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p.1 #1 · A1 direct connect via USB to iPad Pro (12.9" M2)?


Anyone using a newer iPad Pro connected (tethered via USB-C) to something like an A1? Interested to hear what apps are being used on the iPad and the experience of shooting RAW only for this workflow? Read some things that indicate C1 is being used a lot but also that Sony's IEM has made enough improvement to be competitive. All the reviews for IEM on YT are old and point out the limitations whereas the C1 review seem to be up to date.

My open questions are: speed of image transfer, options for image transfer, overall performance of editing on something like the M2 iPad, ability to still use the EVF to shoot (had read that was a limitation).



Mar 30, 2023 at 08:39 PM
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p.1 #2 · A1 direct connect via USB to iPad Pro (12.9" M2)?


Two points:
1 I use an on the go cable USB C, and a camera lead to pull pictures off the camera.

2 Both my main cameras will link to Apps meaning I can now just move pictures as well as take them with the phone. Look at updates for your camera and there are now instructions for the app to use. I guess sony includes apple.



Mar 31, 2023 at 09:26 AM
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Slalom wrote:
Two points:
1 I use an on the go cable USB C, and a camera lead to pull pictures off the camera.

2 Both my main cameras will link to Apps meaning I can now just move pictures as well as take them with the phone. Look at updates for your camera and there are now instructions for the app to use. I guess sony includes apple.


Are you tethered while shooting and able to review images in near real time?



Mar 31, 2023 at 01:27 PM
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p.1 #4 · A1 direct connect via USB to iPad Pro (12.9" M2)?


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the speed limit might be the card in this case, maybe if you feed only to the ipad it might be faster since the USBC have higher bandwidth, depending on how Sony delivers the images to the USB

they also said to be working on live-tethering



Mar 31, 2023 at 03:12 PM
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p.1 #5 · A1 direct connect via USB to iPad Pro (12.9" M2)?


Not tethered, wifi from the camera and the app can take pictures or upload files.


Mar 31, 2023 at 04:56 PM
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p.1 #6 · A1 direct connect via USB to iPad Pro (12.9" M2)?


Old school here. I use an SD card reader and move the files to my iPad Pro via Lightroom mobile.


Mar 31, 2023 at 06:20 PM
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p.1 #7 · A1 direct connect via USB to iPad Pro (12.9" M2)?


knshshnk wrote:

?t=410

the speed limit might be the card in this case, maybe if you feed only to the ipad it might be faster since the USBC have higher bandwidth, depending on how Sony delivers the images to the USB

they also said to be working on live-tethering


That was actually one of the videos I watched. Live tethering with the ability to show the images to a larger group is the goal here



Mar 31, 2023 at 11:17 PM
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rji2goleez wrote:
Old school here. I use an SD card reader and move the files to my iPad Pro via Lightroom mobile.


That's probably the most proven way to do it. My use case is to be able to show off the images to some non-photographers in a vehicle while shooting in real time



Mar 31, 2023 at 11:19 PM
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p.1 #9 · A1 direct connect via USB to iPad Pro (12.9" M2)?


Looks like Cascable is a exactly what I am looking for. I have watched 3 videos on it and I'd say this matches my use case exactly.



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Apr 02, 2023 at 04:09 PM
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149113 wrote:
That's probably the most proven way to do it. My use case is to be able to show off the images to some non-photographers in a vehicle while shooting in real time


For this scenario you can also use Sony's Imaging Edge Mobile App, Remote Shooting feature to live tether via wireless from the Sony A1 to the iPad.

With my M1 iPad Pro takes about 10 seconds for each large RAW file to transfer to the iPad wirelessly. As you continue to shoot with the camera--the viewers can review the image gallery and review additional images as they come in. Each image can be viewed in full screen mode or multiple images in the gallery mode and the viewers can flick through the gallery or to each image individually and back and forth.

The non photographer viewers can also take a picture with the remote app on the iPad haha. So you should inform them to stay in the image gallery and not use the remote camera app. *The picture gallery appears when you tap the green "play" button on the right side of the Remote Shooting app menu.



Apr 02, 2023 at 05:36 PM
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LBJ2 wrote:
For this scenario you can also use Sony's Imaging Edge Mobile App, Remote Shooting feature to live tether via wireless from the Sony A1 to the iPad.

With my M1 iPad Pro takes about 10 seconds for each large RAW file to transfer to the iPad wirelessly. As you continue to shoot with the camera--the viewers can review the image gallery and review additional images as they come in. Each image can be viewed in full screen mode or multiple images in the gallery mode and the viewers can flick through the gallery or to each image individually and back
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Thanks. I did some testing with the wireless with IEM and it just wasn't reliable enough. Connection would drop. Sometimes images would come over in 10 seconds and sometime never. The app had to be restarted several times as well. Power saving features seemed to cause issues too.

I cannot understand why Sony doesn't put out a free app that lets us tether via USB-C to an iPad. This is by far the fastest, most reliable way to do what I need. Being connected with the cable in my use case is not an issue at all. We'll be in a fixed position photographing and distance from the iPad to the camera will never be more than 10'.



Apr 02, 2023 at 06:38 PM
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149113 wrote:
Thanks. I did some testing with the wireless with IEM and it just wasn't reliable enough. Connection would drop. Sometimes images would come over in 10 seconds and sometime never. The app had to be restarted several times as well. Power saving features seemed to cause issues too.

I cannot understand why Sony doesn't put out a free app that lets us tether via USB-C to an iPad. This is by far the fastest, most reliable way to do what I need. Being connected with the cable in my use case is not an issue at all. We'll be in a
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Just in case...and I know you want to use an iPad, and the mobile app, but If a laptop is available, you can use a cable connection between the laptop and Sony A1 with the Imaging Edge Desktop app Remote feature. Faster transfer speed for sure. I haven't used the laptop feature for a while as I have good success with the wireless transfer from the A1 to the iPad but it worked fine the last time I used it on both my mac laptop and desktop,



Apr 02, 2023 at 07:33 PM
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LBJ2 wrote:
Just in case...and I know you want to use an iPad, and the mobile app, but If a laptop is available, you can use a cable connection between the laptop and Sony A1 with the Imaging Edge Desktop app Remote feature. Faster transfer speed for sure. I haven't used the laptop feature for a while as I have good success with the wireless transfer from the A1 to the iPad but it worked fine the last time I used it on both my mac laptop and desktop,


Solid suggestion and if I had a lighter laptop, that definitely be an option. My main laptop is T5xx series Lenovo at about 4.5lbs. It's not only heavy but painful to edit on this thing. I have it in the budget to get something lighter with a better GPU this year.

The way I am thinking of setting this up in the car is to use a suction mount with the iPad clamp from Leofoto. I did a test run this am and it seem to be great. The person in the passenger seat can see all the images as they are shot. Since my folks are both much older I figure this gives them instant access to what I am seeing without me having to keep showing them the back LCD on the camera. I think it will make for a great experience



Apr 02, 2023 at 09:30 PM
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p.1 #14 · A1 direct connect via USB to iPad Pro (12.9" M2)?


We tether to a 13" iPad Pro for our X1DII and Fuji (soon to be Sony A1 or A7R). You can review in real time, use LV to compose, trigger the camera and set a style so the client can see it applied to images as they;re ingested. The XDR screen on the 13" is bloody brilliant. We find it a very fast solution that works brilliantly and is far more mobile and compact than using the tether case w/MBP we used for years and would never go back.

For the Hassy we use Phocus 2 and for the Fuji, C1. Running dual slots, we always have 3 copies of every shot: one on each card and one on the ipad. Our ipad rides in a Smallrig 'cage', three sides of which are NATO rails, so adding stand mounts, cable clamps or holders for a meter, drive, etc., is a toodle. Also makes a cool carry handle.

Once home we transfer the files to the computer and backup via USB-C.

The keys to use we've found:

1. Practice using the apps a lot prior to a shoot, no matter how much you know the desktop versions. Their interfaces are very different and the haptics (finger and/or Apple pen) take some getting used to.
2. USB-C cables - have many, TEST ALL under all use cases. Labels the ones that work as you desire because damn, if they all don't look alike ;>

Some cables work very very well and some that should, don't. Price doesn't seem to correlate. Never assume. Some are power only, some data only, few are both (reliably) and some makers don't mention if it's either/or. For instance we can charge the X1D2 from the iPad, but the moment we open Phocus to shoot, it switches to data only. For The iPad (and/or the apps used) appear to be fussy in that regard.

The basic Apple 'white' card readers, etc., all work perfectly. Aftermarket - test.

To the camera, Tether Tools cables work but are stiff. Nine Volt units work just as well and are more flexible. Shorter cables for drives, etc - Hassy ones perfect, others are buy & test.



Apr 03, 2023 at 07:49 AM





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