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Wow, you do go on about nothing.
gdanmitchell wrote:
The little exchange I was involved with earlier in this thread was the last straw for me with that character. I think my point about the GFX 100s not being a "competitor" with the flagship Sony, Canon, Nikon cameras designed for things like photojournalism, sports, and the like made a legitimate point.
To the extent that there is a direct (or near) competition between those cameras and a Fujifilm product, I think that (as someone else suggested earlier) the XH2/XH2s cameras are intended to fulfill that role. They focus on high speed operation, beefier build, fast AF, deep and fast burst, and so on.
(The question of whether or not the XH2-series bodies are ultimately successful in that role is a different one, and it will take time for the answer to emerge.)
As to the question of forum manners, I'll discuss the facts or the relative perceptions of claims with almost anyone. It is a discussion forum, so I expect that folks are here to, um, discuss. I know that not everyone is going to agree, but the ideal is for folks to take on the reasons for the different perspectives.
So, in thi case, the other party could have responded and made the case for the claim that the GFX 100s is a direct competitor with those other cameras. Instead, we got a non-sequitur about marketing, hence my reply about non-sequiturs. After one more of those digressions, I turned that person off and added him to my "hide" list.
Back to the XH2-series bodies, I have a kind of mixed view at this point, though I'm also clear that we won't know how this plays out for a while.
On one hand, these cameras look like largely well-thought-out and solid tools, with a variety of useful improvements. They appear to be targeted at a class of users more like those who might otherwise use those flagship full-frame cameras from Canon, Sony, and Nikon. Given that users of those cameras can already, in most cases, do quite well with lower pixel-count sensors, the Fujifilm option should actually work quite well. So, on their own technical merits, it looks like Fujifilm has produced a pair of solid products.
On the other hand, I wonder if Fujifilm itself is in a position to make this succeed. There's a lot behind that question, so I'll just summarize briefly here.
Even an excellent APS-C camera of this type is going to have a hard time building a market beyond current Fujifilm users. I'm not sure that what it offers will be enough to draw the target photographers from those other systems.
There are some lens issues that Fujifilm hasn't currently resolved. Among the users of this type of camera there are a lot of folks who rely on big aperture primes, especially the sports and wildlife photographers. But Fujifilm does not, at this point, have the lenses that hey would want. (There are some that will work in some cases, including the new 150-600, but that only hits a part of this market.)
There's another concern — I'm betting that there's going to be a certain amount of "cannibalism" within the Fujifilm market, where some percentage of the XH2-series buyers are not buying a future XT5 — so the market doesn't get bigger, it just is spread among more models.
So, to summarize, my concern is that these apparently well-designed and well-built cameras may have a hard time achieving market success.
We'll see......Show more →
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