The new ULTRON 27mm F2 X Mount is now listed at Cosina's website.
Main Features:
- Designed exclusively for FUJIFILM X mount, optimized for FUJIFILM X system cameras, reducing distortion, light reduction, and color casts.
- Electronic contacts enable reliable communication with the camera body, supporting features like Exif information, focus check, shooting distance-linked display, in-body image stabilization, and parallax correction.
- Manual focus with high precision and smooth operation, thanks to all-metal helicoid unit and quality lubricants.
- 10-blade aperture for beautiful bokeh effect, rendering out-of-focus areas naturally and creating a soft, rounded bokeh. Additionally, the lens has a directly operated mechanical aperture ring and a focus ring with a lever for easy control and approximate focus point determination.
The lens is scheduled for release in June, but the price in the US has not been announced. In Japan, the official price is 73,000 yen (excluding tax), so the estimated street prices will likely be around 60,000 to 70,000 yen (including tax).
Looking forward to the Fuj 27 2.8 v2 vs the CV 28 2.0 comparison test.
I really liked that Fuji lens - tiny, the manual aperture dial was delicious to use, and it had AF. It was weather resistant (not sure if the CV is) and looks to be about $100 cheaper than the CV.
On paper the CV loses the AF, but has f2. Let's see how the optics pan out. May the battle begin!
Desmolicious wrote:
Looking forward to the Fuj 27 2.8 v2 vs the CV 28 2.0 comparison test.
I really liked that Fuji lens - tiny, the manual aperture dial was delicious to use, and it had AF. It was weather resistant (not sure if the CV is) and looks to be about $100 cheaper than the CV.
On paper the CV loses the AF, but has f2. Let's see how the optics pan out. May the battle begin!
It sounds like this lens is going to be significantly more expensive than the Fujifilm 27mm f/2.8. (My rough conversion would have it at about $540.) The Fujifilm is about $400.
I imagine that there are some people who want f/2 enough to give up AF and spend almost $150 more in order to get about he same small size. If the Fujifilm 27mm f/2.8 wasn't already optically good, the promise of some optical advantage might appeal, but I wonder how much better the results will be from manually focusing this lens...
gdanmitchell wrote:
It sounds like this lens is going to be significantly more expensive than the Fujifilm 27mm f/2.8. (My rough conversion would have it at about $540.) The Fujifilm is about $400.
I imagine that there are some people who want f/2 enough to give up AF and spend almost $150 more in order to get about he same small size. If the Fujifilm 27mm f/2.8 wasn't already optically good, the promise of some optical advantage might appeal, but I wonder how much better the results will be from manually focusing this lens...
You can also manually focus the Fuji lens (as of course u know). And it is a WR lens. But it is good to have options.
I like seeing all the new third party options and Voightlanders retro design matches well with Fujifilm. I notice it's a 10 blade aperture I wonder if we will get any X mount lenses that easily create nice sunstars at relatively large apertures. That would certainly bring a benefit to people who like sunstars a lot.
The Fuji lens has several advantages: it is a weather sealed AF lens, cheaper, and lighter. However, the new Voigtlander lens offers a closer focusing distance (0.25m vs. 0.34m) and has 10 "straight" aperture blades compared to 7, resulting in more defined sunstars. The difference in maximum aperture (f/2.8 vs. f/2) is significant, especially for this focal length. Additionally, based on the released angle of view from both companies, the Fuji lens has an equivalent focal length of 43mm, while the Voigtlander lens has an equivalent focal length of 45mm.
gdanmitchell wrote:
It sounds like this lens is going to be significantly more expensive than the Fujifilm 27mm f/2.8. (My rough conversion would have it at about $540.) The Fujifilm is about $400.
I imagine that there are some people who want f/2 enough to give up AF and spend almost $150 more in order to get about he same small size. If the Fujifilm 27mm f/2.8 wasn't already optically good, the promise of some optical advantage might appeal, but I wonder how much better the results will be from manually focusing this lens...
I have the XF27 and it doesn't excite me much tbh. Very bland IMO. I've been using my 23 and 35 Nokton more and more on my XP3 and really loving them. I still adapt some of my Leica 50mm lenses since that is a missing FL in the Voigtlander lineup. The new 27 on the XE4 will be a sweet street or small carry set up.
Bokeh has a distinct bubbly appearnce on OOF point light sources, which I am not a big fan of, but they look clean through the center which makes it a lot more acceptable.
I like the diffraction stars already at f/5.6.
Not sure if it's the image compression, but high frequency details and texture are soft. Not necessarily bad, since it gives the images a smooth look.
I don't see noticeable color fringing which is good, but these are not optimal test images.
I am not a big fan of the 27mm Fujinon for some reason, but I am interested in trying this one out. It is thoroughly a modern remake of a vintage lens with a refined, but still visible optical character, as I would expect with C/V.
Deuxieme wrote:
Bokeh has a distinct bubbly appearnce on OOF point light sources, which I am not a big fan of, but they look clean through the center which makes it a lot more acceptable.
I like the diffraction stars already at f/5.6.
Not sure if it's the image compression, but high frequency details and texture are soft. Not necessarily bad, since it gives the images a smooth look.
I don't see noticeable color fringing which is good, but these are not optimal test images.
I am not a big fan of the 27mm Fujinon for some reason, but I am interested in trying this one out. It is thoroughly a modern remake of a vintage lens with a refined, but still visible optical character, as I would expect with C/V....Show more →
Specular highlights do show subtle outlining, which is a matter of personal preference. Some prefer a smoother rendering without outlining, while others appreciate the added character and embrace the outlining. The bokeh shape in the sample images remain rounded towards the edges, rather than a strong cats-eye bokeh with excessive swirling, which aligns with my preference. Overall, I am happy with what I have seen so far.
pete478888 wrote:
Looks like a nice lens, with nice sun stars.
But Fuji's 27/2.8 is an excellent lens. Mine is tack sharp corner to corner at F5.6. Great for hiking and landscapes.
A small excellent 17mm with good sun stars might have attracted more customers.
If it follows the pattern of other Voigtlander lenses with a similar aperture mechanism, it should produce defined 10-point sunstars starting at f/2.8. I'm not sure how the Fuji XF 27 behaves in this aspect but in experience with other Fuji XF primes, achieving well-defined sunstars usually requires using f/8 or f/11.
The newest line of LM WR primes, 18mm, 23mm, 33mm start to get nicely crisp diffraction stars with straight arms at f/5.6. They have 18 points from the 9 bladed aperture, which is less novel in quality, but still nice.
Other Fujinon lenses don't seem to have this as a priority in design, and tend to need f/11 to f/16 for them to be sizable enough, and are usually soft with arms that expand outwards.
The Fujinon 27mm f/2.8 WR has this aspect. It is a pretty excellent lens in many respects, but I somehow find it hard to get the look I want with it.
Some of it is that at either extremes of the aperture range, there is not much shallow DoF, and little in the way of diffraction stars. Some is the grinding noise which disturbs my concentration and subjects. Some of it is down to the focal length, which I find slightly awkward. The small size changes the shooting experience in a nice way, but the tradeoffs never gave me any enthusiasm for the lens.
Personal gripes for sure, but has left me looking for other options should they present themselves.
As someone who tried the Fujinon 27mm and wasn’t able to connect with it, I’m excited by this lens.
If the optical performance is good and easy to use with focus peaking it might be on my future, can’t wait for the first reviews.
Nowadays I’m using a TTartisan 27mm f2.8, it is actually good, finally a Chinese lens without crazy field curvature. Somehow I’m liking it more than the Fujinon 27mm (maybe the low price helps with this), but still would like an extra stop for low-light and a bit of subject separation.
Might sell the Fujinon XC 35mm f2 and the TTartisans 27mm f2.8 to get this Voigtlander.
Sr.Cordeiro wrote:
As someone who tried the Fujinon 27mm and wasn’t able to connect with it, I’m excited by this lens.
If the optical performance is good and easy to use with focus peaking it might be on my future, can’t wait for the first reviews.
Nowadays I’m using a TTartisan 27mm f2.8, it is actually good, finally a Chinese lens without crazy field curvature. Somehow I’m liking it more than the Fujinon 27mm (maybe the low price helps with this), but still would like an extra stop for low-light and a bit of subject separation.
Might sell the Fujinon XC 35mm f2 and the TTartisans 27mm f2.8 to get this Voigtlander....Show more →
The extreme swirling effect of the TTartisan 27mm f2.8 was not to my liking, but this is subjective as many people specifically seek lenses that produce this effect.
I also never quite got over the hump with the Fujinon. Looking forward to this one.
The Fuji definitely has a lot going for it on paper. And being a modern WR and autofocusing lens, I’m sure its sales are not threatened by this release. The Fuji produces fine and sharp images, they just never had any magic to them. Hopefully this CV delivers some more interesting rendering characteristics.
