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p.2 #1 · Nikon Z and macro


saaketham wrote:
z 105mm f/2.8 S MC - sold it, but always tempted to buy another copy when I see one on sale on FM
https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Sale/Nikon-z-105mm-f28-VR-MC-S/i-VWdMV6z/0/3186bd4e/X4/DSC_8988-X4.jpg
https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Sale/Nikon-z-105mm-f28-VR-MC-S/i-TWCbfm6/0/7ee6785f/X4/DSC_0272-X4.jpg
https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Sale/Nikon-z7ii/i-4rNjNR6/0/e60f0072/X4/DSC_9625-DeNoiseAI-standard-X4.jpg
https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Sale/Nikon-z-105mm-f28-VR-MC-S/i-J7ZzVtd/0/7ba05feb/X4/DSC_9450-X4.jpg
https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Sale/Nikon-z-105mm-f28-VR-MC-S/i-WwFqwcx/0/ebb5fb5f/X4/DSC_0234-X4.jpg


WOW..

Looks like this Nikon 105/2.8 is a really good lens for macro!
Are these crops? Did you use AF?

I'm asking about AF as I would like to use focus stacking on my Zf.

Does all Z bodies have that focus stacking feature? Is it easy to run? Just pick a feature, aim (AF) and press release button?
Did any of you guys try it? Would you be able to share a sample?



Nov 29, 2023 at 05:17 PM
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p.2 #2 · Nikon Z and macro


phinix wrote:
Did any of you guys try it? Would you be able to share a sample?


https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1832288v



Nov 29, 2023 at 05:20 PM
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p.2 #3 · Nikon Z and macro


molson wrote:
I like the Z 105mm f2.5 S macro, but I would like to see Nikon add something in the 200mm range.


This photo is phenomenal!



Nov 29, 2023 at 05:24 PM
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p.2 #4 · Nikon Z and macro


I have the Laowa 85 f5.6. The smaller aperture is not a huge issue for macro as your stopping down for depth of field anyway. I would just add that it is only f5.6 at infinity and the effective aperture at macro magnifications is around f11. I typically use mine with the aperture ring set to f11 and I shoot 90% of the time in the 2x range.
As others have mentioned, the main drawback is manual focus not allowing use of the focus stacking function in the Z cameras.

A few examples.
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1599448/237#16070510
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1599448/243#16102823
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1599448/249#16159719
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1599448/291#16396907

Cheers
Leigh



Nov 29, 2023 at 05:43 PM
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p.2 #5 · Nikon Z and macro


Ripolini wrote:
To use "automatic" focus stacking you need either a AF-S (F-mount) lens + FTZ or a Nikkor Z lens. AF/AF-D Nikkor lenses won't AF on Z bodies.
However, there are excellent macro photographer who can focus stack manually. It's not that difficult
You can start from the first tutorials by Micheal Erlewine:

etc.


Yeah, sounds easy like this guy shows here:




Nov 29, 2023 at 05:46 PM
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p.2 #6 · Nikon Z and macro


phinix wrote:
Are these crops? Did you use AF?


I crop most images to 5K or 4K resolution, so yes - they're all cropped to some extent.
Mostly AF, using magnified view, on a tripod, with flash
I've not done much focus-stacking - only did it once and it was easy enough.
You go into the menu, set your stacking interval + number of shots + some other settings,
click and the camera does the rest. Then you can merge them in Photoshop easily.

I'd just get the 105 S and be done - in fact, someone's listed one on FM currently.
It's a great macro lens.
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-hwP4Cqm/0/3a07f26f/X4/i-hwP4Cqm-X4.jpg
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-jQkNB3M/0/43a34418/X4/i-jQkNB3M-X4.jpg
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-wKSg868/0/ca429f4d/X4/i-wKSg868-X4.jpg



Nov 29, 2023 at 06:08 PM
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p.2 #7 · Nikon Z and macro


saaketham wrote:
I crop most images to 5K or 4K resolution, so yes - they're all cropped to some extent.
Mostly AF, using magnified view, on a tripod, with flash
I've not done much focus-stacking - only did it once and it was easy enough.
You go into the menu, set your stacking interval + number of shots + some other settings,
click and the camera does the rest. Then you can merge them in Photoshop easily.

I'd just get the 105 S and be done - in fact, someone's listed one on FM currently.
It's a great macro lens.
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-hwP4Cqm/0/3a07f26f/X4/i-hwP4Cqm-X4.jpg
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-jQkNB3M/0/43a34418/X4/i-jQkNB3M-X4.jpg
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-wKSg868/0/ca429f4d/X4/i-wKSg868-X4.jpg


Beautiful photos again.
Yeah, looks like 105mm is getting straight on my list, so once I get Zf from pre-order, I will be looking to get Nikon 26mm 2.8, that 105mm 2.8 Macro and Voigtlander 40mm 1.2 Z. Or will start with just 40/2.



Nov 29, 2023 at 06:38 PM
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p.2 #8 · Nikon Z and macro


phinix wrote:
To use Nikon Zf focus stacking, I understand I would need AF macro lens?


AF-S. AF-D will not focus on Z cameras



Nov 29, 2023 at 06:50 PM
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p.2 #9 · Nikon Z and macro


Why he says 105mm is slow?




Nov 29, 2023 at 07:54 PM
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p.2 #10 · Nikon Z and macro


Macro lenses focus slower


Nov 29, 2023 at 07:59 PM
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p.2 #11 · Nikon Z and macro


the 105Z focus stacking works best in conjunction with software like Helicon Focus.








Nov 29, 2023 at 09:12 PM
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p.2 #12 · Nikon Z and macro


saaketham wrote:
Macro lenses focus slower


Yes but he also said that the Canon 100 Macro on R5 focuses faster ...



Nov 30, 2023 at 05:59 AM
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p.2 #13 · Nikon Z and macro


Another option is to use a close-up lens, such as the Canon 500D, that works well with a 70-200mm zoom.


Nov 30, 2023 at 06:13 AM
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p.2 #14 · Nikon Z and macro


Ripolini wrote:
Yes but he also said that the Canon 100 Macro on R5 focuses faster ...


He says a lot of things. 🙂

I got several keepers, shooting with the Z 105 MC over many weeks. I highly recommend it for macro.
I did not recommend it for full body outdoor portraits, because I didn't like the background rendering, compared to a 105 f/1.4.

But if Canon is better, then great - I have no experience with Canon mirrorless. 🙏🏼



Nov 30, 2023 at 06:30 AM
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p.2 #15 · Nikon Z and macro


Answering a different macro question in a different thread .. but maybe useful here?
Original question: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1706734/12

Nikon D7000 + Zeiss Makro-Planar T* 2/100 ZF.2
https://photos.smugmug.com/Flora/i-KpWcDvW/0/3d6a03fc/X3/DSC_1912-X3.jpg
https://photos.smugmug.com/Flora/i-CF4PDfm/0/a37866b5/X3/DSC_1972-X3.jpg
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-SCrTK7S/0/011f3355/X3/i-SCrTK7S-X3.jpg
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-33SBx3c/0/daa2143b/X3/i-33SBx3c-X3.jpg




Nov 30, 2023 at 07:41 AM
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p.2 #16 · Nikon Z and macro


No, only some have it and it comes in two versions. Some bodies will adjust the focus in pre-chosen steps, and then you need software to stack them (my preferred method) while other's will stack them in camera and give you a stacked photo. Unfortunately as far as I know that final shot is a JPG, never a raw or tiff, so I have little use for it.


Dec 02, 2023 at 10:01 PM
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p.2 #17 · Nikon Z and macro


Shot with the Zeiss Milvus 100/2. Pretty much SOOC.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50506415872_19c6da8730_h.jpg



Dec 03, 2023 at 12:11 AM
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p.2 #18 · Nikon Z and macro


Almost bought a Tokina 100mm, 1:1 and has af. Not sure if the older Pro D has af on the Z or not, atx-i might do better on adapting. I doubt they had much trouble making excellent 100mm macros by the time this came out

I've also looked at the 60's 55/3.5's, too short for a lot if my macro but supposed to be excellent, 27.5mm tubes to get to 1:1 aren't too unwieldy imo vs 52.5mm on the 105's. I use 180, and have used tc a lot, on bugs and butterflies that fly off, but that's harder



Dec 03, 2023 at 12:00 PM
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p.2 #19 · Nikon Z and macro


AmbientMike wrote:
Almost bought a Tokina 100mm, 1:1 and has af. Not sure if the older Pro D has af on the Z or not, atx-i might do better on adapting. I doubt they had much trouble making excellent 100mm macros by the time this came out

I've also looked at the 60's 55/3.5's, too short for a lot if my macro but supposed to be excellent, 27.5mm tubes to get to 1:1 aren't too unwieldy imo vs 52.5mm on the 105's. I use 180, and have used tc a lot, on bugs and butterflies that fly off, but that's harder


The Pro D will NOT af with Z cameras.



Dec 03, 2023 at 04:15 PM
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I went with a Sigma 105mm f2.8 OS with an FTZ. It seems pretty good so far. I've had good luck with Sigma macros. Plus the lens only cost me £190 second hand, so I consider it a huge bargain over the Nikon 105 MC.


Dec 18, 2023 at 01:31 AM
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