think it looks great. Did you ask him if he intentionally removed the paint to reveal the brass in those areas? I've been using my M10-R BP daily for over a year, and I haven’t noticed any paint loss yet. No half case of accessories for the most part.
I bought through a dealer so unfortunately I don't know if the brassing was intentional or not... looking closely at the finish it's hard to tell so if it was intentional they did a good job!
tangfj wrote:
I bought through a dealer so unfortunately I don't know if the brassing was intentional or not... looking closely at the finish it's hard to tell so if it was intentional they did a good job!
I wish I’d start seeing some patina on mine. Even with extensive daily use and travel, I haven’t seen a mark on it. The paint seems to be very resistant, even more so than the black paint on my M-D.
I heard from a buddy of mine, a long time leica user, that the black paint leica used on older film models was different than the black paint they use on the more recent ones. Maybe the old chemicals they used would wear off more.
