yukosteel wrote:
Thanks for sharing, Fred! It's extremely useful discovery that B+W 39mm and 43mm filter have same glass. I have few B+W Nano filters with "Clear" coating, and "UV" coating. Knowing the glass diameter is same, now I can switch it into other diameter frame when needed! : )
Love the minimalistic look with 3D printed adapter, great job done! As Gabe13 mentioned - it's hard to say filter is there.
BTW, I personally don't use screw in cap when lens is on camera (to not loose the moment when unscrewing cap), but for extra protection when lens is in jacket pocket it's a nice option. Is cap still usable when filter is attached into hood?...Show more →
Thanks, Yuri. This was my first 3D project, and I appreciate your helpful design tips!
Yes, the small hood cap attaches normally when using the built-in UV filter.
If I had B+W filters or could see how to remove the Marumi glass I'd go for it, but I think I'll stick to just using the Exus Solid protector inbetween the lens and hood. Not as elegant of course but it's still a tiny setup and doesn't add enough vignetting for me to really notice, even with the 18mm which I've also since picked up!
Really grateful that these two pancakes just happened to come out in pretty much the focal lengths I wanted shortly before I finally bought into Fujifilm. I wasn't planning on them when I bought the camera at all but I'm enjoying the manual experience and they feel worth the tradeoff of losing weather resistance vs. the other options I was originally thinking of. I think I'm a Voigtlander fan now.
Mummdad wrote:
Really cool, thanks for posting the details!
If I had B+W filters or could see how to remove the Marumi glass I'd go for it, but I think I'll stick to just using the Exus Solid protector inbetween the lens and hood. Not as elegant of course but it's still a tiny setup and doesn't add enough vignetting for me to really notice, even with the 18mm which I've also since picked up!
Really grateful that these two pancakes just happened to come out in pretty much the focal lengths I wanted shortly before I finally bought into Fujifilm. I wasn't planning on them when I bought the camera at all but I'm enjoying the manual experience and they feel worth the tradeoff of losing weather resistance vs. the other options I was originally thinking of. I think I'm a Voigtlander fan now....Show more →
The B+W filters can be tricky to open to retrieve the glass. Here's how I did it: I used small pieces of "Gorilla Mounting Putty" at four points around the outer area of the filter, placed it face down on a surface, and then rotated the back of the filter frame. After a few tries, the back unscrewed from the front, allowing me to remove the glass. You could use a different filter brand (39mm) with holes for a spanner wrench, but I've only tried this method with the B+W filters.
Fred Miranda wrote:
I'm keeping both because I tend to pick up the Voigtlander whenever shooting in lower light.
Excellent comparison Fred! Would you happen to have any side by side shots of both 27mm lenses to show how the out of focus areas compare, f2 vs f2.8 and also at similar aperture?
Bizzarrini wrote:
Excellent comparison Fred! Would you happen to have any side by side shots of both 27mm lenses to show how the out of focus areas compare, f2 vs f2.8 and also at similar aperture?
Yes I have both lenses. Do you mean pictures of the lens barrel or image comparison from both lenses?
Hi Fred, thanks for the response. I'm interested in pictures made using these lenses to demonstrate the difference between amount of background blur between both lenses at their maximum aperture and to compare the bokeh at the same aperture.
Fred Miranda wrote:
Yes I have both lenses. Do you mean pictures of the lens barrel or image comparison from both lenses?
I will post rendering differences from these two lenses once I am back from a trip.
Bizzarrini wrote:
Hi Fred, thanks for the response. I'm interested in pictures made using these lenses to demonstrate the difference between amount of background blur between both lenses at their maximum aperture and to compare the bokeh at the same aperture.
I usually prefer manual lenses with focus tabs like the Voigtlander 28mm f2 Ultron II (Leica M mount). How does the focus handling compare to this 27mm f2 fuji x mount compare to the 28mm f2 ultron leica M mount? I know the 28mm is bigger especially with Leica M to Fuji X adapter but I prefer the feel and handling over size in this situation. It's still relatively compact even with an adapter.
okmarzo wrote:
I usually prefer manual lenses with focus tabs like the Voigtlander 28mm f2 Ultron II (Leica M mount). How does the focus handling compare to this 27mm f2 fuji x mount compare to the 28mm f2 ultron leica M mount? I know the 28mm is bigger especially with Leica M to Fuji X adapter but I prefer the feel and handling over size in this situation. It's still relatively compact even with an adapter.
From a handling perspective, I preferred the 28mm Ultron. More stable with the larger focus tab. Not sure I'd prefer to use the Leica version adapted though - it's significantly bigger adapted.
Guys, im seriously considering to buy this Voigtlander 27/2 Ultron lens, but after some research I've found disturbing reports about bug in lens firmware (or camera firmware), where lens aperture settings has wrong info recorded to exif data.
Lady in this video explained it in more details:
Does anybody can confirm is still the case?
I'm using X-H2 with newest firmware.
Thanks in advance!
BeatX wrote:
Sure, so I'm waiting for Your report 👍
I watched the video, and her two concerns are valid:
1. The focus throw is around 100 degrees, but since the lens focuses down to 0.25m, the throw angle for mid-to-long distances is reduced. As she correctly described, focusing from 3m to infinity requires great precision due to the very short throw. That said, I’ve never had issues with focus accuracy when using the lens, even for street photography.
2. The f/22 bug is real, at least on the X-T5. I took several shots at f/2, and while some were recorded correctly at f/2, others showed f/22 in Lightroom. This isn’t a post-processing software issue, as it occurs in both Lightroom and Capture One. It doesn’t appear to be a lens problem either, since the camera displays f/2 when taking the photo but shows f/22 when reviewing the image. It’s likely an X-T5 firmware issue.
BTW, This didn't happen with the other cameras I tested this lens with: X-Pro3, X-E4 and X-T30.
Fred Miranda wrote:
I watched the video, and her two concerns are valid:
1. The focus throw is around 100 degrees, but since the lens focuses down to 0.25m, the throw angle for mid-to-long distances is reduced. As she correctly described, focusing from 3m to infinity requires great precision due to the very short throw. That said, I’ve never had issues with focus accuracy when using the lens, even for street photography.
2. The f/22 bug is real, at least on the X-T5. I took several shots at f/2, and while some were recorded correctly at f/2, others showed f/22 in Lightroom. This isn’t a post-processing software issue, as it occurs in both Lightroom and Capture One. It doesn’t appear to be a lens problem either, since the camera displays f/2 when taking the photo but shows f/22 when reviewing the image. It’s likely an X-T5 firmware issue.
BTW, This didn't happen with the other cameras I tested this lens with: X-Pro3, X-E4 and X-T30....Show more →
Ok, much appreciated Fred.
Like I thought.. problem lays on Fujifilm side (firmware)
That's a pity as I'm rally have my eyes on this lens - it has perfect FL for me, and enough DOF for mu use, and its TINY!
I'm very used to 23/1.4 lenses, and this CV 27/2 should have similar DOF as 23/1.4
I do have XF 35/1.4 which has just ideal rendering (for me at least), but.. I just dont feel this FL for standard lens.
Voigtlander 27/2 seems ideal for my use as an everyday/standard lens, but this damn bug..
I wonder if this bug exist in X-H2.. Seem like I would have to rent this lens and test it with my camera.
BeatX wrote:
Ok, much appreciated Fred.
Like I thought.. problem lays on Fujifilm side (firmware)
That's a pity as I'm rally have my eyes on this lens - it has perfect FL for me, and enough DOF for mu use, and its TINY!
I'm very used to 23/1.4 lenses, and this CV 27/2 should have similar DOF as 23/1.4
I do have XF 35/1.4 which has just ideal rendering (for me at least), but.. I just dont feel this FL for standard lens.
Voigtlander 27/2 seems ideal for my use as an everyday/standard lens, but this damn bug..
I wonder if this bug exist in X-H2.. Seem like I would have to rent this lens and test it with my camera. ...Show more →
A short manual focus throw on a manual focus only lens and and wrong exif data that only occurs with that lens doesn't seem like an issue with the body to me.
SGinNorcal wrote:
A short manual focus throw on a manual focus only lens and and wrong exif data that only occurs with that lens doesn't seem like an issue with the body to me.
The short manual focus throw (from 3m to infinity) is a mechanical 'feature' and not related to software. The EXIF data issue occurs when writing information to the image on the card but does not affect exposure. It is unclear whether the lens or the camera software is causing the problem.
All sample images in this review were taken with an X-Pro3, mostly wide open. The EXIF data for these images consistently shows "F2" and never "F22." However, the same lens shows this issue on my X-T5.
I can also confirm that the f22 bug also exists on the XT-50. Not on all photos, but in the 4 photos I looked at shot at f2, 2 of them showed f22. 50% of my very small sample!
Thanks for pointing this out - tbh I hadn't noticed until deciding to look for it after reading this thread.
While on the subject of quirks for this lens, has anyone else noticed the the blue depth of field bar on the MF distance scale sometimes randomly scrolls from infinity towards the nearer distances? Very odd.
All these things said, I love this lens and also have the CV 18/2.8 and 23/1.2. These other CV lenses do not display these issues at all, only the CV 27/2.
Also worth noting, my son's XT-30 has none of the CV27/2 issue above. I only see them on the XT-50, so I would agree with the above comments - this is a camera issue, not a lens issue.
