has anybody experience adapting the Elmarit-M 28mm f/2.8 ASPH model 11606 to Sony? I am referring to the first ASPH version. Particularly, has anybody compared its performance with the Voigt ultron 28/f2
has anybody experience adapting the Elmarit-M 28mm f/2.8 ASPH model 11606 to Sony? I am referring to the first ASPH version. Particularly, has anybody compared its performance with the Voigt ultron 28/f2
Thanks all in advance !!!
I don't have any experience with the lens on a stock Sony body. But my understanding is that all of the Leica M 28mm f2.8 Asph lenses are horrible on a stock Sony. As to the CV 28mm f2 Ultron II VM, it performs best on an M body or an Ultra Thin Sensor modified Sony body. I have not used my CV 28mm Ultron II VM on a stock Sony body (only on my A7rII Kolari Vision UT sensor modified camera). Those on the boards that have tried, have suggested good performance with Ultron II, but you must stop down to at least f5.6 and preferably f8.
Both the Leica and Voigtlander 28mms have issues on stock Sony sensors. In fact, most M-mount lenses below 28mm seem to suffer from astigmatism and/or field curvature issues on Sony. The 7Artisans 28mm f1.4 performs well (there is a specific Sony/mirrorless version of that lens). It's a shame there are no small 28mm m-mount lenses that perform well on stock Sony sensors.
While the Ultron 28mm ASPH II isn't ideal on anything other than an M or similar, it's not terrible on other mirrorless cameras. I found it acceptable on the Z7II and Z6II Nikons... However, the Elmarit 28mm ASPH 11606 was horrible on the Z6II and Z7II.
I read very positively about the 7A 28/1.4. Still the point is that for me the M-mount glass makes sense because of its small size and weight signature. The loxia 25mm seems to be 26mm and it is native, contacts, T* coatings... I love zeiss glass, the point is that, the smaller the glass the more I use it and the loxia is around 400g
m43hero wrote:
Both the Leica and Voigtlander 28mms have issues on stock Sony sensors. In fact, most M-mount lenses below 28mm seem to suffer from astigmatism and/or field curvature issues on Sony. The 7Artisans 28mm f1.4 performs well (there is a specific Sony/mirrorless version of that lens). It's a shame there are no small 28mm m-mount lenses that perform well on stock Sony sensors.
hanay78 wrote:
I read very positively about the 7A 28/1.4. Still the point is that for me the M-mount glass makes sense because of its small size and weight signature. The loxia 25mm seems to be 26mm and it is native, contacts, T* coatings... I love zeiss glass, the point is that, the smaller the glass the more I use it and the loxia is around 400g
How well any of the RF 28s perform is going to be a matter of usage. A buddy of mine is thrilled with his ZM 28, but he only uses it close-to-mid distance for people and doesn't have a problem cropping away any distracting performance issues from the outer frame when necessary (he calls it a 28-40 digital zoom). If your attitude is similar, then I'm guessing you can make any of the little guys work for you.
If you want broader use of the lens or prefer getting your framing right in camera without the need to crop, then I'd stick with the Loxia (which objectively outperforms all of the little guys). If it helps, tell yourself it's the smallest, lightest lens in the range that plays exceptionally well with your camera.
I used the 11606 on my Nex-7 and needed to use the Flat-field plugin to correct color shift.
I used the V2 (11677) on the A7R2 and it worked pretty well. It had field curvature towards the outside of the frame, but no noticeable color shift. Here are photos with that combination - no flat-field processing or anything like that applied. It was quite nice. I liked it, but sold it to split that money into several Voigtlander lenses instead.
Being a longtime 28mm shooter the only manual M mount lens in that focal length that I found to perform well on the Sony A7 series cameras was the Minolta M Rocker 28mm f2.8. This is now a very old lens and hard to find a copy without other issues and in the end I sold mine when I bought the Leica Q
@Viramati Is Minolta M Rocker 28mm f2.8 the one with develops some white points in the glass? is the hexanon M similar?
@freaklikeme The ZM is also a bad performer... a pity. The 400g of the lox means for me only one lens in my bag for my walks...
@Taylor_Sherman thanks for the thread. I have had a look at it (11677). I would say the lens is sharper than the elmarit 28/2.8 III (Mandler 11804) that I have. Performance in the corners similar to the one I have. I am somehow surprised by the vignetting. In some of the photographs is very intense, in some others inexistent. You mentioned you sold the lens and bought Voigtlander glass: in your opinion, is it not worth the money?
Viramati wrote:
Being a longtime 28mm shooter the only manual M mount lens in that focal length that I found to perform well on the Sony A7 series cameras was the Minolta M Rocker 28mm f2.8. This is now a very old lens and hard to find a copy without other issues and in the end I sold mine when I bought the Leica Q
and the loxia is around 400g