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Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton Review

  
 
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p.20 #1 · Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton Review


seancporter wrote:
have you guys found sufficient post-processing tools in either C1 or LR to deal with the axial CA on the 35/1.5?


I do not find axial CA to be an issue in real life. But C1 can handle it.
Here is a comparison: Leica M11, f/4, crop 200% of a corner.
Top is without CA removal, bottom with.




Dec 27, 2022 at 05:26 AM
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p.20 #2 · Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton Review


pmeheut wrote:
I do not find axial CA to be an issue in real life. But C1 can handle it.
Here is a comparison: Leica M11, f/4, crop 200% of a corner.
Top is without CA removal, bottom with.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52589132549_cf453844cb_o.jpg


That is not axial CA. That is lateral CA.



Dec 27, 2022 at 01:05 PM
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p.20 #3 · Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton Review


Desmolicious wrote:
So many reviews on Amazon mention the same thing I just experienced. So I'm definitely not a one-off. If I keep the lens - the 28mm (not sure yet) - I'll be getting the round version.
I was using the lens w hood on an M. It is hard to see that the angle is off just looking at it, but through the VF it is very noticeable.


I would go with the Voigtlander LH-4N hood. It's not that pricey and you will be very happy with the build.
The LH-12 is another option and looks nice on the lens but it's more $$ and there is more frameline blockage.



Dec 27, 2022 at 01:11 PM
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p.20 #4 · Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton Review


Steve Spencer wrote:
That is not axial CA. That is lateral CA.


Indeed. Lost in translation.



Dec 27, 2022 at 01:35 PM
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p.20 #5 · Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton Review


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I would go with the Voigtlander LH-4N hood. It's not that pricey and you will be very happy with the build.
The LH-12 is another option and looks nice on the lens but it's more $$ and there is more frameline blockage.


I'm going to wait until I get the film I just shot developed. I need to be blown away by the results because I'm just not jiving with the physical design of the lens.



Dec 27, 2022 at 02:07 PM
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p.20 #6 · Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton Review


Regarding some mentions, in this discussion, of the Zeiss Distagon ZM: Big, yes, but, yes, indeed “WOW!”

I am thinking that the Distagon’s size is, generally, worth the trouble. Part of this equation is that my right hand is not aging very gracefully, compared to my left hand, so, I am tending to hold things in my left hand, and finding the Distagon’s size makes it nicely “grip-able.” If I have to scramble up or down a slope, or run, the Distagon served as a nice handle, with the quite secure hood serving as a “hand-stop,” to minimize the chance that my fingers will slip from the front of the lens.

Who needs a thumbs-up, or an add-on grip, when I can grip the Distagon, and run the camera body “slick.”

Plus, in this wintery weather, when I am more likely to be wearing gloves, the focusing and aperture rings, on the Distagon, are nicely spaced, relatively far apart, compared to many other M-mount lenses.

The Distagon is not truly perfectly-corrected, optically, if we peep really closely, but, usually seems to be “close enough to perfect, for me.”

A reason to use a relatively compact lens, while out and about, is to minimize the distance that the lens protrudes from one’s body, as the camera hangs by its strap. Well, even a relatively compact lens protrudes a considerable distance, if a hood is affixed, and I favor hoods, to minimize wear and tear to the lens, itself. The Distagon ZM size allows an alternative position to be relatively stable: Point the lens downward, and rest the camera’s baseplate against my body. This seems nicely stable, most of the time, especially in my favored position, camera off-center to the left, with the strap diagonal, over my right shoulder.

To be clear, this is what works for me, and is not what anyone else “should” do.




Dec 28, 2022 at 07:18 AM
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p.20 #7 · Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton Review


Has anyone tried this rectangular hood originally for the 35/2.5 Color Skopar II? Being a 35mm and also with a 39mm filter size the opening should be enough, right? Pretty compact profile and I personally have a soft spot for rectangular hoods (I think it's a subliminar fetish with the X-Pan from my early film days).

https://www.shapeways.com/product/URQ6M8GSG/cv-35mm-f2-5-ii-ultra-compact-hood?optionId=62830821&li=marketplace

I've used analoguerobot's compact vented hood for the 35/40 1.4 Noktons and they are pretty great, do wonders and the matte finish is fab. I sold my 40/1.4 but kept the hood just in case I end up getting a 35/1.4 II in the future (though happily a user of a 40/1.2 Nokton nowadays, my only gripe with it is the weight, but hard to justify a switch to the 35/1.5 I guess...).

They cover the silver ring rather well, besides the lens protection and obvious flare prevention. Not as low cost as the 39>46 step up ring but perhaps an interesting solution. Not a fan of the CV chrome lens rings as well, I wonder if they do it to push us into buying their metal bayonet hoods or if it has a technical reason. On the 40/1.2 the vented hood pretty much blocks the chrome ring when seen from the front. Shooting through glass windows becomes less of a worry.



Dec 28, 2022 at 09:31 AM
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p.20 #8 · Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton Review


Without a cutout it will probably add to some finder blockage. Haoge has a square version with a cutout. Incidentally the 35/40 Nokton 1.4 has a 43mm filter thread.



Dec 28, 2022 at 10:17 AM
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p.20 #9 · Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton Review


thrice wrote:
Funny I did an informal comparison with my ZM yesterday and came away really impressed with the Voigtlander. Yes the ZM is very slightly sharper, has very slightly smoother bokeh and slightly less loCA but it's really subtle on my M10-R and absolutely not worth the size difference. How thick is the overall sensor stack on your modded Sony?



Dont have a Sony, I use m10r and film m



Dec 28, 2022 at 10:42 AM
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p.20 #10 · Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton Review


marcelography wrote:
Has anyone tried this rectangular hood originally for the 35/2.5 Color Skopar II? Being a 35mm and also with a 39mm filter size the opening should be enough, right? Pretty compact profile and I personally have a soft spot for rectangular hoods (I think it's a subliminar fetish with the X-Pan from my early film days).

https://www.shapeways.com/product/URQ6M8GSG/cv-35mm-f2-5-ii-ultra-compact-hood?optionId=62830821&li=marketplace

I've used analoguerobot's compact vented hood for the 35/40 1.4 Noktons and they are pretty great, do wonders and the matte finish is fab. I sold my 40/1.4 but kept the hood just in case I end up getting a 35/1.4 II in the future
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I’ve used the Shapeways hoods before when I had the CV 40 1.4 lenses. The problem with them is the existence of Haoge, that is if Haoge has a hood for your lens. Shapeways are nice but definitely look and feel like a cottage industry product. The Haoge hoods look and feel like CV made them. Shapeways are friction fit - which loosens up as they wear - while Haoge use a metal bayonet and internal spring mount. On top of that they are cheaper.
But.. Shapeways may make a hood for a lens that Haoge does not.



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p.20 #11 · Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton Review


Apart from the dedicated solutions, the Heliopan 39mm short hood fits my Ultrons Asph 28 and 35. It does not intrude too much in the viewfinder, does not vignette even with a slim BW protection filter and takes very little space in the bag.


Dec 28, 2022 at 12:14 PM
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p.20 #12 · Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton Review


Thury wrote:
Apart from the dedicated solutions, the Heliopan 39mm short hood fits my Ultrons Asph 28 and 35

If you can find one as it is listed as discontinued almost everywhere.




Dec 28, 2022 at 01:41 PM
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p.20 #13 · Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton Review


On the 35/2 Ultron I use a Leica 12550 hood that I had for the 50mm Elmar-M. A little bit longer than the Heliopan but it also doesn't vignette, but I don't know if it would work on the 28/2 or 35/1.5. If you have one or can get hold of one readily it might be worth it to try, but it's too expensive to go out and buy from Leica.

Besides on the 35/2 Ultron and 50/2.8 Elmar, I also use one (I found a used one for very little) on the 90 Macro-Elmar, as it makes that package a lot handier and provides decent protection.

The Haoge hood is decently made, fairly inexpensive and functional, but it suffers like the OEM hoods from being way bigger than desirable or necessary.



Dec 30, 2022 at 01:13 AM
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p.20 #14 · Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton Review


Guys, please share more photos and thoughts on this lens, we would love to see more of it here


Jan 02, 2023 at 03:52 PM
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p.20 #15 · Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton Review


phinix wrote:
Guys, please share more photos and thoughts on this lens, we would love to see more of it here


Agreed. Feels like the initial excitement has worn off. Maybe in part because it wasn't the optical powerhouse many of us hoped it might be? But it should still result in good images in capable hands.



Jan 02, 2023 at 08:28 PM
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p.20 #16 · Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton Review


I liked but didn’t love the lens.

People are going to differ, but the images coming from the ZM and the Lux have appreciably more pop, contrast and depth to me, and you can feel and see it. You can obviously get great photos with them all. Interestingly, I do wonder how many will prefer this over the 35/1.7–beyond ergo, not really a clear cut winner I think.

I ended up swapping mine out for a 35 Lux FLE last week. The images have more juice, but I am still not settled on a single fast M 35mm option. I think overall I’d settle for:

- ZM 35/1.4 best technical IQ with tons of pop, gorgeous color and spacial separation. Love the images. Reasonable price.

- 35 Lux is like the ZM with its high microcontrast and resolution WO across most the frame with some pleasant personality (structured draw) and Leica colors and better ergo/size. Horrible price, fantastic images.

- CV 35/2, smaller, similar IQ at f2 (but no midzone dip) but with a different structured (busier) draw with more personality. Great daily lens IMO. So cheap now used and great ergo. Colors/contrast are good, but not ZM 35/1.4/Lux good.

- CV 35/1.7 quite sharp, great flare resistance, smooth rendering, never loved the ergo or colors.

- CV 35/1.5 smooth centrally and in most situations, good color/contrast, perfect ergo, wonderful size and stellar flare resistance and MFD, LoCal noticeable, midzone softer, high optical vignetting, not seeing the highest microcontrast. Probably the best option for the majority.

- CV 35/1.2iii - would rather use a ZM 35/1.4, 35 Lux, CV 35/2 Ultron or CV 35/1.5 unless I really needed 1.2

- The Leica 35 APO is silly price to me, and I’d prefer the ZM 35/1.4 to the CV 35/2 APO given the APO’s size

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Jan 03, 2023 at 11:50 AM
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p.20 #17 · Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton Review


rscheffler wrote:
Agreed. Feels like the initial excitement has worn off. Maybe in part because it wasn't the optical powerhouse many of us hoped it might be? But it should still result in good images in capable hands.


I agree. I find myself continuing to like images, especially black & white, that I see posted, rendered by the Nokton f/1.4 35mm II, which had my attention before I was aware that there would be a 35/1.5. The idea of using the Nokton 35/1.4 II on a Monochrom is especially appealing. For a really compact 35mm lens, with less distortion than the Nokton 35/1.4 II, for urban walking-about, the Ultron now has my attention. For a “perfect” 35mm lens, perhaps for images with significant architecture, the APO VM still has my attention.

So, while I like the idea of adding a 35/1.5, it could not rise to the top of my “shopping list,” being third or fourth priority among 35mm VM lenses. I do tend to accumulate 35mm lenses, so, do maintain some interest in the 35/1.5 VM.

Then, there are the Leica-brand lenses, that are considerations, especially a shooter-grade Summilux Version II, and perhaps, the re-issued version of Steel Rim Summilux.



Jan 03, 2023 at 12:08 PM
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p.20 #18 · Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton Review


My 2 cents worth.

The 35 1.5 is a well corrected, compact, general purpose, fast, and value-for-money lens.

In each comparison area there would always be a better lens - better bokeh, sharper, more compact, less CA etc.

For me, I just wanted one lens at 35 to sit between my 28 Cron and 50 Lux and this was it.



Jan 04, 2023 at 04:47 AM
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p.20 #19 · Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton Review


rramesh wrote:
My 2 cents worth.

The 35 1.5 is a well corrected, compact, general purpose, fast, and value-for-money lens.

In each comparison area there would always be a better lens - better bokeh, sharper, more compact, less CA etc.

For me, I just wanted one lens at 35 to sit between my 28 Cron and 50 Lux and this was it.


I like your summary - if you have that lens, please share some photos with us.



Jan 04, 2023 at 08:12 AM
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p.20 #20 · Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton Review


Some quick samples here. No cropping, no sharpening, but with some noise reduction and tone adjustment applied. Taken on M10-P.

Please feel free to download and edit at will.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1pyplAgq0Z7Ofz-x8NpOpNuq3acQAsRMJ?usp=sharing



Jan 04, 2023 at 10:00 AM
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