I would like to complement my Z6 with a second FX body.
At present I have three Z-mount lenses (14-30/4 S, 24-70/4 S & Voigtlander 50/2 Apo Lanthar) and several F-mount lenses, both MF (Zeiss ZF.2 135/2 Apo Sonnar, Zeiss ZF 100/2 Makro, Zeiss ZF.2 35/2, Zeiss ZF.2 21/2.8, Nikkor AI 50/1.4) and AF (AF-S ED 300/4E PF, AF ED Micro-Nikkor 200/4D, AF-S ED Micro-Nikkor 105/2.8G VR, AF-S ED 70-200/4G VR, TC-14 E II).
I don't need 45 Mpix. Therefore, I'm considering the cameras quoted in the subject line.
What I like of Z6/Z6 II: size & weight; EVF (useful with MF lenses) that - differently from LCD screen - doesn't force me to wear glasses. What I dislike of Z6/Z6 II: I have to use the FTZ with my F-mount lenses, thus adding size and weight; I cannot use AF with my 200 Micro-Nikkor.
What I'd like of D780: full compatibility with all my F-mount lenses; battery life; mirrorless-like use, with 273 AF points across the entire frame. What I dislike of D780: clustering of the 51 AF points in the frame center with OVF, mirrorless-like use with glasses, and not so comfortable in bright sunlight (I live in the "sun country" ); weight; no more pop-up flash working as commander (all Nikon DSLR cameras I've owned in the past, and even the Coolpix P7800, had this feature ...).
What would you do if you were in my shoes?
TIA.
Cheers,
Riccardo
P.S.: does the D780 sensor suffers from shadows banding issues?
Fpessolano wrote:
- If you plan to fully move to X
What do you mean with "X"? Z ? or FX? at present I have no DX gear.
Fpessolano wrote:
... get a Z6 and start selling some AFS lenses ...
Selling AF-S lenses to buy Z-mount lenses adds costs.
If I had to sell my F-mount lenses, then I could consider changing brand.
I couldn’t really help regarding the two bodies mentioned since I have no experiences of either. In my own shooting experience, DSLR and mirrorless bodies don’t mix well together. For me, I either go out with DSLR setup or a mirrorless setup. In several of my trips/outings, I carried both bodies (D850/Z7), I was very frustrated and nonproductive! Of course, that’s just me and others may feel differently.
If you currently don’t have a DSLR FF body, getting another Z6II and starting gradually switching some of your F mount lenses to Z mount might be a better choice. Regarding switching to a different system other than Nikon (I think that I know which one you are thinking about), I won’t recommend it. I have used several different mirrorless systems and I think that Nikon has the best implementation of EVF for photographers. I also think Z mount lenses have outstanding values.
ocean2059 wrote:
If you currently don’t have a DSLR FF body, getting another Z6II and starting gradually switching some of your F mount lenses to Z mount might be a better choice.
Yes, thanks.
Problem is that in the Z road map there is neither a lightweight 300/4 Z lens, nor a 200 macro. To not speak about 70-200/4, although the (Tamron) 70-180/2.8 could be an alternative.
YEs but the 300/4 F mount works very well on a Z body. At least the PF and it is one of those lenses i am have itching to get since the day i tested the Z7 at a launch Nikon event.
So if the issue is two lenses i would do a full switch, but it does cost money honestly to change lenses.
For me, the advantages of being able to manually focus through the viewfinder and being able to select a focus point anywhere in the frame outweigh the disadvantages of having to use the FTZ adapter and not being able to autofocus the older D lenses. I use a few classic lenses that I now have to manual focus, I still prefer the Z bodies. Now here’s hoping somebody eventually comes out with an FTZ adapter that includes a screw drive motor. As an additional bonus, if you can live with the FTZ, the prices for used F mount glass are really dropping as everyone else is transitioning to Z glass.
I have the D780 and like it (aside from the no vertical grip functionality).
If you don't mind bringing 2 cameras it appears the D780 can be attached with telephoto and the Z6 can take the standard and wide angle range.
The annoyance is aside from the 105 Micro it's already been awhile and no real updates for your other telephotos and odds are you'll be paying $$$$ if/when they do update.
I'm watching the Z6III and/or Z8 specs to see if they'll be a lower mp Z9 but the past 10 days of shooting reminded me that what I have is more than enough and I should keep using it to get my $'s worth.
I would only go for the DSLR if you enjoy OVF shooting (which I do, so I would*). If you plan on using live view a lot then I'd rather go for a 2nd mirrorless. In that case might make sense to wait a little to see what Nikon will announce in March - if only to see what it does to Z6ii prices.
*I'd lean towards the D850 over the D780 though, because of the better AF and OVF, not because of the 45mp.
Ripolini wrote:
Yes, thanks.
Problem is that in the Z road map there is neither a lightweight 300/4 Z lens, nor a 200 macro. To not speak about 70-200/4, although the (Tamron) 70-180/2.8 could be an alternative.
The 70-200mm f/2.8 with 1.4x teleconverter works very well and can replace the missing 300mm f/4.
If you still have Nikkor AF lenses that you would like to use with autofocus, you can only get a DSLR right now.
Personally I would for DSLR only consider getting a D850 or a used D4(s) or a used D500 at this point. Those are the absolute highlights of Nikon DSLR.
The D780 is IMHO inferior to its direct predecessor, the D750, and not a good bang for the buck. Unless you absolutely want to do video with it, but why would you want to do video with it ?
Sauseschritt wrote:
If you still have Nikkor AF lenses that you would like to use with autofocus, you can only get a DSLR right now.
Personally I would for DSLR only consider getting a D850 or a used D4(s) or a used D500 at this point. Those are the absolute highlights of Nikon DSLR.
The D780 is IMHO inferior to its direct predecessor, the D750, and not a good bang for the buck. Unless you absolutely want to do video with it, but why would you want to do video with it ?
I have both the D750 and the D780. The D780 makes quite a difference with regard to high ISO performance, autofocus, and - as you mentioned - video. A lot of improments that are difficult to pin down in specification data.
); weight; no more pop-up flash working as commander (all Nikon DSLR cameras I've owned in the past, and even the Coolpix P7800, had this feature ...).