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Canon RF 35 F/1.4L VCM

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p.2 #1 · p.2 #1 · Canon RF 35 F/1.4L VCM

I look forward to receiving mine to see the overall image quality videos can only show so much and at the same time not enough.

Jun 05, 2024 at 04:35 PM

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p.2 #2 · p.2 #2 · Canon RF 35 F/1.4L VCM

patotts wrote:
This looks like the lens everyone has been waiting on for over 4 years! I'm sure there will be backorders galore. Great that Canon is bringing this to market now!

My feeling is had Canon released a 35 L 3-4 years ago, it would not have been this. It would have been larger and more expensive.

I'm thankful this is 'only' f/1.4 and am really surprised to see there appears to have been an effort to keep it reasonably sized. I was not expecting 67mm filter size. But IMO the biggest surprise is $1499. Hopefully a sign of future 'right-sized, right-priced' lenses coming. I think in part we can thank the competition for this.

It will be interesting to see uncorrected distortion. Just wondering how much of a tradeoff there will be to keep the lens compact. But TBH, I don't really care if there is some (software-based distortion correction).

Also curious why there is zero coverage about the new Canon releases over at DPR...

Jun 05, 2024 at 04:58 PM

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p.2 #3 · p.2 #3 · Canon RF 35 F/1.4L VCM

I’ll just jump right into the first dissenting opinion. Lol

Was really hoping for a 35/1.2 that would pull me deeper into the RF system, and convince me to dump some of my Sony stuff (Sigma 35/1.2). I am much less concerned about it being a little bigger and heavier. Just wanted it to be something that gave just that little extra something. Who knows though, it may still have enough character/look to pique my interest, based on initial feedback citing the presence of swirling and cat’s eye.

Jun 05, 2024 at 05:17 PM

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p.2 #4 · p.2 #4 · Canon RF 35 F/1.4L VCM

JohnDizzo15 wrote:
I’ll just jump right into the first dissenting opinion. Lol

Was really hoping for a 35/1.2 that would pull me deeper into the RF system, and convince me to dump some of my Sony stuff (Sigma 35/1.2). I am much less concerned about it being a little bigger and heavier.

Same. I wanted an f/1.2, preferably DS, to complement my 85/1.2 and 85/1.2 DS. I couldn't care less about the size. I want an optical "edge".
This f/1.4 looks very similar (filter size, weight, aperture ring) to the Sony 35/1.4GM which I already have... I hope Canon won't abandon their high-end lens line and the "rumored" 35/1.2 is coming sooner or later.

Jun 05, 2024 at 05:46 PM

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p.2 #5 · p.2 #5 · Canon RF 35 F/1.4L VCM

docusync wrote:
Same. I wanted an f/1.2, preferably DS, to complement my 85/1.2 and 85/1.2 DS. I couldn't care less about the size. I want an optical "edge".
This f/1.4 looks very similar (filter size, weight, aperture ring) to the Sony 35/1.4GM which I already have... I hope Canon won't abandon their high-end lens line and the "rumored" 35/1.2 is coming sooner or later.

Same… I’m in the minority, but I was looking for more of a flagship lens than a hybrid lightweight one. Maybe it will surprise me, and while I shouldn’t judge it on looks, it certainly doesn’t look like a serious lens, which is what I was hoping for. I’d love to be wrong, though!

Jun 05, 2024 at 06:00 PM

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p.2 #6 · p.2 #6 · Canon RF 35 F/1.4L VCM

Maybe they'll do a 28/1.2.

But probably not something I would buy, nor am I that interested in this 35/1.4. I'm kind of over ultra-fast prime lenses unless for a specific niche that I can regularly exploit. I'm happy with the 28-70/2 for event work, for which I don't want to go back to multiple fast primes. The 28-70 also has surprisingly low optical vignetting-induced bokeh swirl, which was another point in its favor. This is an aspect where I feel Sony has paid additional attention to the optical design of some of their more recent primes.

Jun 05, 2024 at 06:00 PM

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p.2 #7 · p.2 #7 · Canon RF 35 F/1.4L VCM

I'm very pleasantly surprised by this lens- the size and the price are both quite reasonable!

Looks like a winner.

Jun 05, 2024 at 06:20 PM

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p.2 #8 · p.2 #8 · Canon RF 35 F/1.4L VCM

Looks really nice! I was personally hoping for a more compact 35mm L so I'm happy to see this is what we get, but I also fully understand the desire for a 1.2 version as well. I'm going to wait a bit for more reviews to come out but I definitely plan on picking this up.

Jun 05, 2024 at 08:12 PM

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p.2 #9 · p.2 #9 · Canon RF 35 F/1.4L VCM

I had the same thought. Sony has had this stuff for a while now.

middlerockies wrote:
I’m wondering why they’re calling it a hybrid lens when other companies are already making similar lenses with aperture rings, minimal focus breathing, and quiet focusing for video. Seems like a marketing trick, or am I missing something? Aren’t they just finally paying attention to some of the details or improving on their lenses?

Jun 05, 2024 at 10:33 PM

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p.2 #10 · p.2 #10 · Canon RF 35 F/1.4L VCM

RoamingScott wrote:
There is a ton of "swirly bokeh" with subjects well away from MFD which you don't see a whole lot in modern, highly corrected lenses. There is also cat's eye bokeh very near the middle of the frame.

It's actually refreshing to see a lens with some character vs all of the modern stale options out there. I'm not sure that optically this lens is up to the legendary EF 35/1.4 L II, but to be fair, that was one of the finest 35mm lenses made IMO.

Not sure what you meant by swirly bokeh but I was looking at all the bokeh samples and I thought they looked very smooth even in the transitions. I currently has a 35mm Gm and 35mm f1.2 sigma and I am looking for a 35 mm that weighs like the Gm but with the sigma kind of transition bokeh. Hopefully this is it.

Adding an aperture ring and not letting photographers use it is just stupidity… I have the rf 135mm and I wish it has an aperture ring as I am used to it with my Sonys. Adding the video aperture ring just make it worse… seeing it but cannot use it…. Crazy….

Jun 05, 2024 at 11:13 PM

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wind30 wrote:
Adding an aperture ring and not letting photographers use it is just stupidity… I have the rf 135mm and I wish it has an aperture ring as I am used to it with my Sonys. Adding the video aperture ring just make it worse… seeing it but cannot use it…. Crazy….

Nothing is keeping a stills shooter from using the aperture ring, from what I am gathering... it's a stepless ring which is less ideal for a stills shooter, but it still works....

Jun 05, 2024 at 11:47 PM

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p.2 #12 · p.2 #12 · Canon RF 35 F/1.4L VCM

ISO1600 wrote:
Nothing is keeping a stills shooter from using the aperture ring, from what I am gathering... it's a stepless ring which is less ideal for a stills shooter, but it still works....

Nope. Scroll to 3:30 - it's only for video:
https://bit.ly/3RDjICz

Jun 05, 2024 at 11:55 PM

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p.2 #13 · p.2 #13 · Canon RF 35 F/1.4L VCM

Looks like a nice lens to replace my 35mmLii, if the review from the-digital-picture with favourable night shot with no winged-stars and reasonable vignetting at wide open, I will pull the trigger!

Jun 06, 2024 at 12:10 AM

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p.2 #14 · p.2 #14 · Canon RF 35 F/1.4L VCM

middlerockies wrote:
Wait, so it’s got a manual aperture ring but it’s only for video? Makes sense why they keep referring to it as an iris ring now. This is the kind of head scratching choice that only Canon can come up with, truly. Reminds me of the 100-500 not being able to full retract with a TC. Just odd design choices. Why would you not just do the thing that’s already working well for people, which is the way Sony implements it with the click and de-click?

With the 100-500 not be able to retract with extender there is (presumably) a physical reason: Maybe it allowed them to make the 100-500 more compact.

The fact that the iris ring on the new Canon lenses can't be used for stills is just plain stupid since both Sony and Sigma lenses allow it.
I have been shooting Canon since 1998 and probably keep using it till I die, but objectively the Sony lens selection seems better for me (particularly since they also allow 3rd party). It seems that all the top brands (Canon, Sony, Nikon, Tamron, Sigma) can now make stellar lenses (that was not the case in early 2000s).

At least optically the lens looks great (based on Gordon's video).

Jun 06, 2024 at 01:06 AM

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p.2 #15 · p.2 #15 · Canon RF 35 F/1.4L VCM

Jun 06, 2024 at 01:47 AM

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p.2 #16 · p.2 #16 · Canon RF 35 F/1.4L VCM

https://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-RF-35mm-F1-4-L-VCM-Lens.aspx

MTF looks great. Possibly some CA, meant to be corrected in camera or post.

Jun 06, 2024 at 02:11 AM

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p.2 #17 · p.2 #17 · Canon RF 35 F/1.4L VCM

Honest question: Who uses a 'by wire' aperture ring on a fully electronic lens, for stills?
And a follow up, why could you not use the multi-function ring for that?

Jun 06, 2024 at 02:30 AM

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p.2 #18 · p.2 #18 · Canon RF 35 F/1.4L VCM

alundeb wrote:
Honest question: Who uses a 'by wire' aperture ring on a fully electronic lens, for stills?
And a follow up, why could you not use the multi-function ring for that?

Exactly. If you have to have an aperture ring for video, what Canon have done is a much cleaner design than adding a clicky mode and a slider to switch between that and clickless, like Sony.

For those who don’t know: the purpose of stepless aperture rings on video lenses was traditonally so that you could alter exposure in a single take. You can’t use shutter speed to do that because many people think motion looks odd if it isn’t at “180°” (half the duration of each frame, or 1/48s for 24p). And, back in the day, every frame had to be shot at the same ISO because it was on film.

These days you could (in theory) alter ISO steplessly but it seems old habits die hard in the cinema world.

I have to say, when I saw the aperture ring at the start of Gordon Laing’s video I thought this would mean a hard “don’t buy” for me. I shoot stills, and I don’t like aperture rings and hard 1950s-style dials with numbers on them in general. I was relieved to hear from him later that the ring was inoperative in stills mode, so I don’t need to worry where it’s set or set it to A if I’m using other than Av mode.

Jun 06, 2024 at 03:02 AM

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p.2 #19 · p.2 #19 · Canon RF 35 F/1.4L VCM

alundeb wrote:
Honest question: Who uses a 'by wire' aperture ring on a fully electronic lens, for stills?
And a follow up, why could you not use the multi-function ring for that?

The dedicated aperture ring gives you visual and tactile confirmation. You turn it all the way to 1.4 and it stops, the control ring just keeps spinning. The visual confirmation is particularly useful with cameras lacking the top LCD display.

I got used to controlling aperture in camera in last 25 years so not a big deal for me.

But objectively, there is no reason to implement sony/sigma style where you can have both (clicked and clickless).

Jun 06, 2024 at 03:20 AM

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p.2 #20 · p.2 #20 · Canon RF 35 F/1.4L VCM

matejphoto wrote:
The dedicated aperture ring gives you visual and tactile confirmation.

It doesn’t give you visual confirmation. If the camera is in Tv (shutter priority), it reads whatever it reads, which is unlikely to be the aperture the camera calculated.

Most video shooting is either in fully manual exposure mode, or with only ISO set automatically. Therefore, an aperture ring with hard markings will be correct. The corner case of other exposure modes in video would require a servo motor in the lens to set the aperture ring to the calculated value and IMO Canon were right to ignore that.

Jun 06, 2024 at 03:48 AM

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