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p.1 #1 · Anyone using the Nikon 28mm 1.4E on film


I'd like to see some examples of the Nikon 28mm 1.4E used on a film camera. Does anyone have any examples they can throw up for me to look at? Especially at 1.4. I'm toying with the idea of buying one to use on both film and digital.


Apr 06, 2024 at 06:44 PM
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p.1 #2 · Anyone using the Nikon 28mm 1.4E on film


You probably already knew that the Nikon 28/1.4E can only be use at f/1.4 on the Nikon film bodies including F100 and F5/6. With the latest E version of these lenses, aperture can not be changed.

I have this lens but only used on digital bodies. On digital, for my own user experience, this is one of the best 28mm lenses.

The older Nikon 28/1.4 AF-D is also a very nice consideration for film and digital. But I am sorry that I don't have any film images to show here.



Apr 06, 2024 at 06:58 PM
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p.1 #3 · Anyone using the Nikon 28mm 1.4E on film


Yeah it's a bummer - there are no film cameras that can correctly operate e-aperture lenses.
The only Sigma Arts that work are the 35 and 50. And zero Nikon /Es.

The upcoming F7 will have e-aperture compatibility, as well as the AF system and batteries from the D780 and of course a modernized menu system. Nikon will also bring back a few knobs a la ZF - so physically it will have a touch of F4 to it.



Apr 06, 2024 at 07:36 PM
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p.1 #4 · Anyone using the Nikon 28mm 1.4E on film


Good to know. Bummed but happy I didn’t take the plunge.


Apr 06, 2024 at 07:56 PM
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p.1 #5 · Anyone using the Nikon 28mm 1.4E on film


upcoming F7?


Apr 07, 2024 at 06:29 AM
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p.1 #6 · Anyone using the Nikon 28mm 1.4E on film


coralnut wrote:
upcoming F7?


Hey I manifested the Film is Not Dead thread by continually asking for it, so I am now turning that manifestation onto the F7!



Apr 07, 2024 at 10:39 AM
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p.1 #7 · Anyone using the Nikon 28mm 1.4E on film


Ha you got me on the F7 too. Keep visualizing!


Apr 07, 2024 at 12:15 PM
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ocean2059 wrote:
The older Nikon 28/1.4 AF-D is also a very nice consideration for film and digital. But I am sorry that I don't have any film images to show here.


I have the 28/1.4 AF-D and it's a nice lens although the manual focus experience is predictably not that great. I'm interested in getting a Nikon film camera that I can use with it, one that can drive the autofocus, but whenever I try to figure out which cameras are compatible I get lost. The other Nikon-mount cameras I have are all manual-focus (Nikon 85/1.4 Ai-S and Zeiss 35/1.4 ZF.2) and I'd like to be able to use those too. I had a few recommendations in the "Which Nikon Film Camera" thread but that was before I got this lens and was interested in trying it in autofocus mode. Any suggestions?



Apr 07, 2024 at 01:30 PM
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bjhurley wrote:
I have the 28/1.4 AF-D and it's a nice lens although the manual focus experience is predictably not that great. I'm interested in getting a Nikon film camera that I can use with it, one that can drive the autofocus, but whenever I try to figure out which cameras are compatible I get lost. The other Nikon-mount cameras I have are all manual-focus (Nikon 85/1.4 Ai-S and Zeiss 35/1.4 ZF.2) and I'd like to be able to use those too. I had a few recommendations in the "Which Nikon Film Camera" thread but that was before I got this lens
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The Nikon N80/F80. I like them so much I have two - and use them more than my F6!
Will work perfectly with that lens. There was one on the B&S recently but now snagged.

The thing to watch out for is the sticky rubber - easily cleaned with isopropyl alcohol and 10 mins of elbow grease. And the plastic latch on the back door being broken. Nikon in its wisdom replaced metal w plastic for this piece in all the non single digit F cameras of this era (F100, F80, F75 etc).
The trick to keep it from breaking is to not snap the back shut, but hold up the release catch as you close the film back, then release it. Pretty incredible that Nikon would replace metal with plastic - I guess saving that nickel per camera really paid off...
(even the freakin Nikon EM has a metal latch!)

But I digress - Nikon N80/F80 would be great w it. It also has one killer feature - LCD grid lines on the focus screen that can be turned on or off! My F6 can't do that.



Apr 07, 2024 at 01:45 PM
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bjhurley wrote:
I have the 28/1.4 AF-D and it's a nice lens although the manual focus experience is predictably not that great. I'm interested in getting a Nikon film camera that I can use with it, one that can drive the autofocus, but whenever I try to figure out which cameras are compatible I get lost. The other Nikon-mount cameras I have are all manual-focus (Nikon 85/1.4 Ai-S and Zeiss 35/1.4 ZF.2) and I'd like to be able to use those too. I had a few recommendations in the "Which Nikon Film Camera" thread but that was before I got this lens
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I had a Df and a D2x both which were capable of metering with the Ai-S lenses. Now that there is a metal latch kit to replace the plastic door latch on the F100, that would offer the flexibility you're looking for.



Apr 07, 2024 at 01:48 PM
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madNbad wrote:
I had a Df and a D2x both which were capable of metering with the Ai-S lenses. Now that there is a metal latch kit to replace the plastic door latch on the F100, that would offer the flexibility you're looking for.


I think the same person makes one for the F80 as well?



Apr 07, 2024 at 01:54 PM
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Desmolicious wrote:
The Nikon N80/F80. I like them so much I have two - and use them more than my F6!
Will work perfectly with that lens. .


Thanks! I'm definitely aware of that camera but wasn't sure if it would also work with my older Ai-S lens and my 35/1.4 ZF.2 (which was designed for digital but can be used on film cameras of course)? And I forgot that I also have the old Tokina 28-70 ATX-Pro 2.6-2.8 (Angénieux design) in Nikon mount, which does have autofocus although I've never used it in that mode, only manual.

I think it was the metering that was the issue with the N80 and those older lenses, but I can always meter manually.



Apr 07, 2024 at 01:55 PM
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p.1 #13 · Anyone using the Nikon 28mm 1.4E on film


Desmolicious wrote:
I think the same person makes one for the F80 as well?


I'm pretty sure he does. I just wasn't sure if the Ai follower would work with the N80.

Here, I found this:
https://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/companies/nikon/htmls/models/specroomy2k/f80/index1.htm

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Apr 07, 2024 at 01:58 PM
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madNbad wrote:
Now that there is a metal latch kit to replace the plastic door latch on the F100, that would offer the flexibility you're looking for.


The F100 does seem like it could provide in-camera metering for all my lenses, so I'll take a closer look at that; they're not too expensive. Thanks!



Apr 07, 2024 at 02:07 PM
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bjhurley wrote:
I have the 28/1.4 AF-D and it's a nice lens although the manual focus experience is predictably not that great. I'm interested in getting a Nikon film camera that I can use with it, one that can drive the autofocus, but whenever I try to figure out which cameras are compatible I get lost. The other Nikon-mount cameras I have are all manual-focus (Nikon 85/1.4 Ai-S and Zeiss 35/1.4 ZF.2) and I'd like to be able to use those too. I had a few recommendations in the "Which Nikon Film Camera" thread but that was before I got this lens
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I am currently using a Nikon F100 as autofocus SLR along with two F3s for manual focus lenses. I also used a F6 years ago and I wish it didn't trade it. Your Nikon 28/1.4 AF-D should work well with F100 and I don't find focus accuracy is a concern on F100 when shooting wide open. I usually use this lens with F/1.8 or F/2 for a bit better image quality and rendering characters, particularly for its color renderings. Your Nikon 85/1.4 Ai-S and Zeiss 35/1.4 ZF.2 will work with F100, too. I find the "green arrow/dot" focus indicator in F100 is sufficiently accurate, at least for more stationary objects. One thing to keep in mind is that when using your Nikon Ai-S lens, only the center-weigh metering works on F100. Your Zeiss 35/1.4 ZF.2 is chipped and the "Matrix" metering will work on F100.

I really enjoy your concerts/dancing images - they are excellent!



Apr 07, 2024 at 02:20 PM
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ocean2059 wrote:
I am currently using a Nikon F100 as autofocus SLR along with two F3s for manual focus lenses. I also used a F6 years ago and I wish it didn't trade it. Your Nikon 28/1.4 AF-D should work well with F100 and I don't find focus accuracy is a concern on F100 when shooting wide open. I usually use this lens with F/1.8 or F/2 for a bit better image quality and rendering characters, particularly for its color renderings. Your Nikon 85/1.4 Ai-S and Zeiss 35/1.4 ZF.2 will work with F100, too. I find the "green arrow/dot" focus indicator in
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Thanks! This sounds promising for the F100. And thanks for the comments on my concert/dance photos, I love doing those although the venues are usually too dark for film (I'm often well above ISO 12,800 although occasionally as low as 1600 or 3200). But I've been asked to shoot photos at a dance event this summer that will have dances during the day (natural light through the windows) as well as night dances and I'd like to try shooting film for the daytime dances and workshops; autofocus would be handy especially for film since I have a pretty low success rate when I'm taking photos of dancers with manual-focus lenses.



Apr 07, 2024 at 02:56 PM
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madNbad wrote:
I'm pretty sure he does. I just wasn't sure if the Ai follower would work with the N80.

Here, I found this:
https://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/companies/nikon/htmls/models/specroomy2k/f80/index1.htm


The N80 does not have the aperture indexing tab like the F100 has, so it won't work correctly with non chipped lenses.




Apr 07, 2024 at 09:01 PM
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Desmolicious wrote:
Hey I manifested the Film is Not Dead thread by continually asking for it, so I am now turning that manifestation onto the F7!


OK, I'll do my best to manifest up some Kodachrome to go with it.



Apr 07, 2024 at 09:14 PM
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bjhurley wrote:
I have the 28/1.4 AF-D and it's a nice lens although the manual focus experience is predictably not that great. I'm interested in getting a Nikon film camera that I can use with it, one that can drive the autofocus, but whenever I try to figure out which cameras are compatible I get lost. The other Nikon-mount cameras I have are all manual-focus (Nikon 85/1.4 Ai-S and Zeiss 35/1.4 ZF.2) and I'd like to be able to use those too. I had a few recommendations in the "Which Nikon Film Camera" thread but that was before I got this lens
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People love to bash this guy, but his web page is very handy for people with questions like yours:

https://kenrockwell.com/nikon/compatibility-lens.htm

I'll make the same recommendation as in your other thread: F100, N90S, F80.

VR works on the 80 but not on the 90s, but 90s gives you CW/Spot metering that you don't get with the 80. 100 gives you both CW/Spot metering and VR. None of the older screw drive AF mid-price cameras are worth having.

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Apr 07, 2024 at 09:17 PM
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p.1 #20 · Anyone using the Nikon 28mm 1.4E on film


coralnut wrote:
People love to bash this guy, but his web page is very handy for people with questions like yours:

https://kenrockwell.com/nikon/compatibility-lens.htm


Ken is Ken. He is quite clear about how he views and approaches his site. To quote him directly,

"I have the energy and sense of humor of a three-year old, so remember, this is a personal website, and never presented as fact. I enjoy making things up for fun, as does The Onion, and I publish them here.

I too find a lot of useful info on his site. But remember, he refers to his site as "a work of fiction."

I just try and keep that in mind when I read his stuff.



Apr 07, 2024 at 09:28 PM
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