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p.1 #1 · Valoi Easy 35 but for 120 camera scanning setup


Has anyone tried the Black Box 120 from Black Scale Lab? It’s like the Valoi but for medium format film. https://www.blackscalelab.com/product-page/ships-in-3-4-weeks-blackbox-120-system-for-high-quality-dslr-mirrorless-scannin

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Jul 10, 2024 at 04:40 PM
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p.1 #2 · Valoi Easy 35 but for 120 camera scanning setup


sputnik wrote:
Has anyone tried the Black Box 120 from Black Scale Lab? It’s like the Valoi but for medium format film. https://www.blackscalelab.com/product-page/ships-in-3-4-weeks-blackbox-120-system-for-high-quality-dslr-mirrorless-scannin


Maybe post in the "Film Not Dead Forum" https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/board/36/ to have some response.



Jul 10, 2024 at 07:51 PM
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ocean2059 wrote:
Maybe post in the "Film Not Dead Forum" https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/board/36/ to have some response.


Yeah, thanks – that was my intention 🤦‍♂️. User error on my part.



Jul 11, 2024 at 12:24 AM
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p.1 #4 · Valoi Easy 35 but for 120 camera scanning setup


I have the Valoi Easy 35mm and highly recommend it. I've tried many scanning solutions, and while I was satisfied with them, the Valoi is the fastest and easiest way to scan my film. The best part is that I don't need to cut my film before scanning. I develop the film, dry it, and run the entire roll through their system.


Jul 11, 2024 at 02:14 AM
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I have the Valoi Easy 35mm and highly recommend it. I've tried many scanning solutions, and while I was satisfied with them, the Valoi is the fastest and easiest way to scan my film. The best part is that I don't need to cut my film before scanning. I develop the film, dry it, and run the entire roll through their system.


Having tried all kinds of solutions I ended up backing the Negative Supply Kickstarter, and at the time it was the best option for my needs. But not having to fiddle with alignement and a copy stand etc makes the the Valoi really interesting. But so far it’s only for 35mm. I’ve been looking for a 120 setup with the same sort of arrangement. The one I linked to above is the first one I’ve seen.



Jul 11, 2024 at 02:41 AM
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p.1 #6 · Valoi Easy 35 but for 120 camera scanning setup


sputnik wrote:
Has anyone tried the Black Box 120 from Black Scale Lab? It’s like the Valoi but for medium format film. https://www.blackscalelab.com/product-page/ships-in-3-4-weeks-blackbox-120-system-for-high-quality-dslr-mirrorless-scannin


I can speak to this. I bought the Black Box 120 scanning kit at the beginning of the year. The reason was because I shoot a lot of 645, and 645 negatives on roll film are, for lack of a better term, rotated 90 degrees. To maximize my camera's sensor with scanning the 645 negatives, I would have to rotate my camera 90 degrees on the copy stand, and with my current set-up for 35mm scanning, that required using an L-bracket and a lot of fiddling around with the camera.

I'm happy with the Black Box 120 because I don't have to worry about alignment issues. However, I don't use the light source or the film holder tray that came with Black Box 120 kit - I just use the flat base and the extension tubes. I use the Negative Supply 4X5 light source, and the very basic Valoi 120 film holder (with some rubber bands to keep them together), and I set the BB 120 flat base and extension tubes on top, with other means of support, and center everything so it's sturdy. The system works very well for me, but I'm not sure it's worth the money since I'm using only half the kit. But it does make scanning 120 film quick and easy.



Jul 12, 2024 at 01:07 PM
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acanton wrote:
I can speak to this. I bought the Black Box 120 scanning kit at the beginning of the year. The reason was because I shoot a lot of 645, and 645 negatives on roll film are, for lack of a better term, rotated 90 degrees. To maximize my camera's sensor with scanning the 645 negatives, I would have to rotate my camera 90 degrees on the copy stand, and with my current set-up for 35mm scanning, that required using an L-bracket and a lot of fiddling around with the camera.

I'm happy with the Black Box 120 because I don't
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Interesting use for sure. My main format in 120 is 6x6 so camera orientation is a non issue for me. Why made you decide not to use the included film holder? Was it because (as I understand it) it only handles strips and not uncut rolls?


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Jul 12, 2024 at 03:15 PM
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p.1 #8 · Valoi Easy 35 but for 120 camera scanning setup


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Interesting use dor sure. My main format in 120 is 6x6 so camera orientation is a non issue for me. Why made you decide not to use the included film holder? Was it because (as I understand it) it only handles strips and not uncut rolls?


Exactly. I don't cut the rolls until I'm ready to catalog them. Also, I feel that the film holder trays, that are originally to be used for flatbed scanners, don't keep the film as flat as my Valoi film holder. If I was shooting 6x6 or anything larger, I don't think I would have ever gotten the Black Box 120 scanning kit. It was only because of the predicament I was in and the orientation of the 6X4.5 negatives that made me go for it. But it's a well thought-out, high quality design/system (except the tray holder, imo).




Jul 12, 2024 at 04:02 PM
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p.1 #9 · Valoi Easy 35 but for 120 camera scanning setup


Valoi is currently working on a 120 version of their easy35 system. It's currently in the prototype phase but if I recall correctly, I think they mentioned the first batch was projected to be ready in October. There is more information on it here - https://www.valoi.co/easy120.

I second Fred's endorsement of the easy35 system. I'm currently traveling in Europe and it is a fabulous portable companion that allows me to scan my film on th go. Even if I was at home I would probably use it as the setup is so simple. I simply scan my entire roll through it and then cut and archive the negatives after the scan.

Supposedly, they are building the easy120 system to also be able to handle 35mm so it would handle both formats, but of course be larger than the easy35 system due to the size of the 120 negative and extension length needed to accommodate it.



Jul 12, 2024 at 06:15 PM
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p.1 #10 · Valoi Easy 35 but for 120 camera scanning setup


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Valoi is currently working on a 120 version of their easy35 system. .


This is what I was hoping to hear, thanks for this update.



Jul 12, 2024 at 07:13 PM
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p.1 #11 · Valoi Easy 35 but for 120 camera scanning setup




ZacP wrote:
Valoi is currently working on a 120 version of their easy35 system. It's currently in the prototype phase but if I recall correctly, I think they mentioned the first batch was projected to be ready in October. There is more information on it here - https://www.valoi.co/easy120.

I second Fred's endorsement of the easy35 system. I'm currently traveling in Europe and it is a fabulous portable companion that allows me to scan my film on th go. Even if I was at home I would probably use it as the setup is so simple. I simply scan my entire roll through it
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That is good news! I wonder if it would still make sense to get the 35 for size reasons.

One thing to consider, for me, is the back log of old film that I have that is already cut. Both 35mm and 120. The Negative Supply setup is not ideal for cut film and also needs to be set up properly when it comes to alignement of the equipment.



Jul 13, 2024 at 12:50 AM
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p.1 #12 · Valoi Easy 35 but for 120 camera scanning setup


I just watched Hashem’s video over at Pushing Film, where someone in the comments complained about internal reflections with the Black Box.

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Jul 18, 2024 at 12:42 AM





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