Peire wrote:
Yes.There is enough space for my middle sized hands.
Thanks for confirming.
You have some nice pictures with this Nokton, but I must say I am not a big fan of the bokeh on those pictures with fruits. The out-of-focus rendering, on those, is too "heavy" for me. But the lens seems sharp, even in the corners, at f/1, which is really impressive.
catacore wrote:
Thanks for confirming.
You have some nice pictures with this Nokton, but I must say I am not a big fan of the bokeh on those pictures with fruits. The out-of-focus rendering, on those, is too "heavy" for me. But the lens seems sharp, even in the corners, at f/1, which is really impressive.
The bokeh is in fact not "heavy" sui generis.It is PP that made it like this.
It's a fine lens, but perhaps touchy. I am thinking it does best with less detailed scenes, examples being interiors and cafes, streetlife, the use of dramatic light. Bokeh seems to have the potential to be tetchy in well lit, close focused front/back compositions, but of course it's very much a matter of personal taste.
The detail rendered inside the deep bokeh may be off-putting to some, like picking up another person's spectacles by mistake. It may be a little fussy regarding focus distances. The examples on the lens page for this lens seems to show this opinion, they show more uniform backgrounds:
philip_pj wrote:
It's a fine lens, but perhaps touchy. I am thinking it does best with less detailed scenes, examples being interiors and cafes, streetlife, the use of dramatic light. Bokeh seems to have the potential to be tetchy in well lit, close focused front/back compositions, but of course it's very much a matter of personal taste.
The detail rendered inside the deep bokeh may be off-putting to some, like picking up another person's spectacles by mistake. It may be a little fussy regarding focus distances. The examples on the lens page for this lens seems to show this opinion, they show more uniform backgrounds:
To me, the main drawback of the CV 50/1 Nokton isn't its rendering, which may not be technically perfect but adds a touch of character that I personally enjoy. The real issue is the significant amount of outward field curvature. This is especially noticeable since the center rendering is smooth, while off-axis elements appear sharper and more structured towards the edges. This effect becomes more pronounced when shooting subjects at mid-distance, around 2-2.5 meters. Most 50mm lenses exhibit some field curvature, so it's a common challenge with such fast lenses.
philip_pj wrote:
It's a fine lens, but perhaps touchy. I am thinking it does best with less detailed scenes, examples being interiors and cafes, streetlife, the use of dramatic light. Bokeh seems to have the potential to be tetchy in well lit, close focused front/back compositions, but of course it's very much a matter of personal taste.
The detail rendered inside the deep bokeh may be off-putting to some, like picking up another person's spectacles by mistake. It may be a little fussy regarding focus distances. The examples on the lens page for this lens seems to show this opinion, they show more uniform backgrounds:
It's certainly the best-corrected ultra-fast 50mm lens I've tried, but I personally didn't fall in love with this type of lens. The smooth rendering transition combined with the extreme outward field curvature isn't a strong point for me, as it creates a noticeable discrepancy between the smooth center and the sharper edges. In contrast, with more vintage lenses, while similar field curvature exists, their more structured rendering tends to mask this effect.
They certainly exist in a special class, these f1 lenses. They really are good to have and Cosina did a fine job of this one which compares favorably to its past and present competitors.
But they seem very demanding of the photographer, to seek out and exploit their edge of spectrum performance. You would have to be hyper aware of how each motif is likely to be portrayed, and the percentage of wide open images would surely be an industry high.
philip_pj wrote:
They certainly exist in a special class, these f1 lenses. They really are good to have and Cosina did a fine job of this one which compares favorably to its past and present competitors.
But they seem very demanding of the photographer, to seek out and exploit their edge of spectrum performance. You would have to be hyper aware of how each motif is likely to be portrayed, and the percentage of wide open images would surely be an industry high.
Yes.It is a very demanding lens to utilize it's merits best.Thus I sometimes prefer 50/1.2 Voigtlander Nokton,which is more "regular" fast prime.
Just picked up this lens. Definitely different than anything I've shot with before. On my A7RV, out in cloudy conditions, I need to be at the max shutter speed and sometimes I lowered the ISO to 50. I have a 3-stop ND filter on order that will fit the lens.
Need to practice more with this, as it has lots of color fringing, but mostly only noticeable when pixel peeping. Still, I need to be more mindful of high contrast shooting wide open. It's also not the sharpest boy shooting wide open. I've been spoiled with GM lenses, but I think this is just part of the character. It seems to sharpen up quite a bit stopped down, but I basically have no intention of shooting stopped down (I have the 50 APO for that).
Gotta say, it does look great on my camera, though!
ILCE-7RM5Voigtlander NOKTON 50mm F1 Aspherical lens50mmf/1.01/8000s50 ISO0.0 EV
ILCE-7RM5Voigtlander NOKTON 50mm F1 Aspherical lens50mmf/1.01/8000s100 ISO0.0 EV
ILCE-7RM5Voigtlander NOKTON 50mm F1 Aspherical lens50mmf/1.01/6400s100 ISO0.0 EV
ILCE-9M3FE 50-150mm F2 GM lens150mmf/8.01/500s250 ISO0.0 EV
Last Friday I had the opportunity to use this lens during a guided photo walk by Kamera Express in cooperation with Voigtlander as part of the Kamera Express Photo Festival in Hamburg, Germany. Here is a shot I took with maximum aperture almost next to the store. A really great lens. However, it is not an option to purchase for me, as I cannot keep two manual lenses of the same focal length and I already have the APO-Lanthar, which is more useful for my purposes.
Fred Miranda wrote:
To me, the main drawback of the CV 50/1 Nokton isn't its rendering, which may not be technically perfect but adds a touch of character that I personally enjoy. The real issue is the significant amount of outward field curvature. This is especially noticeable since the center rendering is smooth, while off-axis elements appear sharper and more structured towards the edges. This effect becomes more pronounced when shooting subjects at mid-distance, around 2-2.5 meters. Most 50mm lenses exhibit some field curvature, so it's a common challenge with such fast lenses.
I have pondered over this. Looking at many images I believe an additional issue is at play: strong vignetting.
Due to this, an image shot at f1.0 will display the characteristics of f1.0 in the center only and something like f2 or even f2.8 in the corners. This will yield a sharper and more contrasty image at the edge, even if there is no field curvature at all.
