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Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton Review

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p.8 #1 · p.8 #1 · Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton Review

Sample 10: At 5m

Voigtlander 35/1.5 (TOP) | Voigtlander 35/1.4 Classic (BOTTOM)

Dec 07, 2022 at 12:18 PM

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p.8 #2 · p.8 #2 · Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton Review

Sample 11: At 1m

Voigtlander 35/1.4 II Classic (TOP) | Voigtlander 35/1.5 (BOTTOM)

Dec 07, 2022 at 12:26 PM

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p.8 #3 · p.8 #3 · Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton Review

Based on Fred's comparisons I'm very happy with my choice to order this lens. The cost differential to the lux fle cannot be overstated.

Dec 07, 2022 at 03:05 PM

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p.8 #4 · p.8 #4 · Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton Review

35mm 1.5 is losing a lot in my eyes after those samples/comparison

I'm back to leaning toward CV 40/1.4 again.

Dec 07, 2022 at 05:00 PM

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p.8 #5 · p.8 #5 · Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton Review

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I feel that the new Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton is great for shooting portraits including environmental. It's not very high in micro-contrast which usually benefits this application.

It's a pleasure to use with the rangefinder.

Minimal processing using Adobe Standard profile.

LEICA M10-R Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton lens f/2.8 1/60s 500 ISO 0.0 EV

LEICA M10-R Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton lens f/1.4 1/1500s 100 ISO 0.0 EV

LEICA M10-R Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton lens f/1.2 1/60s 125 ISO 0.0 EV

LEICA M10-R Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton lens f/2.0 1/350s 100 ISO 0.0 EV

LEICA M10-R Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton lens f/1.7 1/90s 160 ISO 0.0 EV

LEICA M10-R Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton lens f/2.0 1/180s 100 ISO 0.0 EV

Dec 07, 2022 at 05:44 PM

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p.8 #6 · p.8 #6 · Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton Review

These look great Fred, hopefully I can take some similar portraits although it's really not my forte. It's what I am hoping to use the lens for. Compact, portable, good ergonomics and modern but not clinical rendering.
I'm quite sure that the 35ZM1.4 is going to crush it in raw performance but at the cost of double the physical length and no focus tab.

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I feel that the new Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton is great for shooting portraits including environmental. It's not very high in micro-contrast which usually benefits this application.

It's a pleasure to use with the rangefinder.

Dec 07, 2022 at 06:53 PM

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p.8 #7 · p.8 #7 · Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton Review

I've been wanting the LLL 35mm f/2 for a while now, but now I'm tempted to get this Voigtlander lens instead

Dec 08, 2022 at 01:09 AM

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p.8 #8 · p.8 #8 · Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton Review

randoman101 wrote:
I've been wanting the LLL 35mm f/2 for a while now, but now I'm tempted to get this Voigtlander lens instead

They are both very different. The LLL 35mm f/2 is a reproduction of the Summicron 8-elements from the 60s and has a very classical rendering. This lens is a corrected and more modern design.

Maybe you should buy both.

Dec 08, 2022 at 02:29 AM

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p.8 #9 · p.8 #9 · Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton Review

I was looking into the Voigtländer web. They have so many 35 in Leica mount:

-Nokton Asph 35 f/1.2 III, 332g
-Nokton 35 f/1.4 II SC, 189g
-Nokton 35 f/1.4 II MC, 189g
-Nokton Asph 35 f/1.4, 188g
-Ultron Asph 35 f/2, 170g
-Apo-Lanthar 35 f/2, 304g
-Color-Skopar 35 f/2.8, 134g

And this excluding the brass and aluminum versions. What about the renderings? Can anybody complete the table with rendering characteristics?

Dec 08, 2022 at 03:39 AM

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p.8 #10 · p.8 #10 · Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton Review

The sharpness vs FLE seems to put me off a bit since I did have two copies of FLE 2 and liked them a lot but had to return them due to RF focusing issues.

I was thinking of getting the VM as a stop gap until Leica sorts their issues with FLE 2, but I’m inclined to stick with my ZM Distagon for now.

Dec 08, 2022 at 04:03 AM

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p.8 #11 · p.8 #11 · Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton Review

normie610 wrote:
The sharpness vs FLE seems to put me off a bit since I did have two copies of FLE 2 and liked them a lot but had to return them due to RF focusing issues.

Another way of seing this is to answer the question: how many pictures shot wide-open, post-processed and printed will not be good enough because they were shot by the Voigt 35/1.5 instead of the Leica 35/1.4 FLE?

Because we you compare prints, you notice that the differences between lenses resolution and megapixels are not that big to say the least.

Dec 08, 2022 at 04:32 AM

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pmeheut wrote:
... you notice that the differences between lenses resolution and megapixels are not that big to say the least.

Agree; the difference in out-of-focus rendition is more easily discernible in prints though.

Dec 08, 2022 at 06:04 AM

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p.8 #13 · p.8 #13 · Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton Review

Ripolini wrote:
Agree; the difference in out-of-focus rendition is more easily discernible in prints though.

Indeed. This is why I preferred the Summarit to the FLE. And why I like the new Voigt.
I'm not saying that people cannot prefer the FLE or want the sharpest lens wide-open, just that they should know why as 100% pre-processing files are very interesting to test a lens but not really relevant in real life where we post our pictures on the Internet or print them in reasonable sizes (A3 to A2 for instance, what a good printer can do).

Dec 08, 2022 at 06:33 AM

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p.8 #14 · p.8 #14 · Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton Review

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Sunstar Rendering Vignetting and Flare

The Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton is capable of defined sunstars starting at f/4 and best from f/5.6 until f/11. However, it is still capable of decent sunstars even at f/2 or f/2.8. The sunstars will have 12 points since the lens is equipped with a 12-blade aperture mechanism (straight blades)

For this test, I selected 'lens detection' to "OFF", so we can have an idea of how Vignetting looks without any Leica profile attached to the DNG file.

It's worth mentioning that the Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton is multi-coated and did very well in regards to Ghosting and Veiling Flare even with the sun in the frame. This lens has strong flare resistance as I don't see any ghosting or loss in contrast even with the sun in the frame.

Here is a sequence from f/2 until f/11 in full stop increments:

f/1.5: No sunstar and strong vignetting.

f/2: Defined sunstar although not optimal

f/2.8: Defined sunstar although not optimal

f/4: Great sunstar

f/5.6: Optimal ...and flock of birds! :)

f/8: Optimal

f/11: Optimal

f/16: Sunstar shape degradation

Dec 08, 2022 at 09:26 AM

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p.8 #15 · p.8 #15 · Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton Review

The Leica 35mm f/1.4 Summilux FLE is only capable of defined sunstars starting at f/5.6 until f/11 and ghosting flare is very obvious.
As far as definition, it's sunstars are optimal at f/8-11 but the sun-rays are not even in length compared to the Voigtlander.

Here is a sequence at f/5.6, f/8 and f/11:
(Not defined at f/4 or wider and at f/16)

f/5.6

LEICA M10-R Summilux-M 1:1.4/35 ASPH. lens 35mm f/5.6 1/250s 100 ISO -1.7 EV

f/8

LEICA M10-R Summilux-M 1:1.4/35 ASPH. lens 35mm f/8.0 1/125s 100 ISO -1.7 EV

f/11

LEICA M10-R Summilux-M 1:1.4/35 ASPH. lens 35mm f/11.0 1/60s 100 ISO -1.7 EV

Dec 08, 2022 at 09:31 AM

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p.8 #16 · p.8 #16 · Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton Review

Stephen at CameraQuest just told me that he just got a new batch of the Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton "TYPE 1", so it's no longer in backorder.

https://shop.cameraquest.com/voigtlander-leica-mount-lenses/voigtlander-35mm-f1.5-black-asph-type-i/

Dec 08, 2022 at 09:48 AM

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p.8 #17 · p.8 #17 · Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton Review

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Sunstar Rendering Vignetting and Flare

The Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton is capable of defined sunstars starting at f/4 and best from f/5.6 until f/11. However, it is still capable of decent sunstars even at f/2 or f/2.8. The sunstars will have 10 points since the lens is equipped with a 10-blade aperture mechanism (straight blades)

This lens has a 12 blade aperture. So sunstars will have 12 points.

Dec 08, 2022 at 05:36 PM

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p.8 #18 · p.8 #18 · Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton Review

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Infinity performance on Leica M10-R compared to Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron

The Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton starting at f/2, performed very similarly to the Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron wide open in terms of resolution and contrast. The 35/2 Ultron is a high contrast lens with structured rendering that performs well from wide open, especially considering its size. It actually outperforms the 35/1.5 Nokton at mid-field while the latter does slightly better at the corners when shooting at wider apertures.
Both have similar level of vignetting at f/2 and the Voigtlander 35/2 Ultron's field of view is slightly wider compared to the 35/1.5 Nokton.

Here is the full image thumbnail showing the area demonstrated at 1:1 magnification.

Distance: Infinity
Camera: Leica M10-R
Focus: Center - Best of three @ 12.4x magnification
WB: Daylight
Lens centered using my decentering test. Both lenses were well centered.
Software: Lightroom with my default landscape sharpening. All other settings set to default

PS: Distortion is not corrected. All in-camera corrections turned 'off'.

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CENTER: Infinity performance on Leica M10-R compared to Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron