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Voigtlander 50mm f/1 Nokton Review

  
 
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p.34 #1 · p.34 #1 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1 Nokton Review


Here is Fred's comparison CV 50mm 1.0 to Sony 50mm 1.2 gm at 0.9m:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1741370/15#15878794

Per lenstip, Sony 50mm 1.2 matches CV 50mm f2 in the center wide open at 70 lppm, lags in the corners.

highdesertmesa wrote:
I think he got a marginal copy of the lens or Voigtlander didn't fully optimize the design for the Canon sensor stack. At f/1 on the M11, it's extremely sharp in the center at close distance.





Dec 03, 2023 at 05:58 PM
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p.34 #2 · p.34 #2 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1 Nokton Review


xmas snaps with the f/1:

JHF03435 by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Mom & Cyndi by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Jenny by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Leica M5, Voigtlander 50mm f/1 Nokton VM, Kodak T-Max P3200 @ 800, Xtol 1:1



Jan 06, 2024 at 07:08 PM
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p.34 #3 · p.34 #3 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1 Nokton Review


Leica M7, Fomapan 400 @ 800, Xtol 1:1

Tex by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Tex by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Leica M5, Fomapan 400 @ 200 Xtol 1:1:

Oregon Symphony by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Barrels by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Selfie by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Jenny by Jim Fischer, on Flickr



Jan 06, 2024 at 07:12 PM
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p.34 #4 · p.34 #4 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1 Nokton Review


_jim_ wrote:
Leica M7, Fomapan 400 @ 800, Xtol 1:1

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53409383731_2b79b34f58_b.jpgTex by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53408461927_5cc8d46f04_b.jpgTex by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Leica M5, Fomapan 400 @ 200 Xtol 1:1:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53410302333_3bfa7148db_b.jpgOregon Symphony by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53410480734_7611983c21_b.jpgBarrels by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53410399198_8dc9d2c853_b.jpgSelfie by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53410625089_15ab1852d7_b.jpgJenny by Jim Fischer, on Flickr


Beautiful B&W samples Jim! I wonder which one you prefer shooting with? CV 50/1 or LLL 50/1.2.



Jan 13, 2024 at 11:17 AM
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p.34 #5 · p.34 #5 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1 Nokton Review


Fred Miranda wrote:
Beautiful B&W samples Jim! I wonder which one you prefer shooting with? CV 50/1 or LLL 50/1.2.


Good questionÖIíve had the Voigtlander for longer. I feel more comfortable using it. The ergonomics are mostly very nice (appropriate focus throw, good fit n finish), but it is large. The LLL is quite a bit smaller, but itís heavier and the focus throw is very long (the build quality is also phenomenal).

Image-quality-wise the Voigtlander is sharper and more contrasty with way less geometric distortion (as youíd expect from a more complex lens designed in the last five years). The LLL is more vintage looking, but the bokeh is very smooth and the rendering is quite unique. Iím just waiting for the weather to get better (itís 16 degrees F outside) to be able to use it more.

For me, the Voigtlander is certainly going to be more useful/dependable in more situations. The LLL is more of a fun challenge.




Jan 13, 2024 at 05:18 PM
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p.34 #6 · p.34 #6 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1 Nokton Review


One of several things that make this one interesting is that it's rather spare by modern standards. Cosina say the 'primary element' the lens is built from is the new GA (asph) front element. The lens is really a showcase for this new process.

It's a humble 9/7 design with a second (rear-most) asph element, and no APD glass apart from the front element the design rests on. Cosina generally rely on APD glass formulations more heavily than the asph processing that they include sparingly by today's standards, but not here.

'Fabricating the aspherical front element is a more challenging process than producing a general mold aspherical lens, due to the high melting point of the high-refraction glass, which cannot be used in the mold manufacturing method. By grinding and polishing the aspherical front element it is possible to simplify the lens configuration, while ensuring high performance even when shooting with a wide-open aperture.'

Some other (half stop slower) 50s are: Sony's 50/1.2 mentioned above is a 14/10 design with no fewer than six asph surfaces; Canon's RF 50/1.2 is a 15/9 design; Nikon's 50/1.2 at 17/15 has three asph and two special elements.

At the other end of things, Leica's reimagined 50/1.2 comes from a 'slightly soft' 8/5 design with two asph elements. The CV 50/1 has carved out quite a niche for itself already, as a true aficionado lens. More please.

The front element might be expensive to replace.



Jan 13, 2024 at 08:29 PM
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xmas eve with an LED light panel (interesting interaction between it's light, the not-quite-panchromatic sensitivity of Fomapan 400 and people with with mostly light colored eyes).

Leica M5, Voigltander 50mm f/1 Nokton VM, Fomapan 400 @ 200, Xtol 1:1

Selfie by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Jenny by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Patti & Jenny by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Patti by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Ben & Katie by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Jenny by Jim Fischer, on Flickr



Jan 17, 2024 at 02:02 PM
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p.34 #8 · p.34 #8 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1 Nokton Review


_jim_ wrote:
xmas eve with an LED light panel (interesting interaction between it's light, the not-quite-panchromatic sensitivity of Fomapan 400 and people with with mostly light colored eyes).

Leica M5, Voigltander 50mm f/1 Nokton VM, Fomapan 400 @ 200, Xtol 1:1

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53470114248_c8a05b78e7_b.jpgSelfie by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53470396385_6aba0a985b_b.jpgJenny by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53469086622_fca2b48b39_b.jpgPatti & Jenny by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53470445015_8822385a61_b.jpgPatti by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53470479265_433a706c4f_b.jpgBen & Katie by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53469138247_a5f336d771_b.jpgJenny by Jim Fischer, on Flickr


Those are great Jim. And don't think I didn't notice your sweet outfit.



Jan 18, 2024 at 01:42 PM
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Desmolicious wrote:
Those are great Jim. And don't think I didn't notice your sweet outfit.



Hahaha. Lol. Thanks. It's good to have festive sartorial choices.



Jan 18, 2024 at 02:01 PM
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p.34 #10 · p.34 #10 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1 Nokton Review


I've been following this thread and just came back from a trip where I did a bit of shooting with my CV 40 1.2 on the SL2-S. I definitely want a fast 50 now and am still torn between the 1.0 and 1.2. The cost difference isn't a factor. I will be using it for standard through environmental portraiture with 1/2, 3/4 and full body shots but I also need to be able to use it on a helicoid adapter to reduce the minimum focus distance (some of you know I do a lot of food photography). I should probably post this on the comparo thread as well.


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saxguy wrote:
I've been following this thread and just came back from a trip where I did a bit of shooting with my CV 40 1.2 on the SL2-S. I definitely want a fast 50 now and am still torn between the 1.0 and 1.2. The cost difference isn't a factor. I will be using it for standard through environmental portraiture with 1/2, 3/4 and full body shots but I also need to be able to use it on a helicoid adapter to reduce the minimum focus distance (some of you know I do a lot of food photography). I should probably
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I would definitely recommend the f/1.2.
The 1.0 is too heavy for a helicoid adapter and the field curvature is rather annoying for full body shots.



Jan 25, 2024 at 04:04 PM
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p.34 #12 · p.34 #12 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1 Nokton Review


BastianK wrote:
I would definitely recommend the f/1.2.
The 1.0 is too heavy for a helicoid adapter and the field curvature is rather annoying for full body shots.


Thanks. Does the 50 1.2 appear to isolate the subject better than the 1.0 in general? When I look at images it seems that maybe the falloff is more gradual in the 1.0 but perhaps Iím missing something.




Jan 25, 2024 at 11:56 PM
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p.34 #13 · p.34 #13 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1 Nokton Review


BastianK wrote:
Wouldn't say it isolates better, the 1.2 simply draws less attention to the corners at longer distances because they don't look as wonky as is often the case with the 1.0.

There are plenty of comparisons here:
https://phillipreeve.net/blog/comparison-super-fast-50mm-m-mount-lenses/


Great comparison!!



Feb 05, 2024 at 12:58 PM
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p.34 #14 · p.34 #14 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1 Nokton Review


I must be a weirdo...because I like the wonky corners.

Jenny by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Lan Su Garden by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Lan Su Garden by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Lan Su Garden by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Jenny by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Lan Su Garden by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Lan Su Garden by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Leica M5, Voigtlander 50mm f/1 Nokton VM, Cinestill 800T (last image was the first frame on the roll with the classic from-the-factory Cinestill light leaks).



Feb 28, 2024 at 10:29 AM
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Jenny by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Leica M5, Voigtlander 50mm f/1 Nokton VM, Cinestill 800T



Feb 28, 2024 at 10:43 AM
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p.34 #16 · p.34 #16 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1 Nokton Review


_jim_ wrote:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53555759312_74c98de958_b.jpgJenny by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Leica M5, Voigtlander 50mm f/1 Nokton VM, Cinestill 800T


The Cinestill 800T has that pleasant diffusion effect. Perfect for portraits!



Mar 06, 2024 at 11:59 AM
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p.34 #17 · p.34 #17 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1 Nokton Review


Fred Miranda wrote:
The Cinestill 800T has that pleasant diffusion effect. Perfect for portraits!


Thanks, Fred! I really like 800T. I usually expose it between 400-500 and am happy with the results.



Mar 06, 2024 at 12:59 PM
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p.34 #18 · p.34 #18 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1 Nokton Review


A fun and interesting deep dive on the 50mm f/1.

Nice to see Google Translate does such a good job with Japanese that this is all basically legible:

https://lensreview.xyz/cosina-nokton-50mm-f1-0-aspherical/



Mar 28, 2024 at 10:44 AM
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p.34 #19 · p.34 #19 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1 Nokton Review


Steel Bridge by Jim Fischer, on Flickr
The resolution at infinity at full aperture is incredible...leaves other speed lens in the dust.

Cherry Blossoms by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Cherry Blossoms by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Cherry Blossoms by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Jenny by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

All: Leica M5, Voigtlander 50mm f/1 Nokton VM, Ilford HP5+, Xtol 1:1



Mar 28, 2024 at 10:50 AM
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_jim_ wrote:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53555759312_74c98de958_b.jpgJenny by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Leica M5, Voigtlander 50mm f/1 Nokton VM, Cinestill 800T


That is so good Jim! Almost makes me want to give 800T another try, but my last rolls of it had too many light leaks.



Mar 28, 2024 at 12:57 PM
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