p.20 #1 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
weezintrumpete wrote:
I'm a little confused about when the green eye focus point works with adapted lenses. If I wanted to adapt my m-mount Voigtlander 35mm to the Zf, do I get the green eye box? Or does it depend on what kind of adapter I use or does it not work at all?
I know that Voigtlander Z-mount lenses will work with this due to them having contacts.
Any clarity here is helpful!
Since you're interested in the eye-focus, I recommend not bothering trying to get the green box to work using one of the adapters that will allow it to. Why? At very wide apertures (f/1.4 and wider) at close distance the green box loves to tell you you're in focus when you hit the eyelashes or eyebrow instead of the iris of the eye. Just let the eye-AF do it's thing and track the eye, punch in to max magnification using an assigned function button, focus, and shoot. The first shot will force the viewfinder to zoom out, then you can fire off a few more, then repeat as needed.
If you shoot at further distances and/or stopped down to f/2 or smaller, then the green box can be useful for eye-focus without zooming in. Otherwise at f/1.2 to f/1.4, it's too frustrating, or at least for me it is.
p.20 #2 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
pdesopo wrote:
Is there a reliable Nikon EN-EL15c replacement? Or do you guys use only original batteries?
I bought a third-party from Amazon, the camera showed me a warning, and it wouldn't start.
And what about the charger? Any good option?
Just buy the Nikon batteries and charger. It's not worth the savings to have a generic battery bloat up like a dead possum in your camera one day out of the blue.
p.20 #3 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
highdesertmesa wrote:
Since you're interested in the eye-focus, I recommend not bothering trying to get the green box to work using one of the adapters that will allow it to. Why? At very wide apertures (f/1.4 and wider) at close distance the green box loves to tell you you're in focus when you hit the eyelashes or eyebrow instead of the iris of the eye. Just let the eye-AF do it's thing and track the eye, punch in to max magnification using an assigned function button, focus, and shoot. The first shot will force the viewfinder to zoom out, then you can fire off a few more, then repeat as needed.
If you shoot at further distances and/or stopped down to f/2 or smaller, then the green box can be useful for eye-focus without zooming in. Otherwise at f/1.2 to f/1.4, it's too frustrating, or at least for me it is....Show more →
Oh, maybe I was confused. With non-chipped adapters / lenses, do you still get the box around the eye that allows you to punch in? That's all I really care about. I see where I was confused - that box will turn green to show that the eye is in focus only with chipped lenses / adapters.
p.20 #6 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
Do we know if Cosina has any plans to bring more Z mount Voigtlanders in near future?
I would like to see 21mm Color Skopar and 35/1.5 for Z.
Now with Zf out, they must be planning some more, what do you guys think?
p.20 #8 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
phinix wrote:
Do we know if Cosina has any plans to bring more Z mount Voigtlanders in near future?
I would like to see 21mm Color Skopar and 35/1.5 for Z.
Now with Zf out, they must be planning some more, what do you guys think?
Cosina didn't announce any new lenses for November or December release (usually they announce upcoming lens releases about 1 month in advance). So it looks like anything new from them will be in January at the earliest. Their 40/1.2 for Nikon Z has been a strong seller since the Zf got announced and it's been backordered for many weeks now. I think some of their other Z-mount FF lenses also got a good boost from the Zf release.
I think they'll have more motivation to bring out new FF lenses for Z-mount going forward but I have no idea on what/when. I wouldn't count on 21/3.5 or 21/1.4 though since neither version of 21/1.4 have been strong sellers at least in Japan and since 21/3.5 for E already got discontinued.
I think they could come up with 35/1.4 Nokton classic for Z at some point so it's always been one of the bestsellers in E-mount, or some other new version of a 35mm lens.
p.20 #10 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
phinix wrote:
Do we know if Cosina has any plans to bring more Z mount Voigtlanders in near future?
I would like to see 21mm Color Skopar and 35/1.5 for Z.
Now with Zf out, they must be planning some more, what do you guys think?
p.20 #13 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
PASM modes are still a little confusing to me.
On my Fuji X-Pro 2, when using a manual lens, I can let the camera control the ISO, while I'm in control of the shutter speed. At the same time, I can still adjust the exposure compensation via the dedicated dial.
I'm trying to get a similar setup on the ZF, but I can't seem to find a way.
So far, I've been able to adjust the exposure compensation while using manual lenses, only when the shooting mode is on P.
It seems that the only way for me to manually control the shutter speed, and leave the ISO to the camera, is by shooting on M mode (with Auto-ISO on). But in this case, the exposure compensation doesn't work anymore. In fact, it's not even available under the customization menu:
p.20 #14 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
pdesopo wrote:
PASM modes are still a little confusing to me.
On my Fuji X-Pro 2, when using a manual lens, I can let the camera control the ISO, while I'm in control of the shutter speed. At the same time, I can still adjust the exposure compensation via the dedicated dial.
I'm trying to get a similar setup on the ZF, but I can't seem to find a way.
So far, I've been able to adjust the exposure compensation while using manual lenses, only when the shooting mode is on P.
It seems that the only way for me to manually control the shutter speed, and leave the ISO to the camera, is by shooting on M mode (with Auto-ISO on). But in this case, the exposure compensation doesn't work anymore. In fact, it's not even available under the customization menu:
p.20 #15 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
OffTrail wrote:
The dedicated exposure compensation dial works in M with Auto-ISO on. That's with a non-CPU lens attached via FTZ.
Then it's confusing. Does it work only with an FTZ adapter? That wouldn't make much sense.
But also, how can the exposure compensation work even with the FTZ adapter when it's not available in the customization menu?
Okay, I figured out what's going on, and I think this is a bug.
When in M mode, the exposure compensation works, but only if operated through the dial. If the exposure compensation dial is set to C, which would then transfer the control over to the back main command dial, then it doesn't work anymore.
So, when in M mode, to tweak the exposure compensation the only way is through the dial on the top.
It doesn't end here. When changing the exposure compensation in M mode, the Exposure Indicator stops working. The only indication that the exposure compensation is being changed is the +- icon next to the Exposure Indicator.
Furthermore, the only value representation of how much the exposure compensation is being changed is available on the Monitor, and only when the information display is used.
p.20 #16 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
Paul Z wrote:
It would be the same size as the F-mount with FTZ built in. I'm using the F-mount on Z and X-mount
A small but imo significant difference would be that you could use the aperture ring on a native Z version whereas you have to use the command dial with the FTZ. I find the former a much more enjoyable experience but it’s a tough trade-off against the adaptability of F mount lenses.
p.20 #17 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
pdesopo wrote:
Then it's confusing. Does it work only with an FTZ adapter? That wouldn't make much sense.
But also, how can the exposure compensation work even with the FTZ adapter when it's not available in the customization menu?
Okay, I figured out what's going on, and I think this is a bug.
When in M mode, the exposure compensation works, but only if operated through the dial. If the exposure compensation dial is set to C, which would then transfer the control over to the back main command dial, then it doesn't work anymore.
So, when in M mode, to tweak the exposure compensation the only way is through the dial on the top.
It doesn't end here. When changing the exposure compensation in M mode, the Exposure Indicator stops working. The only indication that the exposure compensation is being changed is the +- icon next to the Exposure Indicator.
Furthermore, the only value representation of how much the exposure compensation is being changed is available on the Monitor, and only when the information display is used....Show more →
I just dug out a dumb adapter and it also worked with that.
And I do see what you're saying about the exposure indicator, but that's normal for Nikon. When you're in manual mode and you have an exposure compensation value dialed in, the camera sets the exposure indicator's "0" to whatever your exposure compensation value is. All you get is the +/- icon to let you know that an adjustment has been made, and you can press the exposure compensation button or the info button to see what that adjustment actually is.
p.20 #18 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
Juha Kannisto wrote:
Cosina didn't announce any new lenses for November or December release (usually they announce upcoming lens releases about 1 month in advance). So it looks like anything new from them will be in January at the earliest. Their 40/1.2 for Nikon Z has been a strong seller since the Zf got announced and it's been backordered for many weeks now. I think some of their other Z-mount FF lenses also got a good boost from the Zf release.
I think they'll have more motivation to bring out new FF lenses for Z-mount going forward but I have no idea on what/when. I wouldn't count on 21/3.5 or 21/1.4 though since neither version of 21/1.4 have been strong sellers at least in Japan and since 21/3.5 for E already got discontinued.
I think they could come up with 35/1.4 Nokton classic for Z at some point so it's always been one of the bestsellers in E-mount, or some other new version of a 35mm lens....Show more →
Worst case if I wanted 21mm I could get E version and megadap adapter.
However yes, nice 35mm would be nice Like that 1.5 new version would look nice in Z mount I would say.
I know you keep your hand on a pulse there, so please keep us updated if you hear or see anything there from Cosina.
p.20 #19 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
phinix wrote:
Worst case if I wanted 21mm I could get E version and megadap adapter.
However yes, nice 35mm would be nice Like that 1.5 new version would look nice in Z mount I would say.
I know you keep your hand on a pulse there, so please keep us updated if you hear or see anything there from Cosina.
Thanks! Yes, I'll surely post here when there is some news from Cosina.
p.20 #20 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
Juha Kannisto wrote:
Cosina didn't announce any new lenses for November or December release (usually they announce upcoming lens releases about 1 month in advance). So it looks like anything new from them will be in January at the earliest. Their 40/1.2 for Nikon Z has been a strong seller since the Zf got announced and it's been backordered for many weeks now. I think some of their other Z-mount FF lenses also got a good boost from the Zf release.
I think they'll have more motivation to bring out new FF lenses for Z-mount going forward but I have no idea on what/when. I wouldn't count on 21/3.5 or 21/1.4 though since neither version of 21/1.4 have been strong sellers at least in Japan and since 21/3.5 for E already got discontinued.
I think they could come up with 35/1.4 Nokton classic for Z at some point so it's always been one of the bestsellers in E-mount, or some other new version of a 35mm lens....Show more →
21/3.5 would be great for making a really lightweight kit. 21/1.4 is intriguing and images are beautiful,however with the weight, it makes it a bit less interesting in practical use. At the same time, either of them would be a great addition to the lineup. I am also interested in seeing lightweight 90 mm or 100mm before they fill more 25-35 mm range as short tele is a gaping hole in the setup. Do you think there is a possibility for short tele addition?
Like that 1.5 new version would look nice in Z mount I would say.