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p.20 #1X100VI first impressions + running commentary
Yes, already have Airplane mode on. I didn't think to look at IBIS settings. I will do that for sure.
Apr 18, 2024 at 12:16 AM
p.20 #2X100VI first impressions + running commentary
has anyone else seen similar VI behavior?
pick any ISO
set aperture to 11 or 16
set shutter speed dial to A
set AF to C
half press the shutter.
does the screen go dark?
set AF to S.
does the screen go dark?
pick any ISO
set aperture to 11 or 16
set shutter speed dial to A
set AF to C
half press the shutter.
does the screen go dark?
set AF to S.
does the screen go dark?
Apr 19, 2024 at 11:51 AM
p.20 #3X100VI first impressions + running commentary
d-intrigue wrote:
has anyone else seen similar VI behavior?
pick any ISO
set aperture to 11 or 16
set shutter speed dial to A
set AF to C
half press the shutter.
does the screen go dark?
set AF to S.
does the screen go dark?
The screen will show the preview of the final image. Depending on your settings, an f/11 or f/16 pic could be very dark especially if you accidentally have the ND enabled!
A video would be useful to see what exactly you're getting.
has anyone else seen similar VI behavior?
pick any ISO
set aperture to 11 or 16
set shutter speed dial to A
set AF to C
half press the shutter.
does the screen go dark?
set AF to S.
does the screen go dark?
The screen will show the preview of the final image. Depending on your settings, an f/11 or f/16 pic could be very dark especially if you accidentally have the ND enabled!
A video would be useful to see what exactly you're getting.
Apr 19, 2024 at 11:55 AM
p.20 #4X100VI first impressions + running commentary
The image exposes correctly, but the screen gets dark on half-press when the focus switch is set to C and doesn't when it is set to S.
Is anyone able to duplicate this? I could post a video but it's a simple test, just test with AF-S and then with AF-C.
The behavior is the same with ND on or off...except the screen is even darker with ND on, of course.
Is anyone able to duplicate this? I could post a video but it's a simple test, just test with AF-S and then with AF-C.
The behavior is the same with ND on or off...except the screen is even darker with ND on, of course.
Apr 19, 2024 at 12:00 PM
p.20 #5X100VI first impressions + running commentary
d-intrigue wrote:
The image exposes correctly, but the screen gets dark on half-press when the focus switch is set to C and doesn't when it is set to S.
Is anyone able to duplicate this? I could post a video but it's a simple test, just test with AF-S and then with AF-C.
The behavior is the same with ND on or off...except the screen is even darker with ND on, of course.
Ah, I see what you're saying now. Yes, I get that behavior. I would have never noticed it because I rarely 1) use anything past f/5.6 and 2) use AF-C.
The image exposes correctly, but the screen gets dark on half-press when the focus switch is set to C and doesn't when it is set to S.
Is anyone able to duplicate this? I could post a video but it's a simple test, just test with AF-S and then with AF-C.
The behavior is the same with ND on or off...except the screen is even darker with ND on, of course.
Ah, I see what you're saying now. Yes, I get that behavior. I would have never noticed it because I rarely 1) use anything past f/5.6 and 2) use AF-C.
Apr 19, 2024 at 12:07 PM
p.20 #6X100VI first impressions + running commentary
Further testing indicates it happens at all apertures, it's just more difficult to confirm the effect.
This shouldn't be happening, appears to be a firmware bug.
This shouldn't be happening, appears to be a firmware bug.
Apr 19, 2024 at 01:09 PM
p.20 #7X100VI first impressions + running commentary
Have you tested this on earlier models?
d-intrigue wrote:
Further testing indicates it happens at all apertures, it's just more difficult to confirm the effect.
This shouldn't be happening, appears to be a firmware bug.
d-intrigue wrote:
Further testing indicates it happens at all apertures, it's just more difficult to confirm the effect.
This shouldn't be happening, appears to be a firmware bug.
Apr 19, 2024 at 01:19 PM
p.20 #8X100VI first impressions + running commentary
I used to have other X100 models and other Fujis, but do not have anything except the VI now.
Apr 19, 2024 at 01:38 PM
p.20 #9X100VI first impressions + running commentary
While my local store is running interference with Fujifilm to get me a new camera, I decided to take mine out and see how it fared in real-world shooting. In daylight shooting, at f/5.6-f/8, for the most part it does just fine. Every once in a while you can see a touch of softness in spots due to the tilt, but it's usually obscured by the added depth of field if you focus towards the center of the frame. Isolated subjects are likewise fine. Seems like in daylight, it'd likely be just fine how it is. It's when you need the wide aperture, say when shooting at night or indoors in a dim location, where the tilted focus plane is a problem.
So, I got some nice shots that I'll post later this evening in the X100 thread.
I did notice that I had a couple shots where it just missed focus entirely, which I found a little odd. It wasn't common, but about 3 or 4 shots out of around 50 taken.
So, I got some nice shots that I'll post later this evening in the X100 thread.
I did notice that I had a couple shots where it just missed focus entirely, which I found a little odd. It wasn't common, but about 3 or 4 shots out of around 50 taken.
Apr 20, 2024 at 04:36 PM
p.20 #10X100VI first impressions + running commentary
Starting to think I'm not going to get the X100VI before my trip to Europe at the end May. Probably just end up taking my Sony A6700 and Sigma 18-50
Apr 21, 2024 at 12:15 PM
p.20 #11X100VI first impressions + running commentary
d-intrigue wrote:
I used to have other X100 models and other Fujis, but do not have anything except the VI now.
Chatter on this online all the way back to the X-T2, so working "as intended" I guess.
It's obvious how AF-S and AF-C focus acquisition works if you watch the lens.
AF-S will open the aperture up to f/2 for acquisition and then close down for exposure.
AF-C will immediately stop the lens down to whatever your aperture value is, which is why the screen immediately darkens.
There seems to be some firmware funkiness where AF-C doesn't show you the true exposure preview after focus acquisition like AF-S does past a certain aperture value (anything past f/9 in my testing).
I used to have other X100 models and other Fujis, but do not have anything except the VI now.
Chatter on this online all the way back to the X-T2, so working "as intended" I guess.
It's obvious how AF-S and AF-C focus acquisition works if you watch the lens.
AF-S will open the aperture up to f/2 for acquisition and then close down for exposure.
AF-C will immediately stop the lens down to whatever your aperture value is, which is why the screen immediately darkens.
There seems to be some firmware funkiness where AF-C doesn't show you the true exposure preview after focus acquisition like AF-S does past a certain aperture value (anything past f/9 in my testing).
Apr 21, 2024 at 12:56 PM
p.20 #12X100VI first impressions + running commentary
So I got the new Smallrig grip for my X100VI, and I have a couple thoughts.
1) It looks really good. It fits the design very well, with the silver of the grip matching the silver of the camera perfectly, and the black grip fitting in very nicely.
2) Smallrig is using the same overly grippy silicone rubber for this grip as they do on their Nikon Zf grip, and I'm not a huge fan of this rubber. It's just a bit too sticky, and I wish it was more along the lines of the grips that Fujifilm has used on their first party accessory grips for the the X-T and X-E series cameras.
3) The arca-swiss dovetail is well made, and the cutout for the battery and SD card is done in a way that I don't have any issues removing either with the grip installed.
3) Unfortunately, I'm not a huge fan of the overall shape of the grip portion. They brought it all the way over to where the flare on the camera body is, which makes it look nice, but when combined with the rather significant depth and height causes your fingers to be pushed a little too tightly to the lens. Also, the way your fingers need to wrap around this shape puts your hand in a different hold than the camera was really designed for. As a result, my fingers feel cramped against the lens (and I scrape it with my fingernails when picking up the camera), and the different hand position pushes the strap lugs into my fingers and makes accessing a few of the controls a little more difficult than without the grip. It's not blatantly uncomfortable or anything, but it makes picking up the camera slightly more awkward, and the resulting final position is mediocre.
I'll probably keep it just as an option, and for the A/S plate, but I don't know if it'll stay on my camera all that much.
1) It looks really good. It fits the design very well, with the silver of the grip matching the silver of the camera perfectly, and the black grip fitting in very nicely.
2) Smallrig is using the same overly grippy silicone rubber for this grip as they do on their Nikon Zf grip, and I'm not a huge fan of this rubber. It's just a bit too sticky, and I wish it was more along the lines of the grips that Fujifilm has used on their first party accessory grips for the the X-T and X-E series cameras.
3) The arca-swiss dovetail is well made, and the cutout for the battery and SD card is done in a way that I don't have any issues removing either with the grip installed.
3) Unfortunately, I'm not a huge fan of the overall shape of the grip portion. They brought it all the way over to where the flare on the camera body is, which makes it look nice, but when combined with the rather significant depth and height causes your fingers to be pushed a little too tightly to the lens. Also, the way your fingers need to wrap around this shape puts your hand in a different hold than the camera was really designed for. As a result, my fingers feel cramped against the lens (and I scrape it with my fingernails when picking up the camera), and the different hand position pushes the strap lugs into my fingers and makes accessing a few of the controls a little more difficult than without the grip. It's not blatantly uncomfortable or anything, but it makes picking up the camera slightly more awkward, and the resulting final position is mediocre.
I'll probably keep it just as an option, and for the A/S plate, but I don't know if it'll stay on my camera all that much.
Apr 22, 2024 at 05:52 AM
p.20 #13X100VI first impressions + running commentary
Jman13 wrote:
So I got the new Smallrig grip for my X100VI, and I have a couple thoughts.
1) It looks really good. It fits the design very well, with the silver of the grip matching the silver of the camera perfectly, and the black grip fitting in very nicely.
2) Smallrig is using the same overly grippy silicone rubber for this grip as they do on their Nikon Zf grip, and I'm not a huge fan of this rubber. It's just a bit too sticky, and I wish it was more along the lines of the grips that Fujifilm has used on...Show more →
I have one for my X100V, as well. I never use it unless I want to do things on a tripod. My hands are probably smaller than yours, as I don't notice the crampiness of it. But again, I have it for specific purposes!
Meanwhile, I hope you're able to get a new camera. I would be very annoyed with what you're dealing with.
So I got the new Smallrig grip for my X100VI, and I have a couple thoughts.
1) It looks really good. It fits the design very well, with the silver of the grip matching the silver of the camera perfectly, and the black grip fitting in very nicely.
2) Smallrig is using the same overly grippy silicone rubber for this grip as they do on their Nikon Zf grip, and I'm not a huge fan of this rubber. It's just a bit too sticky, and I wish it was more along the lines of the grips that Fujifilm has used on...Show more →
I have one for my X100V, as well. I never use it unless I want to do things on a tripod. My hands are probably smaller than yours, as I don't notice the crampiness of it. But again, I have it for specific purposes!
Meanwhile, I hope you're able to get a new camera. I would be very annoyed with what you're dealing with.
Apr 22, 2024 at 06:31 AM
p.20 #14X100VI first impressions + running commentary
The feel with Metro Case grip attached is very relaxed, due to the thumb support on the back. And the weight isn't noticeable.
video at the link: https://www.metro-case.com/grips/x100v-x100vi
video at the link: https://www.metro-case.com/grips/x100v-x100vi
Apr 22, 2024 at 08:22 AM
p.20 #15X100VI first impressions + running commentary
d-intrigue wrote:
The feel with Metro Case grip attached is very relaxed, due to the thumb support on the back. And the weight isn't noticeable.
video at the link: https://www.metro-case.com/grips/x100v-x100vi
I know you are a designer of these, and I'm sure they feel very nice...the aesthetics are not for me, though, as I think they really hamper the classic look of the camera. I also have questions about the long-term durability of a 3D printed arca-swiss plate. I don't mind the feel of the bare camera to be honest.
The feel with Metro Case grip attached is very relaxed, due to the thumb support on the back. And the weight isn't noticeable.
video at the link: https://www.metro-case.com/grips/x100v-x100vi
I know you are a designer of these, and I'm sure they feel very nice...the aesthetics are not for me, though, as I think they really hamper the classic look of the camera. I also have questions about the long-term durability of a 3D printed arca-swiss plate. I don't mind the feel of the bare camera to be honest.
Apr 22, 2024 at 08:58 AM
p.20 #16X100VI first impressions + running commentary
Jman13 wrote:
video at the link: https://www.metro-case.com/grips/x100v-x100viI know you are a designer of these, and I'm sure they feel very nice...the aesthetics are not for me, though, as I think they really hamper the classic look of the camera. I also have questions about the long-term durability of a 3D printed arca-swiss plate. I don't mind the feel of the bare camera to be honest.
I agree. That 3D printed plastic just does not look right with X100VI. Honestly though, none of the grips look right on X100 series cameras. To each their own but I have been perfectly fine with the way X100VI is. It's uncomfortable at times but I will just deal with it.
d-intrigue wrote
The feel with Metro Case grip attached is very relaxed, due to the thumb support on the back. And the weight isn't noticeable.video at the link: https://www.metro-case.com/grips/x100v-x100vi
I agree. That 3D printed plastic just does not look right with X100VI. Honestly though, none of the grips look right on X100 series cameras. To each their own but I have been perfectly fine with the way X100VI is. It's uncomfortable at times but I will just deal with it.
Apr 22, 2024 at 09:07 AM
p.20 #17X100VI first impressions + running commentary
Jman13 wrote:
video at the link: https://www.metro-case.com/grips/x100v-x100viI know you are a designer of these, and I'm sure they feel very nice...the aesthetics are not for me, though, as I think they really hamper the classic look of the camera. I also have questions about the long-term durability of a 3D printed arca-swiss plate. I don't mind the feel of the bare camera to be honest.
100%. These look like low-res 3d prints and completely clash with the aesthetics of the X100.
d-intrigue wrote
The feel with Metro Case grip attached is very relaxed, due to the thumb support on the back. And the weight isn't noticeable.video at the link: https://www.metro-case.com/grips/x100v-x100vi
100%. These look like low-res 3d prints and completely clash with the aesthetics of the X100.
Apr 22, 2024 at 09:46 AM
p.20 #18X100VI first impressions + running commentary
Jman13 wrote:
video at the link: https://www.metro-case.com/grips/x100v-x100viI know you are a designer of these, and I'm sure they feel very nice...the aesthetics are not for me, though, as I think they really hamper the classic look of the camera. I also have questions about the long-term durability of a 3D printed arca-swiss plate. I don't mind the feel of the bare camera to be honest.
imo, bare camera > any case
d-intrigue wrote
The feel with Metro Case grip attached is very relaxed, due to the thumb support on the back. And the weight isn't noticeable.video at the link: https://www.metro-case.com/grips/x100v-x100vi
imo, bare camera > any case
Apr 22, 2024 at 12:19 PM
p.20 #19X100VI first impressions + running commentary
Jman13 wrote:
So I got the new Smallrig grip for my X100VI, and I have a couple thoughts.
3) Unfortunately, I'm not a huge fan of the overall shape of the grip portion. They brought it all the way over to where the flare on the camera body is, which makes it look nice, but when combined with the rather significant depth and height causes your fingers to be pushed a little too tightly to the lens. Also, the way your fingers need to wrap around this shape puts your hand in a different hold than the camera was really designed for. As...Show more →
I was thinking the same thing when I first got mine and thought maybe I should return it. I agree the that it's a little weird at 1st. (for me, the camera felt a little off-balance when I had it at my side with a wrist strap holding onto the grip with 2 fingers on the grip and my pinky under the base.)
But after a few hours of use on a walkabout, I decided to keep it and think it actually works pretty good. The stickier grip helped balance the body with my fingers and it didn't feel off balance.
I'll only use it when I have an adapter on it anyways.
Cheers
So I got the new Smallrig grip for my X100VI, and I have a couple thoughts.
3) Unfortunately, I'm not a huge fan of the overall shape of the grip portion. They brought it all the way over to where the flare on the camera body is, which makes it look nice, but when combined with the rather significant depth and height causes your fingers to be pushed a little too tightly to the lens. Also, the way your fingers need to wrap around this shape puts your hand in a different hold than the camera was really designed for. As...Show more →
I was thinking the same thing when I first got mine and thought maybe I should return it. I agree the that it's a little weird at 1st. (for me, the camera felt a little off-balance when I had it at my side with a wrist strap holding onto the grip with 2 fingers on the grip and my pinky under the base.)
But after a few hours of use on a walkabout, I decided to keep it and think it actually works pretty good. The stickier grip helped balance the body with my fingers and it didn't feel off balance.
I'll only use it when I have an adapter on it anyways.
Cheers
Apr 22, 2024 at 10:31 PM
p.20 #20X100VI first impressions + running commentary
No grip is for everyone, similar to how no bicycle saddle is, either. I suppose there are those that prefer to simply show off their camera; grips are for those that want to actually use it. No grip is all that attractive, this one is arguably more pleasing to the eye than others with rather bulbous finger grips.
Having made grips for all X100 models going back many years, there are thousands of users who prefer the significant weight savings while enjoying a superior ergonomic and relaxed feel. Until you’ve handled one you won’t know how comfortable it is.
I suppose there are those that prefer to simply show off their camera; grips are for those that want to actually use it. No grip is all that attractive, this one is arguably more pleasing to the eye than others with rather bulbous finger grips.Having made grips for all X100 models going back many years, there are thousands of users who prefer the significant weight savings while enjoying a superior ergonomic and relaxed feel. Until you’ve handled one you won’t know how comfortable it is.
Apr 23, 2024 at 08:17 AM