p.1 #1 · Official: Nikon announced NIKKOR Z 135mm f/1.8 S Plena lens
The NIKKOR Z 135mm f/1.8 S Plena is a prime lens known for its exceptional brightness. Its name, derived from Latin, signifies a state of complete spatial fullness. This lens aims to excel in light capture, producing pleasing background blur (bokeh), and delivering sharpness from corner to corner of the image.
Nikon meticulously crafted this lens to ensure consistent brightness across the entire frame. Its 11-blade diaphragm and substantial rear glass element contribute to creating a circular bokeh effect and adding a three-dimensional quality to images. With its 135mm focal length and wide f/1.8 aperture, it allows for creating a shallow depth of field, enhancing your photography experience. Unlike the Noct lens, the Plena supports autofocus, but it lacks built-in vibration reduction (VR). This lens consists of 16 lens elements in 14 groups and has a weight of approximately 2.2 pounds or 995 grams.
p.1 #4 · Official: Nikon announced NIKKOR Z 135mm f/1.8 S Plena lens
Richard-BB wrote:
About the same weight as Sony or Canon 135mm lenses? As for prices? Nikon wins in terms of style?
The Sony 135/1.8 is 950g, $2,098 USD
The Canon RF 135/1.8 is 935g, $2,099 USD
The Nikon 135/1.8 is 995g $2,496 USD
I suspect the Nikon will be the best of the 3, as it is the newest and Z lenses are often best in class when a direct comparison can be made, but it's also slightly heavier and more expensive so everything is a trade off depending on your priorities.
p.1 #5 · Official: Nikon announced NIKKOR Z 135mm f/1.8 S Plena lens
CanadaMark wrote:
The Sony 135/1.8 is 950g, $2,098 USD
The Canon 135/2 is 780g, $2,099 USD
The Nikon 135/1.8 is 995g $2,496 USD
I suspect the Nikon will be the best of the 3, as it is the newest and Z lenses are often best in class when a direct comparison can be made, but it's also slightly heavier and more expensive so everything is a trade off depending on your priorities.
The RF Canon is a F1.8 with Image stabilization (which the other two brands don't have). It also weighs 935g.
The Canon 135/2 is an EF lens and is ancient. I'm going to assume you did not mean to compare that lens to the new Nikon and Sony lenses.
p.1 #7 · Official: Nikon announced NIKKOR Z 135mm f/1.8 S Plena lens
Looks nice, and adds to the growing list of reasons I have to reconsider the Z series. I'm surprised they didn't get on this sooner; I consider a fast 135mm to be a mandatory part of any camera system, just as much as a fast 50mm or a 24-70mm.
Though, I take issue with the statement that it is "known for its exceptional brightness"; how can it be known for anything when it's only just been announced?
Also I'm a bit confused as to what's going on with this weight/size/pricing. The Canon equivalent is about 1cm narrower and shorter, weighs 30g less, yet has IS/VR... and nobody can accuse that lens of not having great optics and autofocus, too. I can't really see where that size and weight has gone. It's hard to imagine how this lens could offer such significantly better performance that it justifies not having VR and costing $400 more than either the Canon or Sony.
Granted, anyone who is already deeply-invested in one system or the other doesn't really have a choice and will just have to accept whatever, but for people like me who do float between systems... as I said, it looks nice and I'll be keeping an eye on reviews, but there's definitely a question mark over the value and what Nikon have optimised this for.
p.1 #8 · Official: Nikon announced NIKKOR Z 135mm f/1.8 S Plena lens
sebjmatthews wrote:
Looks nice, and adds to the growing list of reasons I have to reconsider the Z series. I'm surprised they didn't get on this sooner; I consider a fast 135mm to be a mandatory part of any camera system, just as much as a fast 50mm or a 24-70mm.
Though, I take issue with the statement that it is "known for its exceptional brightness"; how can it be known for anything when it's only just been announced?
Also I'm a bit confused as to what's going on with this weight/size/pricing. The Canon equivalent is about 1cm narrower and shorter, weighs 30g less, yet has IS/VR... and nobody can accuse that lens of not having great optics and autofocus, too. I can't really see where that size and weight has gone. It's hard to imagine how this lens could offer such significantly better performance that it justifies not having VR and costing $400 more than either the Canon or Sony.
Granted, anyone who is already deeply-invested in one system or the other doesn't really have a choice and will just have to accept whatever, but for people like me who do float between systems... as I said, it looks nice and I'll be keeping an eye on reviews, but there's definitely a question mark over the value and what Nikon have optimised this for....Show more →
It seemed pretty clear regarding the weight/size/pricing. The Nikon 135mm is all metal construction which adds a little weight. The engineering required for a uniform bokeh all the way to the corners contributed to the size, weight, and lack of VR. The sample images clearly show the design choices Nikon made compared to Canon and Sony which both have cat-eye bokeh in the corner with Sony being the worst. No everyone prioritizes bokeh as a top priority though. I will say as a non-portrait photographer who does not own any Z primes yet, this the first one to get my attention and willingness to open my wallet eventually. Sadly as a hobbyist I will wait until there's a refurbished sale someday. It may be years from now, but someday there will be a sale like the 85mm 1.2 this week. After I get the 180-600mm in the mail, this 135mm 1.8 is at the top of my list.
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p.1 #9 · Official: Nikon announced NIKKOR Z 135mm f/1.8 S Plena lens
sebjmatthews wrote:
Looks nice, and adds to the growing list of reasons I have to reconsider the Z series. I'm surprised they didn't get on this sooner; I consider a fast 135mm to be a mandatory part of any camera system, just as much as a fast 50mm or a 24-70mm.
Though, I take issue with the statement that it is "known for its exceptional brightness"; how can it be known for anything when it's only just been announced?
Also I'm a bit confused as to what's going on with this weight/size/pricing. The Canon equivalent is about 1cm narrower and shorter, weighs 30g less, yet has IS/VR... and nobody can accuse that lens of not having great optics and autofocus, too. I can't really see where that size and weight has gone. It's hard to imagine how this lens could offer such significantly better performance that it justifies not having VR and costing $400 more than either the Canon or Sony.
Granted, anyone who is already deeply-invested in one system or the other doesn't really have a choice and will just have to accept whatever, but for people like me who do float between systems... as I said, it looks nice and I'll be keeping an eye on reviews, but there's definitely a question mark over the value and what Nikon have optimised this for....Show more →
The slightly higher weight (and perhaps price) is probably due to the larger number of elements (i.e., pieces of glass) in the lens. Both the Sony and Canon mirrorless 135 f/1.8 lenses are excellent. What Nikon is kind of sort of claiming is that this lens is as good as those competitors with better bokeh and less vignetting and if that is true I for one am willing to pay the higher price and live without the lens based image stabilization. For a lens of 135mm I am happy with just camera body based image stabilization.
I haven't used the Canon but have used the Sony (it is fantastic) and slight vignetting and only average bokeh are the only areas where I could possibly complain. It looks like Nikon did a good job with this lens and addressed the only areas that were not exemplary with the competing lenses, but in all honesty all three lenses are so good it is hard to imagine anyone being unhappy with any of them.
p.1 #10 · Official: Nikon announced NIKKOR Z 135mm f/1.8 S Plena lens
From Nikon's videos it looks like the prototype had a 112mm front opening but were worried about the marketability of such a big front heavy lens. Wonder if they originally did plan for a faster aperture. I for one would have loved to have seen that.
p.1 #11 · Official: Nikon announced NIKKOR Z 135mm f/1.8 S Plena lens
That's bigger than the filter size on my XF200 F2. I can't even find the lens cap size for the F mount 200F2. Yeah I know there's a demographic for the Nikon 200, but man from a portability standpoint I'm actually glad they dialed it back a bit. I do street photography and walk around the park with these things so something that's basically a dedicated bag lens that I need on a monopod isn't exactly attractive to me. nhmorgan wrote:
From Nikon's videos it looks like the prototype had a 112mm front opening but were worried about the marketability of such a big front heavy lens. Wonder if they originally did plan for a faster aperture. I for one would have loved to have seen that.
p.1 #12 · Official: Nikon announced NIKKOR Z 135mm f/1.8 S Plena lens
Yeah, Sigma made a 105mm f/1.4 lens with a 105mm filter thread, and that lens was widely criticised for its size, especially the front diameter, and didn't sell very well despite it having excellent optics, build and focus. I can't imagine anyone successfully putting out a lens with a 112mm front end, other than super-teles. Nobody's going to care how big a 600mm f/4 gets, but a 135mm is something wedding photographers expect to fit in their bag alongside 2-4 other lenses, and slap a diffusion filter on.
I'll be shocked if we ever see any major company putting out one of these 'workhorse' lenses with a front filter any larger than 82mm.
p.1 #16 · Official: Nikon announced NIKKOR Z 135mm f/1.8 S Plena lens
Nikon's Plena lens design philosophy is truly fascinating, encompassing all the qualities I seek. I am looking forward to additional lenses in this series that maintain a consistent design language.
p.1 #17 · Official: Nikon announced NIKKOR Z 135mm f/1.8 S Plena lens
sebjmatthews wrote:
Looks nice, and adds to the growing list of reasons I have to reconsider the Z series. I'm surprised they didn't get on this sooner; I consider a fast 135mm to be a mandatory part of any camera system, just as much as a fast 50mm or a 24-70mm.
Though, I take issue with the statement that it is "known for its exceptional brightness"; how can it be known for anything when it's only just been announced?
Also I'm a bit confused as to what's going on with this weight/size/pricing. The Canon equivalent is about 1cm narrower and shorter, weighs 30g less, yet has IS/VR... and nobody can accuse that lens of not having great optics and autofocus, too. I can't really see where that size and weight has gone. It's hard to imagine how this lens could offer such significantly better performance that it justifies not having VR and costing $400 more than either the Canon or Sony.
Granted, anyone who is already deeply-invested in one system or the other doesn't really have a choice and will just have to accept whatever, but for people like me who do float between systems... as I said, it looks nice and I'll be keeping an eye on reviews, but there's definitely a question mark over the value and what Nikon have optimised this for....Show more →
Different design priorities.
Canon went with IS. Nikon wanted to correct for some peripheral traits which likely needed the large rear elements.
p.1 #18 · Official: Nikon announced NIKKOR Z 135mm f/1.8 S Plena lens
hiepphotog wrote:
Nikon's Plena lens design philosophy is truly fascinating, encompassing all the qualities I seek. I am looking forward to additional lenses in this series that maintain a consistent design language.
Prospect of an update to the venerable F-mount 105mm f/1.4E is exciting but given this is one of their best lenses in F-mount it might be one of the last FL’s to make it to Z mount.
But would it be part of the f/1.2 series or Plena (if it becomes a series)?
Or both (f/1.2 Plena) but I fear that might make it unwieldy large given the even larger exit pupil of 87.5mm vs 75mm.
p.1 #19 · Official: Nikon announced NIKKOR Z 135mm f/1.8 S Plena lens
swifty168 wrote:
exit pupil of 87.5mm vs 75mm.
Pedant mode ON
Entrance pupil. The exit pupil depends on the pupillary magnification factor of the lens design. For telephoto lenses typically the exit pupil is smaller than the entrance pupil.
Pedant mode OFF
Nikon did say in their video the Plena early prototypes had a 112mm front element but they had “market concerns” about such a large lens. So interesting to wonder what their take would be on a hypothetical 105/1.2 for Z? Lesson already learned so don’t make it too big, or we already know we can do this and it might not be too big this time.
