TheNewCamera is making quite a bold rumor. According to a "Chinese source" they are stating that the A7V will share the same partially-stacked sensor as the Nikon Z6 III. But in terms of resolution, that's taking a step back from 33mp to 24mp, and to me that makes no sense because Nikon really focused the Z6 III on video, so, I doubt Sony would want to walk over the A7S line. This is the quote from the "source"
"Not long ago, Nikon released their brand new Z6 third-generation camera, the Z6III, which features the first “partially stacked” sensor. The new sensor improves FAST continuous shooting for both stills and videos at higher frame rates.
Many people are curious about this sensor. However, there have been recent rumors suggesting that Sony’s new A7 series camera might, possibly, use the same sensor as the Nikon Z6III. There are speculations that the Z6III, being a comprehensive mid-range model, directly competes with Sony’s A7 series, which might potentially accelerate the release of Sony A7V to some extent."
A7S4 may use that 24mp sensor, but I highly doubt A7V will. As you said, it's highly unlikely the resolution will be walked back in a product line, even if Sony chooses to use a "partially stacked" sensor in A7V.
ArizonaImage wrote:
TheNewCamera is making quite a bold rumor. According to a "Chinese source" they are stating that the A7V will share the same partially-stacked sensor as the Nikon Z6 III. But in terms of resolution, that's taking a step back from 33mp to 24mp, and to me that makes no sense because Nikon really focused the Z6 III on video, so, I doubt Sony would want to walk over the A7S line. This is the quote from the "source"
"Not long ago, Nikon released their brand new Z6 third-generation camera, the Z6III, which features the first “partially stacked” sensor. The new sensor improves FAST continuous shooting for both stills and videos at higher frame rates.
Many people are curious about this sensor. However, there have been recent rumors suggesting that Sony’s new A7 series camera might, possibly, use the same sensor as the Nikon Z6III. There are speculations that the Z6III, being a comprehensive mid-range model, directly competes with Sony’s A7 series, which might potentially accelerate the release of Sony A7V to some extent."...Show more →
after watching the poor focus performance on matt granger utube of the z6iii i doubt they will use the same sensor.
Having Nikon release a camera with a new sensor before Sony goes against Sony’s tradition. I think we’ll see something different in the A7v. Maybe a more souped up version of the sensor.
chez wrote:
Having Nikon release a camera with a new sensor before Sony goes against Sony’s tradition. I think we’ll see something different in the A7v. Maybe a more souped up version of the sensor.
ArizonaImage wrote:
Hmm, I watched a few reviews including Grangers. He never complained about the AF on Z6 III.
so i fired my a7iv up with some portrait focusing and the z6iii doesnt compete ,its slow and no where near as smooth or sticky, the a7iv just doesnt let go and doesnt pulse.
chez wrote:
Having Nikon release a camera with a new sensor before Sony goes against Sony’s tradition. I think we’ll see something different in the A7v. Maybe a more souped up version of the sensor.
Nikon got the 24MP full frame in the D3x well before Sony released the a850 and a900. Nikon also got the 36MP sensor in the D800 well before the original a7r. In APSC world, Fuji had been using the 26MP BSI sensor for at least a year or more before Sony released the a6700. I don't think that "tradition" is as traditional as you're thinking.
A74me wrote:
so i fired my a7iv up with some portrait focusing and the z6iii doesnt compete ,its slow and no where near as smooth or sticky, the a7iv just doesnt let go and doesnt pulse.
You tested one before they were released? Nice. I think you are confusing it with the Z6 II, which makes sense. Otherwise, from the numerous reviews of the Z6 III, nothing that you said is something that they said. I think the only con I heard was the AF box was laggy but the camera was always in focus.
I can't see Sony going backwards on megapixel count. If this was a Sony-developed sensor then expect them to have a 33-megapixel version of it. If it was just developed special for Nikon, then maybe we'll see something totally different from Sony.
A74me wrote:
so i fired my a7iv up with some portrait focusing and the z6iii doesnt compete ,its slow and no where near as smooth or sticky, the a7iv just doesnt let go and doesnt pulse.
It's only Tuesday and you've secured "dumbest posts of the week". Impressive.
My guess is the 24mp sensor in the Z6III will find it's way into the a7sIV, with the a7IV now being 33mp, they can bump the a7sIV from 12mp to 24mp and keep the s line as their video and low light line. This could also give the a7sIV a bump from 4k to 6k. With many none video focused cameras now getting 8k, keeping keeping the a7s line at 4k probably hurts it's video centric reputation. I also haven't heard many photographs at this point picking up an a7s for it's low light photo advantage. Bumping it from 12mp to 24mp will make it much more reasonable for photograph in 2024. Most likely the a7rVI will get a resolution bump. So that would leave a gap to bump the resolution again on the a7.
So I could see Sony's line up looking something like within the next few years:
a7s 24mp
a7 45mp
a7r 80mp
I really can’t see Sony releasing a V with less resolution than the IV. Even if it was a tradeoff that made technical sense, the marketing people would revolt.
There is no reason to believe Sony will release their new mid range flagship with the same Nikon sensor as stated above. Sony doesn't follow. I would expect a 33 or greater sensor. Not sure if stacked or partially stacked will be part of it, but performance wise it will exceed the new Nikon. Just how things work.
Jun 26, 2024 at 10:04 AM
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Pete_R wrote:
I really can’t see Sony releasing a V with less resolution than the IV. Even if it was a tradeoff that made technical sense, the marketing people would revolt.
I agree. The A7 series will eventually get a partially stacked sensor either in the V or the VI, that is unless it goes with a totally stacked sensor, but it won't go with fewer MP. Faster sensor scan speeds provide some clear advantages for mirrorless cameras for both stills and video (with some tradeoffs), but that is another aspect of sensors that is going to move forward. Expect MP to increase but also sensor scan speed to increase and right now sensor scan speed is a weakness of the A7 IV limiting the use of silent shutter with moving targets and affecting video quality. So that will be addressed in time with the A7 series. Whether it makes it into the V, however, is hard to know.
It's unlikely to me that Sony would gift Nikon an equal-or-better sensor if they knew they couldn't use the same tech for a higher resolution sensor with no downsides. Matching the A7vi res but the Z6iii speed seems likely.
Jun 26, 2024 at 10:24 AM
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MARKFER wrote:
There is no reason to believe Sony will release their new mid range flagship with the same Nikon sensor as stated above. Sony doesn't follow. I would expect a 33 or greater sensor. Not sure if stacked or partially stacked will be part of it, but performance wise it will exceed the new Nikon. Just how things work.
Mid range flagship is kind of an oxymoron. It is a bit like saying luxury Chevrolet. For GM Cadillacs are the luxury models and Chevy's are the mid range model. Doesn't mean there aren't some nice Chevy's--Corvettes for example--but there really isn't a luxury Chevy. The A7 is Sony's mid range camera. The A1 is their flagship camera. Maybe you could say the A9 III is their flagship. If you want to know what the mid range will eventually look like at least in some ways you can look to the flagship cameras. No doubt the A7 V will exceed the Nikon Z6 III in some ways, but it probably won't in other ways. That is just how things work.
