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Z8 with Lexar LCFX10-64GCRBNA Cfexpress Card

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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Z8 with Lexar LCFX10-64GCRBNA Cfexpress Card

Untill today, I used my camera with SD card only, no issues at all.
I installed first time CFx card into my camera today, this card was previously used in my z7II with no issues.
I freshly formated it, and I played little bit with 24-200mm for the first time.
After about 20 shots, camera showed an error with that card.
I pulled it out, and I felt it was pretty warm.
I put it back, still didn't work.
After few times in and out, it started to work again.
I tried to create problem again, and I couldn't, even with taking some video shoots.
I'm going on vacation tomorrow, and this makes me worried, if I should use that slot at all.
Anyone else had similar issues?

Jun 05, 2023 at 07:31 PM

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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Z8 with Lexar LCFX10-64GCRBNA Cfexpress Card

Use a different card. This one might have heat issues - specific * on the list of supported Z8 cards: 'Recording at high temperatures may end before maximum length or size is reached, even if camera temperature does not rise'.

https://www.nikonimgsupport.com/na/NSG_article?articleNo=000044624&configured=1&lang=en_SG&sfdcIFrameOrigin=null

Not sure why the link is prompting for login - just google 'approved memory cards for Nikon z'.

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Jun 05, 2023 at 07:41 PM

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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Z8 with Lexar LCFX10-64GCRBNA Cfexpress Card

Don't cheap out with the Z8. Get a Delkin Black and be done with it, just like we've always said regarding the Z9

This is not a Z7ii. This is like going from a Pinto to a Ferrari. Different gas is needed!

Jun 05, 2023 at 07:41 PM

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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Z8 with Lexar LCFX10-64GCRBNA Cfexpress Card

I'll be using it mostly for landscapes in slow pace, that's why I didn't rush to go for new card, especially it worked well.
So, that must be it, thanks for replys!

Jun 05, 2023 at 07:45 PM

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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Z8 with Lexar LCFX10-64GCRBNA Cfexpress Card

Tbh after Lexar got acquired by Longsys in 2017 I steered clear from that brand.

Jun 05, 2023 at 07:47 PM

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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Z8 with Lexar LCFX10-64GCRBNA Cfexpress Card

lukemeup wrote:
Tbh after Lexar got acquired by Longsys in 2017 I steered clear from that brand.
I had issues with Lexar SD cards in Fuji xt3, but they were not listed by Fuji.
So, I ended up buying SanDisk 300speed cards, and they worked like charm.
I wouldn't buy this CFx card, with that kind of experience, if it's not listed for
z7II by Nikon.
Then I checked Z8, and it's on that list too.
I'll get better card, what else..

Jun 05, 2023 at 07:57 PM

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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Z8 with Lexar LCFX10-64GCRBNA Cfexpress Card

I have a couple of Lexar 128GB CFE cards, the gold 1750 mb/s one. They work ok on my Z7 ii, Z9 and Z8 and no overheating issue during normal shooting yet but it certainly runs hotter than the rest of CFE cards that I own.

Jun 05, 2023 at 08:08 PM

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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Z8 with Lexar LCFX10-64GCRBNA Cfexpress Card

Can I make a suggestion? When referring to certain cards running "hot" there are a few info things that should be added for usage state:
- camera body
- image format
- frame rate settings and your use scenario
- still shooting or video mode
- did you get the hot card alert

CFx cards do run "warm" normally due to throughput. There does seem to be a wide varience across the spectrum of brands including those even on the "approved" list. This just helps those who are making decisions on what to go with.

addendum: when looking into cards for high performance use products one of the most important "specs"- Minimum Sustained Write Speed should be "found" in said data. finding it can be the challenge and is generally a red flag if its not for use with these cameras as they have a less then consistent throughput and throttle when trying to pump large files at rates for continuous use and temp rise.

ref examples:
Delkin Black
75GB – 650GB
1725 MB/s Max Read
1240 – 1530 MB/s Min Sustained Write*

Delkin New Power G4
Max Transfer Speed: Up to 1780 MB/s
Max Write Speed: Up to 1700 MB/s

Sustained Write Speeds*
128GB – 512GB: 805 MB/s
650GB – 2TB: 1490 MB/s

*note the differences in the throughput speeds and spreads

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Jun 06, 2023 at 03:57 AM

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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Z8 with Lexar LCFX10-64GCRBNA Cfexpress Card

FWIW this is the most up to date graph at the SSD review site showing temps of different CFExpress cards:

As you can see, the older Lexar are the hottest running cards out there. The newer Pro Diamond ones are better. Even this latest 2TB Lexar Gold they tested is much better than the lower capacity Lexar Golds.

Also interesting to note that it can vary significantly between size of card in the same line. Compare Delkin Power 128GB (2nd best) to the 256GB which is running 11C hotter.

Jun 06, 2023 at 08:51 AM

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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Z8 with Lexar LCFX10-64GCRBNA Cfexpress Card

arbitrage wrote:
FWIW this is the most up to date graph at the SSD review site showing temps of different CFExpress cards:

As you can see, the older Lexar are the hottest running cards out there. The newer Pro Diamond ones are better. Even this latest 2TB Lexar Gold they tested is much better than the lower capacity Lexar Golds.

Also interesting to note that it can vary significantly between size of card in the same line. Compare Delkin Power 128GB (2nd best) to the 256GB which is running 11C hotter.

Thanks for posting this. So much for my liking the SanDisk Extreme. I wonder how the Sony cards fare in the tests. Sony is one of the cards recommended and tested by Nikon for the Z8, but then again, so is the Sandisk. At least our hands would be warm in cold weather.

I spoke with Nikon yesterday and they were very matter of fact that they do not recommend the Delkin Black, which has been my favorite.

https://www.nikonproductsupport.com/s/article/Z-8-Supported-Memory-Cards?language=en_US

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Jun 06, 2023 at 05:09 PM

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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Z8 with Lexar LCFX10-64GCRBNA Cfexpress Card

In January, I will be shooting in -20C for a week. Looks like Lexar Gold will be perfect for the condition

Jun 06, 2023 at 05:33 PM

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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Z8 with Lexar LCFX10-64GCRBNA Cfexpress Card

suteetat wrote:
In January, I will be shooting in -20C for a week. Looks like Lexar Gold will be perfect for the condition

Just bring some ear muffs and you'll be all set.

Jun 06, 2023 at 05:34 PM

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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Z8 with Lexar LCFX10-64GCRBNA Cfexpress Card

Nikon talking out of their ass. Tested as the coolest running card of all of them.

Jonathan wrote:
Thanks for posting this. So much for my liking the SanDisk Extreme. I wonder how the Sony cards fare in the tests. Sony is one of the cards recommended and tested by Nikon for the Z8, but then again, so is the Sandisk. At least our hands would be warm in cold weather.

I spoke with Nikon yesterday and they were very matter of fact that they do not recommend the Delkin Black, which has been my favorite.

Jun 06, 2023 at 05:36 PM

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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Z8 with Lexar LCFX10-64GCRBNA Cfexpress Card

RoamingScott wrote:
Nikon talking out of their ass. Tested as the coolest running card of all of them.

They have their favorites as always. I still think the Delkin black is my favorite, followed by the Cobalt probably.

If they have never tested it, why would they discourage it. It makes Stevie Wonder.

No surprise.

Jun 06, 2023 at 05:43 PM

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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Z8 with Lexar LCFX10-64GCRBNA Cfexpress Card

i see your choice of wording has lowered.

Jun 08, 2023 at 07:32 AM

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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Z8 with Lexar LCFX10-64GCRBNA Cfexpress Card

sjms wrote:
i see your choice of wording has lowered.

Whose? Lowered?

Jun 08, 2023 at 07:37 AM

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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Z8 with Lexar LCFX10-64GCRBNA Cfexpress Card

Jonathan wrote:
Whose? Lowered?

Nikon talking out of their ass.

some people can't control themselves

Jun 08, 2023 at 11:55 AM

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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Z8 with Lexar LCFX10-64GCRBNA Cfexpress Card

Delkin Black has been demonstrated by many to have essentially unlimited buffering capacity on the Z9.

Nikon sells their own branded CFexpress cards, so of course they don’t recommend the best card out there 🤪

Jun 08, 2023 at 12:06 PM

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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · Z8 with Lexar LCFX10-64GCRBNA Cfexpress Card

yes they are capable under certain use conditions.

i use the DB cards (4 150GB). "Essentially unlimited buffering capacity" is a true statement when used in HE* (which i use 90% of the time) combined with at 20fps (much less used/needed). using Lossless compressed it will put clean output into the mid-high 80's shot count before it starts to skip and sputter at 20fps. on my card size HE* is ~ 4.1K shots and ~8.2K in overflow. that is much more than i need for average work-related shooting. HE* maintains a 14bit depth.

yes, Nikon does market a single model CFx card with their name on it. pretty much irrelevant but shows support for the product. there's always room for the fanatic purchase.

Jun 08, 2023 at 12:47 PM

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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · Z8 with Lexar LCFX10-64GCRBNA Cfexpress Card

Is this a good card for Z8? Looks too good to be true. Amazon sells same card (slightly different manufacturer name) for 400. This costs only 140 for 256gb card

Amazon name = SDCFE-256G-GN4IN
B&H name = SDCFE-256G-ANCNN

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1551702-REG/sandisk_sdcfe_256g_ancnn_256gb_extreme_pro_cfexpress.html

Also how about cheap Prograde card like this one
https://www.amazon.com/ProGrade-Digital-256GB-CFexpress-Memory/dp/B0863981FZ/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=3JDGGRFKW0TOT&keywords=prograde+cf+express&qid=1699389476&sprefix=prograde+cf%2Caps%2C106&sr=8-1-spons&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.18ed3cb5-28d5-4975-8bc7-93deae8f9840&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&psc=1

Thank you

Nov 07, 2023 at 03:38 PM

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