p.2 #3 · How to remove front lens cap from Nikon Z!
gear-nut wrote:
The lens is so freaking hard to get, I would look. Admittedly, the packaging Nikon gives this lens is a joke. It’s packed like the pancakes.
Agreed! Nikon has cheeped out everywhere they can not just packaging! Bothersome seeing all the cheapness coming from Nikon.. Sad...
p.2 #4 · How to remove front lens cap from Nikon Z!
I had this (cap getting jammed inside front of lens) happen after packing my Z 70-200 with its lens cap facing down, luckily it wasn't too difficult to remove, and there was no damage done to my lens.
p.2 #5 · How to remove front lens cap from Nikon Z!
gear-nut wrote:
The lens is so freaking hard to get, I would look. Admittedly, the packaging Nikon gives this lens is a joke. It’s packed like the pancakes.
Agreed, and why I always take a video of unboxing as mentioned by another, ever since I had a Nikon refurb lens come absolutely shattered (multiple elements) that they gave me a hard time over. Heck, you can find pictures here of how my 1st 600PF arrived. Nikon box inside a brown box with too much room and 1-2 air packets. Entire side of both boxes were caved in. Nikon issued an RMA on that from photos alone.
Replacement lens from B&H came packaged properly like a near $5000 lens should.
p.2 #6 · How to remove front lens cap from Nikon Z!
rand17 wrote:
Agreed! Nikon has cheeped out everywhere they can not just packaging! Bothersome seeing all the cheapness coming from Nikon.. Sad...
I simply disagree with the fundamental premise of this post. While Nikon has chosen to reduce their packaging standards and use flimsy lens cloth pouches, I do not think that Nikon has "cheeped out" with respect to the 180-600.
First, you can't blame the lens cap issue on a lens that is not supposed to be tossed around during shipping. All sorts of cameras and lenses move out of alignment or experience impact damage as a result of poor shipping practices.
Second, if you compare this lens to the overlapping F-mount equivalent, specifically the 200-500, this one is an immense upgrade for only $200 more.
- While the two share a similar and crappy tripod collar, something that is true of the very expensive Canon 100-500L, the rest of the 180-600 could be considered an S-Lens for non-S prices.
- The lens has a well designed internal zoom that does not shift balance when zoomed (in contrast to the 200-500).
- The lens has a solid and mostly metal feeling/construction (in contrast to the 200-500).
- The VR is better than the prior model.
- The 180-600 has a far better lens hood.
- The zoom throw is shorter than the prior model.
- The lens is optically better, sharper, and more contrasty than the prior model.
To be clear, these comments are coming from someone who also shoots the 400 f4.5 and 800PF. While the 180-600 is not without its faults, I'd hardly say that Nikon cheeped out. The 180-600 delivers a very high image quality when you consider what you pay.
p.2 #8 · How to remove front lens cap from Nikon Z!
if it was dropped in transit, you should see some significant damage to the box. This cap may just not have been applied properly at the factory. Personally, I would push the lifted spring in and gently lift. I have done this sort of thing to many of my Nikon lenses and had to remove the lens caps because they were jammed.
p.2 #10 · How to remove front lens cap from Nikon Z!
harvey steeves wrote:
if it was dropped in transit, you should see some significant damage to the box. This cap may just not have been applied properly at the factory. Personally, I would push the lifted spring in and gently lift. I have done this sort of thing to many of my Nikon lenses and had to remove the lens caps because they were jammed.
True but also consider sudden blunt-force acceleration+deceleration events (ex: drops) that can leave the shipping box unscathed but subject the contents to a lot of force.
p.2 #11 · How to remove front lens cap from Nikon Z!
snapsy wrote:
True but also consider sudden blunt-force acceleration+deceleration events (ex: drops) that can leave the shipping box unscathed but subject the contents to a lot of force.
These packages should be designed in a way that any application of force that would damage the content would cause some kind of deformation of the package visible from outside. Events that do not cause such deformations should - giving the dampening of the force by the packaging material - not result in an acceleration/deceleration that would limit the product.
p.2 #12 · How to remove front lens cap from Nikon Z!
AcuteShadows wrote:
These packages should be designed in a way that any application of force that would damage the content would cause some kind of deformation of the package visible from outside. Events that do not cause such deformations should - giving the dampening of the force by the packaging material - not result in an acceleration/deceleration that would limit the product.
Visualize a box dropping (or being thrown) flat on the floor.
p.2 #13 · How to remove front lens cap from Nikon Z!
OwlsEyes wrote:
I simply disagree with the fundamental premise of this post. While Nikon has chosen to reduce their packaging standards and use flimsy lens cloth pouches, I do not think that Nikon has "cheeped out" with respect to the 180-600.
First, you can't blame the lens cap issue on a lens that is not supposed to be tossed around during shipping. All sorts of cameras and lenses move out of alignment or experience impact damage as a result of poor shipping practices.
Second, if you compare this lens to the overlapping F-mount equivalent, specifically the 200-500, this one is an immense upgrade for only $200 more.
- While the two share a similar and crappy tripod collar, something that is true of the very expensive Canon 100-500L, the rest of the 180-600 could be considered an S-Lens for non-S prices.
- The lens has a well designed internal zoom that does not shift balance when zoomed (in contrast to the 200-500).
- The lens has a solid and mostly metal feeling/construction (in contrast to the 200-500).
- The VR is better than the prior model.
- The 180-600 has a far better lens hood.
- The zoom throw is shorter than the prior model.
- The lens is optically better, sharper, and more contrasty than the prior model.
To be clear, these comments are coming from someone who also shoots the 400 f4.5 and 800PF. While the 180-600 is not without its faults, I'd hardly say that Nikon cheeped out. The 180-600 delivers a very high image quality when you consider what you pay.
You're correct for the most part...the 180-600 IS a value lens...and pretty good bang for you buck! I was meaning "overall" ... remember not long ago Nikon was all most done for!.. many fan boys think they're financial condition has always been stellar.. but far from reality...hence all the desperate cuts across the board they have made in the past few years...
p.2 #15 · How to remove front lens cap from Nikon Z!
AcuteShadows wrote:
These packages should be designed in a way that any application of force that would damage the content would cause some kind of deformation of the package visible from outside. Events that do not cause such deformations should - giving the dampening of the force by the packaging material - not result in an acceleration/deceleration that would limit the product.
Better yet!! why not have competent people that handle our packages and not have to put baby bumpers on everything to protect from stupidity!
p.2 #16 · How to remove front lens cap from Nikon Z!
snapsy wrote:
Visualize a box dropping (or being thrown) flat on the floor.
In this case, there would be zero angular momentum working on the content of the box, which greatly decreases the risk of damage. While deformation would be minimal in this case, it would still be visible if the impact force or the absorbed energy is larger.
p.2 #17 · How to remove front lens cap from Nikon Z!
The criticism should be on Nikon here. The 180-600 box I received from B&H still had some degree of damage to it even though B&H practically mummy wrapped it. The issue is that there is hardly any sort of packing material inside the 180-600mm box to keep the product box from getting smashed, and/or the lens bouncing around. The flimsy cardboard inserts hardly do their job!
p.2 #18 · How to remove front lens cap from Nikon Z!
AcuteShadows wrote:
In this case, there would be zero angular momentum working on the content of the box, which greatly decreases the risk of damage. While deformation would be minimal in this case, it would still be visible if the impact force or the absorbed energy is larger.
