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Archive 2022 · Laowa 12-24/5.6

  
 
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p.1 #1 · Laowa 12-24/5.6


Looks like we're getting close to the official announcement.

https://photorumors.com/2022/06/26/venus-optics-laowa-12-24mm-f-5-6-lens-to-be-announced-soon/?fbclid=IwAR14892WT_j-PvQIiO-uKe-3zKoto7mbUWy3ARP3xW8sZEn1BApBkmZhsA8

Anyone else excited about this one?



Jun 27, 2022 at 12:06 AM
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p.1 #2 · Laowa 12-24/5.6


Bastian from phillipreeve.net already had it for testing several weeks ago. He even posted some photos on Facebook.


Jun 27, 2022 at 12:10 AM
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p.1 #3 · Laowa 12-24/5.6


hasenbein wrote:
Bastian from phillipreeve.net already had it for testing several weeks ago. He even posted some photos on Facebook.


I'm anxiously awaiting the full review.



Jun 27, 2022 at 12:17 AM
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p.1 #4 · Laowa 12-24/5.6


I am always curious to see what Laowa does next as they are an innovative brand but I was not impressed with their 10-18 zoom.
Hopefully there will be magic with their new 12-24.



Jun 27, 2022 at 12:50 AM
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p.1 #5 · Laowa 12-24/5.6


freaklikeme wrote:
I'm anxiously awaiting the full review.

Review will be published on release day



The release unfortunately had to be postponed because of the Covid lockdows in China I was told.

Optical qualities of the lens are good. Way better than the 10-18mm.


12mm f/5.6
(higher resolution version here)


12mm f/8.0



18mm f/8.0



18mm f/5.6


In the Sony world the Sony FE 12-24mm 4.0G will be a fierce competitor though.



Jun 27, 2022 at 01:07 AM
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p.1 #6 · Laowa 12-24/5.6


Thanks Bastian for sharing these photos and inputs and your future review !
This lens has interesting characteristics for sure (relatively compact and light and great WA range).
I was curious to see how it would compare with the 10-18 zoom which has more extreme design characteristics and which review on this forum didn't turn as great as we could hope.
One important design feature for me is whether or not it will take screw-in filters and, from the pictures, it looks like there's no filter thread on the lens (unless I've missed something).
I recall that, for the 10-18, you have to use a special adapter which would fit over the hood and accept a proprietary Laowa filter holder.
Is this indeed the case here as well for the 12-24 ? Maybe you cannot answer yet as you are still under NDA at that time, which I understand.



Jun 27, 2022 at 01:23 AM
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p.1 #7 · Laowa 12-24/5.6


nicephore wrote:
Thanks Bastian for sharing these photos and inputs and your future review !
This lens has interesting characteristics for sure (relatively compact and light and great WA range).
I was curious to see how it would compare with the 10-18 zoom which has more extreme design characteristics and which review on this forum didn't turn as great as we could hope.
One important design feature for me is whether or not it will take screw-in filters and, from the pictures, it looks like there's no filter thread on the lens (unless I've missed something).
I recall that, for the 10-18, you have to
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There is a tiny lens hood / ring included which gives the lens a standard 77mm screw in filter thread:



It is so small, I actually wonder why it is removable.



Jun 27, 2022 at 02:03 AM
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p.1 #8 · Laowa 12-24/5.6


Thanks Bastian for the answer !


Jun 27, 2022 at 02:44 AM
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p.1 #9 · Laowa 12-24/5.6


BastianK wrote:
In the Sony world the Sony FE 12-24mm 4.0G will be a fierce competitor though.


No doubt, but, if you prefer manual focus and don't need f/4, this is looking like a solid option. Thanks for sharing what you can.



Jun 27, 2022 at 03:39 AM
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p.1 #10 · Laowa 12-24/5.6


laowa so good


Jun 27, 2022 at 03:42 AM
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p.1 #11 · Laowa 12-24/5.6


BastianK wrote:
In the Sony world the Sony FE 12-24mm 4.0G will be a fierce competitor though.


At first I thought you were talking about the new 16-35 f4 PZ G lens, but then I looked at the numbers again. From my understanding, the 12-24 G has gotten a bit long in the tooth optically when considering more recent releases as alternatives. Has the Laowa not improved on the optics there?

As a dedicated landscape lens, I'd still assume the Laowa to be superior even if the optics were equal due to the sunstars, form factor, and ability to use standard filters. I'd honestly be a bit surprised if the optics hadn't improved, however.



Jun 27, 2022 at 04:13 AM
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p.1 #12 · Laowa 12-24/5.6


If you don't need F4 nor AF and need standard filters than sure, Laowa seems great, otherwise with a price (i would asume) close to the G 12-24/F4 it may be a hard sell for many.


Jun 27, 2022 at 05:13 AM
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p.1 #13 · Laowa 12-24/5.6


@BastianK Eagerly awaiting the review.

Is the release date public or you guys have to wait for the go ahead from Laowa?



Jun 27, 2022 at 05:15 AM
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p.1 #14 · Laowa 12-24/5.6


rhawidantas wrote:
@BastianK@ Eagerly awaiting the review.

Is the release date public or you guys have to wait for the go ahead from Laowa?

Beginning of July is the latest information I have, it might be subject to change though.

A few times in the past there have been notable changes between the pre production samples I got compared to the final production models
- like 1.0 m MFD instead of 0.7 m or a price differing by up to $100 compared to what I have been told -
so I wait with hitting the publish button until I have seen the product page or something like that.



Jun 27, 2022 at 05:53 AM
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p.1 #15 · Laowa 12-24/5.6


BastianK wrote:
Beginning of July is the latest information I have, it might be subject to change though.

A few times in the past there have been notable changes between the pre production samples I got compared to the final production models
- like 1.0 m MFD instead of 0.7 m or a price differing by up to $100 compared to what I have been told -
so I wait with hitting the publish button until I have seen the product page or something like that.


Thanks for the information. Nice little peak behind the curtains.



Jun 27, 2022 at 06:20 AM
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p.1 #16 · Laowa 12-24/5.6


BastianK wrote:
There is a tiny lens hood / ring included which gives the lens a standard 77mm screw in filter thread:

https://phillipreeve.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Laowa_12-24mm_5.6_filter-ring.jpg

It is so small, I actually wonder why it is removable.


Along with size, the ability to use 77mm filters is a big strength for this ultra wide. I'm glad to hear it performs well Bastian.



Jun 27, 2022 at 09:15 AM
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p.1 #17 · Laowa 12-24/5.6


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Along with size, the ability to use 77mm filters is a big strength for this ultra wide. I'm glad to hear it performs well Bastian.


Yes, being able to use screw in filters is huge. Interesting to see if the filter causes any vignetting at the wide end.



Jun 27, 2022 at 10:01 AM
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p.1 #18 · Laowa 12-24/5.6


Something to look at . Im a big 12mm fan

Your only going to get 1 filter on this unless you did a step up ring to maybe 77 or larger and get two on there. But honestly I would never put a CPL on a 12mm looks way to fake and I have tried it on other 12mm. ND filter would be nice for sure



Jun 27, 2022 at 10:27 AM
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p.1 #19 · Laowa 12-24/5.6


Bastian,
Do you know if there will be a M-mount version?
Depending on how it performs against the light, it could be a great landscape lens. Very compact, takes filters at 12-24mm and has nice sunstars. I'm hoping that at f/8, it will be optimal through the range.



Jun 27, 2022 at 12:52 PM
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p.1 #20 · Laowa 12-24/5.6


Fred Miranda wrote:
Bastian,
Do you know if there will be a M-mount version?

I have been told yes.
I initially asked for it, but only E-mount was available.

At some point I was even thinking of comparing it to the Leica 16-18-21mm 4.0,
but I had to return that one as it was a decentered dud...



Jun 27, 2022 at 12:54 PM
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