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p.1 #1 · Image Backup in the Field Without a Computer


I do not know a way to back up images in the field without a laptop or WiFi - I'll be in the mountains of the Cordillera Huayhuash without either for two weeks. Any suggestions? Thx!

If it makes a difference I'll be using a A7RV.



Apr 16, 2023 at 07:47 PM
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p.1 #2 · Image Backup in the Field Without a Computer


Via USB to an iPhone with the camera connection kit?


Apr 16, 2023 at 07:52 PM
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p.1 #3 · Image Backup in the Field Without a Computer


Tarekith wrote:
Via USB to an iPhone with the camera connection kit?


I'm an Android user, and the 128 Gb of my Pixel won't cut the mustard.




Apr 16, 2023 at 07:58 PM
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I have an older RAVPower version of this...

https://www.amazon.com/NewQ-Filehub-AC750-Travel-Router/dp/B09T9QKQH7/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3UYYIY8W3QWXO&keywords=filehub&qid=1681694276&sprefix=filehub%2Caps%2C86&sr=8-3&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.006c50ae-5d4c-4777-9bc0-4513d670b6bc

The biggest downfall is that it is very very slow. But it works. You hook up a larger SSD to it and it has a built in SD card reader. I've used it a couple of times.

Double check that there is a working Android app for it.

Hesitant to recommend it, but it did seem to work, albeit slow.




Apr 16, 2023 at 08:21 PM
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This also looks like it *might* be workable...

https://www.amazon.com/SSK-Personal-External-Wireless-Auto-Backup/dp/B081CD34DP/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1FNE86CSTBCBC&keywords=sd%2Bcard%2Bbackup&qid=1681694694&sprefix=sd%2Bcard%2Bbackup%2Caps%2C69&sr=8-4&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.006c50ae-5d4c-4777-9bc0-4513d670b6bc&th=1



Apr 16, 2023 at 08:25 PM
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p.1 #6 · Image Backup in the Field Without a Computer


I just got back from a month long trip and used this:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09T9QKQH7/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It worked well, but next time, I might used mirrored image recording instead, and just take more cards. I like to travel with a single backpack, so less is better. I'm certainly leaving the GoPro behind next time.



Apr 16, 2023 at 09:13 PM
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jay w wrote:
I just got back from a month long trip and used this:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09T9QKQH7/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It worked well, but next time, I might used mirrored image recording instead, and just take more cards. I like to travel with a single backpack, so less is better. I'm certainly leaving the GoPro behind next time.



This may work well - mirror the cards, remove one each day and keep in a separate location as the daily backup. I have bunches of smaller cards perfect for the job and there is no additional hardware/software/interfaces to fiddle with.



Apr 16, 2023 at 10:00 PM
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p.1 #8 · Image Backup in the Field Without a Computer


You can copy images from a memory card in a slot that is selected using [Select Playback Media] to a memory card in another slot.

https://helpguide.sony.net/ilc/2230/v1/en/contents/TP0002919995.html



Apr 16, 2023 at 10:26 PM
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Have you considered just writing simultaneously to two really large cards and skipping the idea of any kind of external backup?

Sandisk Extreme Pro 1TB SDXC cards are on sale for $165 at B&H right now. I think that would be the simplest and most cost effective solution to making sure you always have backups.

I took an ultralight laptop on my last long-term adventure away from home and often away from reliable power, and it simply was not worth the weight, bulk, or worry for how little I used it. A pair of 256GB and a pair of 128GB cards was enough for me and my A7RIII.



Apr 16, 2023 at 10:39 PM
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I found the B&H page for the UHS-II Extreme Pros was a bit flakey. It seemed to jump around on selections between size and v rating. But 1 TB cards are in the $600 range.


Apr 16, 2023 at 10:54 PM
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Craig Gillette wrote:
I found the B&H page for the UHS-II Extreme Pros was a bit flakey. It seemed to jump around on selections between size and v rating. But 1 TB cards are in the $600 range.


The one I had looked up was UHS-I, but apparently it must have been some sort of limited-time sale, because now just an hour later it's back up to $300



Apr 16, 2023 at 11:17 PM
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williamw wrote:
You can copy images from a memory card in a slot that is selected using [Select Playback Media] to a memory card in another slot.

https://helpguide.sony.net/ilc/2230/v1/en/contents/TP0002919995.html



MENU → (Playback) → [Edit] → [Copy].
All of the contents with a date or in a folder currently being played back will be copied to a memory card in another slot.

Thanks for posting! most are aware they can auto transfer overflow from card one to card 2, but I've not used this COPY command before and probably would never have investigated if not for your post.

I think I can use this feature for various scenarios. I just need to do a few tests as I am curious about COPY speed and if I can use CFE Type A card COPY to SD card and vis versa.



Apr 17, 2023 at 09:59 AM
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I used and enjoyed some of the early backup devices (~2000's). For whatever reasons, they have never been mainstream and recent market attempts have also floundered. Gnarbox went belly-up. Nexto seems to still be available(-ish) but I have no clue what long term support looks like.

Looking at the amount of cables and power adapters necessary, the Ravpower ("filehub") style devices combined with external drive enclosures never appealed to me. Plus, Ravpower got busted by amazon for review fraud and banished. They have since "rebranded" to keep selling under different names.

In the end, I've found using small laptops is the least worst solution. Plus you can do basic culling/editing too.



Apr 17, 2023 at 10:56 AM
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At least app for the "new" rebranded version of the Filehub seems to work with the RAVPower version I have on iOS 16. (The RAVPower version wouldn't run on iOS 16.)

To me the biggest drawback with that solution is the speed of backing up the card. I wonder if they improved that on the "new" version.

But given patience, it may be a workable solution, even if they didn't.

jeffbuzz wrote:
I used and enjoyed some of the early backup devices (~2000's). For whatever reasons, they have never been mainstream and recent market attempts have also floundered. Gnarbox went belly-up. Nexto seems to still be available(-ish) but I have no clue what long term support looks like.

Looking at the amount of cables and power adapters necessary, the Ravpower ("filehub") style devices combined with external drive enclosures never appealed to me. Plus, Ravpower got busted by amazon for review fraud and banished. They have since "rebranded" to keep selling under different names.

In the end, I've found using small laptops is the least
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Apr 17, 2023 at 11:04 AM
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p.1 #15 · Image Backup in the Field Without a Computer


I had a thread on here recently regarding the iPad Pro. Obviously not an option for you but if you read it (use the search function) it may give you some ideas regarding an Android equivalent. Worked brilliantly for my 3 weeks in Guizhou (you'll obviously need powerbanks too).
I've looked at that hike - gorgeous, it's on The List for a solo hike. If you are with a group then they should have power in the camps for you to recharge the powerbanks.



Apr 17, 2023 at 11:29 AM
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I looked into this and decided on just using memory cards, I would set slot 1 to raw and slot 2 to Jpeg, when you do the sums it’s surprising how few cards you need for 3 weeks of photography,
If I put everything on 1 device then I have single point of failure
No extra batteries or chargers,
I also buy 128gb max to limit the point of failure, and they normally work out cheaper than the high capacity cards per gb,

Have a look at some past holidays folders and do a count then translate this to the RV, and see if it’s feasible for you



Apr 17, 2023 at 04:16 PM
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p.1 #17 · Image Backup in the Field Without a Computer


Thanks everyone for the suggestions.

Since my goal is to provide daily backup in a location away from the camera (to limit potential loss if camera is somehow disabled/lost or one card is corrupted) I'll use the mirror function for Slot 2, replace the Slot 2 cards daily and store them in my luggage. This should provide the security I'm looking for.



Apr 17, 2023 at 05:26 PM
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p.1 #18 · Image Backup in the Field Without a Computer


Thanks for sharing the tip about copying from one card to another internally, that's a great function I did not know about.


Apr 17, 2023 at 07:02 PM
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p.1 #19 · Image Backup in the Field Without a Computer


BenjaminSmith wrote:
Thanks everyone for the suggestions.

Since my goal is to provide daily backup in a location away from the camera (to limit potential loss if camera is somehow disabled/lost or one card is corrupted) I'll use the mirror function for Slot 2, replace the Slot 2 cards daily and store them in my luggage. This should provide the security I'm looking for.


If you’re going to use only card/day you don’t need any large capacity cards for Slot 2.

What size cards are you going to get for Slot 2??




Apr 17, 2023 at 07:37 PM
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Donzo98 wrote:
If you’re going to use only card/day you don’t need any large capacity cards for Slot 2.

What size cards are you going to get for Slot 2??



probably 32 Gb - seems to be as cheap as SD cards get - a Sandisk 10 pack for $73.



Apr 17, 2023 at 09:01 PM
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