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Archive 2023 · Who is buying the a7C II or a7CR?

  
 
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swldstn wrote:
Ok, keep mulling over A7C II vs A7CR and which to get. So let’s ignore video between the two and look at the other differences between them. I may misstep or leave off what one has over the other so feel free to correct me

a7RC advantages;
- 61 MP vs. 33 MP
- 26 MP in APS-C mode
- grip included (but no Arca Swiss support so I’m not sure I would use it)
- pixel shift modes

a7C II advantages
- lower price
- 10 vs 8 frames per second
- 44 vs. 36 frames increased buffer depth
- lower output noise due to larger pixels ?
- larger
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Another difference is that the A7Cii has a low pass filter while the R doesn't. So you will get softer images but less moire with the cheaper camera.



Sep 06, 2023 at 12:23 AM
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p.4 #2 · Who is buying the a7C II or a7CR?


jaygould wrote:
Another difference is that the A7Cii has a low pass filter while the R doesn't. So you will get softer images but less moire with the cheaper camera.


I will have to check that out since a review I watched indicated that neither had a LPF.



Sep 06, 2023 at 03:52 AM
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p.4 #3 · Who is buying the a7C II or a7CR?


swldstn wrote:
I will have to check that out since a review I watched indicated that neither had a LPF.


Seems for the A7IV there is back and forth on the 33 Mpixel sensor having an Anti Aliasing filter or LPF. A lot of the reviews that mention this are relying on what they said about A7 IV. Really don’t know who to believe and who is a good resource. Gowling to reach out to Mark Galer on this.

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Sep 06, 2023 at 04:38 AM
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p.4 #4 · Who is buying the a7C II or a7CR?


I've already sold my A7C to a reseller for a good price. I have the A7CII on order from my favorite dealer.
For me the II version fixes most of the things I did not like about the original: lack of a second, useful dial for concurrent SS and F control, the useless EC dial, embedded raw file previews too small. The additional MP is a nice bonus. I did not mind the EVF on the original, but the II's should be nicer.



Sep 06, 2023 at 07:07 AM
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p.4 #5 · Who is buying the a7C II or a7CR?


I am buying the A7CII, and if I like it I will get the A7CR..... They are small and cute....


Sep 06, 2023 at 07:22 AM
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p.4 #6 · Who is buying the a7C II or a7CR?


mklass wrote:
I've already sold my A7C to a reseller for a good price. I have the A7CII on order from my favorite dealer.
For me the II version fixes most of the things I did not like about the original: lack of a second, useful dial for concurrent SS and F control, the useless EC dial, embedded raw file previews too small. The additional MP is a nice bonus. I did not mind the EVF on the original, but the II's should be nicer.


Sold my A7C as well. Now I'm planning on selling my A7IV as well if I get the A7C II. Plan to keep my A7RV no mater what I do.
Undecided on my recent A6700 purchase. Wondering if that is sufficient for portability. Can't decide if I want to go with the A6700, the A7C II, my original choice, or the higher resolution A7CR. Help me choose. Allhave some advantage.




Sep 06, 2023 at 07:25 AM
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p.4 #7 · Who is buying the a7C II or a7CR?


swldstn wrote:
Seems for the A7IV there is back and forth on the 33 Mpixel sensor having an Anti Aliasing filter or LPF. A lot of the reviews that mention this are relying on what they said about A7 IV. Really don’t know who to believe and who is a good resource. Gowling to reach out to Mark Galer on this.


Ok, I could not find a definitive source to believe if an A7IV does or does not have an anti aliasing filter. Many varying opinions here. Also it appears that Sony is pretty quite on this subject. Based on that I will assume the A7C is using the same technology but doesn’t mean we know what it is. So I won’t use this to disqualify it. Yes, the A7CR is higher resolution but my experience with the my own A7RV and the A7IV says that for a lot of things I don’t need it.



Sep 06, 2023 at 09:35 AM
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p.4 #8 · Who is buying the a7C II or a7CR?


swldstn wrote:
Ok, I could not find a definitive source to believe if an A7IV does or does not have an anti aliasing filter. Many varying opinions here. Also it appears that Sony is pretty quite on this subject. Based on that I will assume the A7C is using the same technology but doesn’t mean we know what it is. So I won’t use this to disqualify it. Yes, the A7CR is higher resolution but my experience with the my own A7RV and the A7IV says that for a lot of things I don’t need it.


But for the times you could use the extra resolution it’s sure nice to have. I find zero negatives with more resolution, but when I want to print very large landscapes or when I need to crop heavily, those pixels make a big difference.



Sep 06, 2023 at 10:45 AM
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p.4 #9 · Who is buying the a7C II or a7CR?


chez wrote:
I find zero negatives with more resolution, .....


The negative people keep bringing up is larger file size, although I'm upgrading my computer and can't believe how inexpensive huge capacity hard drives are.

Also, don't these cameras have options for reduced raw file size?




Sep 06, 2023 at 10:52 AM
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p.4 #10 · Who is buying the a7C II or a7CR?


I have A7RV, so might probably just look for cheaper A7Cii.


Sep 06, 2023 at 01:56 PM
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I was 100% sure to buy the A7C R when SAR announced that it will have the tilt screen from the A7R V. After Sony's official announcement I was 100% sure that I won't buy it Can't get used to the flippy screen. But this is just me ...


Sep 06, 2023 at 02:22 PM
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Jeff Kott wrote:
The negative people keep bringing up is larger file size, although I'm upgrading my computer and can't believe how inexpensive huge capacity hard drives are.

Also, don't these cameras have options for reduced raw file size?



You'll want as fast a card reader and usb connectivity as you can get, too.



Sep 06, 2023 at 02:55 PM
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Craig Gillette wrote:
You'll want as fast a card reader and usb connectivity as you can get, too.


Depending on if you watch your computer as the images are transferred by the card reader or you can do something else like pay some bills online or maybe go have a coffee. I don’t fully understanding this needing the fastest devices all the time.



Sep 06, 2023 at 03:11 PM
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p.4 #14 · Who is buying the a7C II or a7CR?




Woody84 wrote:
I was 100% sure to buy the A7C R when SAR announced that it will have the tilt screen from the A7R V. After Sony's official announcement I was 100% sure that I won't buy it Can't get used to the flippy screen. But this is just me ...


Nope, it's not. 😀



Sep 06, 2023 at 08:16 PM
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p.4 #15 · Who is buying the a7C II or a7CR?


Definitely won’t be at launch due to the pricing, but hoping to get an a7C II eventually.


Sep 07, 2023 at 01:32 AM
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